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Who according to you is the best Couple ever in This series?

Ran-Shinichi
95
37%
Heiji-Kazuha
17
7%
Satou-Takagi
39
15%
Eri-Kogorou
9
4%
Makoto-Sonoko
1
0%
Yusaku-Yukiko
9
4%
Ai-Conan
78
30%
Ai-Akai
9
4%
 
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I vote Ai X Conan...oh yeah.  :P
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Nyarl wrote:
Mizukithepanda wrote: AixConan ftw. Shinichi and Ran are just so BORING.

And just out of curiosity: why is AixAkai up there? I know that GinxSherry has a bit of a fandom following, but I don't think I've come across something with Akai and Sherry/Ai...

Meh. At least it's different. I like non-canon couples. With the exception of TakagixSatou, I find most of the standard couples to be extraordinarily static and droll.
Why do so many AixConan fans see AixConan as an isolated "non canon" pair instead of one side of a developing love triangle? Nothing wrong with being disinterested completely or rooting for the other woman, but the ShinRan side of the relationship is the way it is primarily because Haibara intervened after the relationship (and Ran) had progressed to the point that she was willing to accept Shin'chi's ruse and play along rather than confront him again (and Ran had been quietly suspicious ever since volume 14, so it wasn't just a sudden reset button used for a suddenly repeated plot point). It's still developing, too, since {volume 42+ spoilers}
Spoiler:
Ran went from depressed to... uh... anticipating after getting Shin'ichi's voice number, Haibara started to respect Ran and sees her as a sister, and after hearing it directly from Haibara, Heiji no longer appears to buy the reasons for keeping Ran ignorant, after he already changed his mind once and tried to help fool Ran.
"Boring"? Matter of taste. "Slow to progress"? Like every other bit of continuity in this series, of course. "Static"? Nope!
Yeah, as a "love triangle" that happens in a lot of animes. But the main character falling in love with another person besides the supposed original love interest is rare in animes. Childhood friends and love trangles are very canon in almost any anime with romance. Ran and Shinchi's romance isn't getting anywhere. Its so freakin bland. It is static. All the episodes with her is him coming back to normal form, he leaves, she cries, then another episode the same thing happens with them again. It is very static. You would expect a detective story to be unexpected...Ran X Shinchi so expected....Conan X Ai unexpected. People say Ai's an interference to the romance, but Ran is worse...she's an interference to the whole detective story. Its like she doesn't even fit there.
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Nyarl wrote:
Mizukithepanda wrote: AixConan ftw. Shinichi and Ran are just so BORING.

And just out of curiosity: why is AixAkai up there? I know that GinxSherry has a bit of a fandom following, but I don't think I've come across something with Akai and Sherry/Ai...

Meh. At least it's different. I like non-canon couples. With the exception of TakagixSatou, I find most of the standard couples to be extraordinarily static and droll.
Why do so many AixConan fans see AixConan as an isolated "non canon" pair instead of one side of a developing love triangle? Nothing wrong with being disinterested completely or rooting for the other woman, but the ShinRan side of the relationship is the way it is primarily because Haibara intervened after the relationship (and Ran) had progressed to the point that she was willing to accept Shin'chi's ruse and play along rather than confront him again (and Ran had been quietly suspicious ever since volume 14, so it wasn't just a sudden reset button used for a suddenly repeated plot point). It's still developing, too, since {volume 42+ spoilers}
Spoiler:
Ran went from depressed to... uh... anticipating after getting Shin'ichi's voice number, Haibara started to respect Ran and sees her as a sister, and after hearing it directly from Haibara, Heiji no longer appears to buy the reasons for keeping Ran ignorant, after he already changed his mind once and tried to help fool Ran.
"Boring"? Matter of taste. "Slow to progress"? Like every other bit of continuity in this series, of course. "Static"? Nope!
I just find it boring because I see it in too many animes and expected it already. When I already know whats going to happen, I don't see the need to get into it. I don't know how and when Shinichi will confess, but I know he will EVENTUALLY. Whereas, Conan/Ai is unexpected, interesting, and and interesting to see it developed. Ran/Shinichi is progressing, but not in a way I didn't expect it to as most of those relationships do.

I guess also because Ran isn't as important as Haibara is to the story. She's just a love interest. And a detective's daughter, which doesn't require her involvement in BO or solving cases. Haibara was in the BO, is the main reason they came back around to Beika, and Conan's only link to the BO (He wouldn't have even known Okiya was suspicious or Vermouth or Gin's car or any of that). She also made the drug that shrunk him, which is why he was pursuing the org in the first place. She is also a part of the Detective Boys so she's plays a hand in the mysteries...well, is EXPECTED to least ways.

GinxSherry sounds really interesting. I always think Gin has this weird obsession with Sherry... ;D :-X
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still.looking wrote: heiji and kazuha rock. ^^ and people call me biased because my life is like that, just add that it ends in a way that kills me. hope that doesn't happen to them..

conanai is very nice, but i think that's impossible. she'll probably be paired up with someone else.. how about hakuba? but his personality kinda contrasts her, don't you think?
Why do people think Ai x Conan is impossible? Its not that impossible. They have some hidden connections. I made a fanfiction of Ran and Shinchi...guess what happened? He grew up, he confesses, leaves, she cries.

I made a fanfiction of Ai....he thought over his love but tried to deny it but he couldn't stop thinking about that girl....his feelings are eating at him....and suppose he does love her....does she love him back?

Look how interesting Ai x Conan's relationship would be in real episodes. No strain to stretch their relationship...it just kinda moves on its own.

Ran x Shinchi....look at how bland and predictable and stupid their relationship is. By Goshyo's episodes you can tell that not only is he struggling to remember to put Ran in the series, he's struggling to think of a way to keep their soggy relationship together. I bet he's thinking.."dang, what could I possibly do next...what..." See? their relationship doesn't flow with the story. Its like detective stories then all of a sudden here comes Ran and its no longer detective conan cause you already know whats going to happen. If Goshyo knew their were so many Ai X Conan fans, he would probably reconsider and it would probably be easier for him to transition a smooth interesting, yet exciting relationship without straining over episodes wondering "how else could I ever make Ran X Shinchi interesting???' IMO, drop Ran altogether and see how more exciting and interesting it becomes. All you have to do is transfer love scenes between Conan X Ai and you have made a love story. Thats all Ran ever was....the love interest..to tell you the truth. If Ran wasn't in there to begin with it would've been the most interesting Detective story filled with twists and turns. Sadly, Ran kinda ruined that feeling. When she's there I forget its called Detective Conan...and isn't that the point of the show? Her episodes just seem to be there but really don't need to be there to finish the story.  :-\
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soratothamax wrote:
Nyarl wrote:
Mizukithepanda wrote: AixConan ftw. Shinichi and Ran are just so BORING.

And just out of curiosity: why is AixAkai up there? I know that GinxSherry has a bit of a fandom following, but I don't think I've come across something with Akai and Sherry/Ai...

Meh. At least it's different. I like non-canon couples. With the exception of TakagixSatou, I find most of the standard couples to be extraordinarily static and droll.
Why do so many AixConan fans see AixConan as an isolated "non canon" pair instead of one side of a developing love triangle? Nothing wrong with being disinterested completely or rooting for the other woman, but the ShinRan side of the relationship is the way it is primarily because Haibara intervened after the relationship (and Ran) had progressed to the point that she was willing to accept Shin'chi's ruse and play along rather than confront him again (and Ran had been quietly suspicious ever since volume 14, so it wasn't just a sudden reset button used for a suddenly repeated plot point). It's still developing, too, since {volume 42+ spoilers}
Spoiler:
Ran went from depressed to... uh... anticipating after getting Shin'ichi's voice number, Haibara started to respect Ran and sees her as a sister, and after hearing it directly from Haibara, Heiji no longer appears to buy the reasons for keeping Ran ignorant, after he already changed his mind once and tried to help fool Ran.
"Boring"? Matter of taste. "Slow to progress"? Like every other bit of continuity in this series, of course. "Static"? Nope!
I just find it boring because I see it in too many animes and expected it already. When I already know whats going to happen, I don't see the need to get into it. I don't know how and when Shinichi will confess, but I know he will EVENTUALLY. Whereas, Conan/Ai is unexpected, interesting, and and interesting to see it developed. Ran/Shinichi is progressing, but not in a way I didn't expect it to as most of those relationships do.

I guess also because Ran isn't as important as Haibara is to the story. She's just a love interest. And a detective's daughter, which doesn't require her involvement in BO or solving cases. Haibara was in the BO, is the main reason they came back around to Beika, and Conan's only link to the BO (He wouldn't have even known Okiya was suspicious or Vermouth or Gin's car or any of that). She also made the drug that shrunk him, which is why he was pursuing the org in the first place. She is also a part of the Detective Boys so she's plays a hand in the mysteries...well, is EXPECTED to least ways.

GinxSherry sounds really interesting. I always think Gin has this weird obsession with Sherry... ;D :-X
Shoot the fact that a creator can be much more creative then a canon romance as bland as Ran x Shinchi. Ai x Shinchi you can do so many things with that romance. But you have to be a unique enough writer to think beyond the typical japanese canons. He just slapped something in there to make it seem like there's at least a romance. Now that he's gone so long with that crappy romance, when an interesting one is in view he can't go any further with it anyway otherwise his ideas will be piling up and detective conan is long as it is. ooohhh...the irony....plus those Ran episodes would just be taking up space if they aren't already, so he probably figures he should just finish just as boring and repetitive as he started.
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Where's Heiji and Conan? This should be on the list!!
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Soragirl6 wrote:
still.looking wrote: heiji and kazuha rock. ^^ and people call me biased because my life is like that, just add that it ends in a way that kills me. hope that doesn't happen to them..

conanai is very nice, but i think that's impossible. she'll probably be paired up with someone else.. how about hakuba? but his personality kinda contrasts her, don't you think?
Why do people think Ai x Conan is impossible? Its not that impossible. They have some hidden connections. I made a fanfiction of Ran and Shinchi...guess what happened? He grew up, he confesses, leaves, she cries.

I made a fanfiction of Ai....he thought over his love but tried to deny it but he couldn't stop thinking about that girl....his feelings are eating at him....and suppose he does love her....does she love him back?

Look how interesting Ai x Conan's relationship would be in real episodes. No strain to stretch their relationship...it just kinda moves on its own.

Ran x Shinchi....look at how bland and predictable and stupid their relationship is. By Goshyo's episodes you can tell that not only is he struggling to remember to put Ran in the series, he's struggling to think of a way to keep their soggy relationship together. I bet he's thinking.."dang, what could I possibly do next...what..." See? their relationship doesn't flow with the story. Its like detective stories then all of a sudden here comes Ran and its no longer detective conan cause you already know whats going to happen. If Goshyo knew their were so many Ai X Conan fans, he would probably reconsider and it would probably be easier for him to transition a smooth interesting, yet exciting relationship without straining over episodes wondering "how else could I ever make Ran X Shinchi interesting???' IMO, drop Ran altogether and see how more exciting and interesting it becomes. All you have to do is transfer love scenes between Conan X Ai and you have made a love story. Thats all Ran ever was....the love interest..to tell you the truth. If Ran wasn't in there to begin with it would've been the most interesting Detective story filled with twists and turns. Sadly, Ran kinda ruined that feeling. When she's there I forget its called Detective Conan...and isn't that the point of the show? Her episodes just seem to be there but really don't need to be there to finish the story.  :-\
Its REALLY impossible and you know that. This story began with ShinxRan and it will end up with ShinxRan.
Which ending do you want?
Shinichi:" Sorry Ran, you waited for me so long, but I love now the girl, that you have saved her of Vermouth."
Shiho: "yes Ran sorry for you, go and marry Araide or Eisuke, Shinichi and I felt in love,so sorry for you that you saved me from vermouth haahaaaahaahaa"

It would be so STUPID. There is just one option for them to be together. Ran has to die! Or she will not forgive shinichi (which I never would think). AokoxKaito, HeijixKazuha, ShinichixRan, these couples will be together. They have to be together! You will see, Ran will be so important at the end! Ran is one of the main characters in this serie, why? Because of loving Shinichi? No! There has to be a reason why Gosho made this charakter. Vermouth likes Ran and she doesnt want her to be injured. And she is the favourite of the BO Boss. Thats why Ran will be very important at the end, you all will see ;)
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Actually Ran doesn't have to die for them to be together if they made sex cloning wasn't illegal.
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Shinran wrote: Actually Ran doesn't have to die for them to be together if they made sex cloning wasn't illegal.
But I cant imagine the scene where shinichi says Ran that he doesnt love her and that the time she waited was a waste..
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ShinRan36 wrote:
Shinran wrote: Actually Ran doesn't have to die for them to be together if they made sex cloning wasn't illegal.
But I cant imagine the scene where shinichi says Ran that he doesnt love her and that the time she waited was a waste..
Well, Haibara could just clone Conan and then input fake!memories. She could ask Kaito, maybe orz
So then nobody has to say anything.
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Shinran wrote:
ShinRan36 wrote:
Shinran wrote: Actually Ran doesn't have to die for them to be together if they made sex cloning wasn't illegal.
But I cant imagine the scene where shinichi says Ran that he doesnt love her and that the time she waited was a waste..
Well, Haibara could just clone Conan and then input fake!memories. She could ask Kaito, maybe orz
So then nobody has to say anything.
But isnt it a bit . I dont know :D:D
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ShinRan36 wrote:
Shinran wrote:
ShinRan36 wrote:
Shinran wrote: Actually Ran doesn't have to die for them to be together if they made sex cloning wasn't illegal.
But I cant imagine the scene where shinichi says Ran that he doesnt love her and that the time she waited was a waste..
Well, Haibara could just clone Conan and then input fake!memories. She could ask Kaito, maybe orz
So then nobody has to say anything.
But isnt it a bit . I dont know :D:D
the word's 'desperate'  :D
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Rellik wrote:
ShinRan36 wrote:
Shinran wrote:
ShinRan36 wrote:
Shinran wrote: Actually Ran doesn't have to die for them to be together if they made sex cloning wasn't illegal.
But I cant imagine the scene where shinichi says Ran that he doesnt love her and that the time she waited was a waste..
Well, Haibara could just clone Conan and then input fake!memories. She could ask Kaito, maybe orz
So then nobody has to say anything.
But isnt it a bit . I dont know :D:D
the word's 'desperate'  :D
Yeah, you said it xDDD
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ShinRan36 wrote:
Rellik wrote:
ShinRan36 wrote:
Shinran wrote:
ShinRan36 wrote:
Shinran wrote: Actually Ran doesn't have to die for them to be together if they made sex cloning wasn't illegal.
But I cant imagine the scene where shinichi says Ran that he doesnt love her and that the time she waited was a waste..
Well, Haibara could just clone Conan and then input fake!memories. She could ask Kaito, maybe orz
So then nobody has to say anything.
But isnt it a bit . I dont know :D:D
the word's 'desperate'  :D
Yeah, you said it xDDD
Maybe so, but it's possible for a happy ending. =/

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ShinRan36 wrote:
Soragirl6 wrote:
still.looking wrote: heiji and kazuha rock. ^^ and people call me biased because my life is like that, just add that it ends in a way that kills me. hope that doesn't happen to them..

conanai is very nice, but i think that's impossible. she'll probably be paired up with someone else.. how about hakuba? but his personality kinda contrasts her, don't you think?
Why do people think Ai x Conan is impossible? Its not that impossible. They have some hidden connections. I made a fanfiction of Ran and Shinchi...guess what happened? He grew up, he confesses, leaves, she cries.

I made a fanfiction of Ai....he thought over his love but tried to deny it but he couldn't stop thinking about that girl....his feelings are eating at him....and suppose he does love her....does she love him back?

Look how interesting Ai x Conan's relationship would be in real episodes. No strain to stretch their relationship...it just kinda moves on its own.

Ran x Shinchi....look at how bland and predictable and stupid their relationship is. By Goshyo's episodes you can tell that not only is he struggling to remember to put Ran in the series, he's struggling to think of a way to keep their soggy relationship together. I bet he's thinking.."dang, what could I possibly do next...what..." See? their relationship doesn't flow with the story. Its like detective stories then all of a sudden here comes Ran and its no longer detective conan cause you already know whats going to happen. If Goshyo knew their were so many Ai X Conan fans, he would probably reconsider and it would probably be easier for him to transition a smooth interesting, yet exciting relationship without straining over episodes wondering "how else could I ever make Ran X Shinchi interesting???' IMO, drop Ran altogether and see how more exciting and interesting it becomes. All you have to do is transfer love scenes between Conan X Ai and you have made a love story. Thats all Ran ever was....the love interest..to tell you the truth. If Ran wasn't in there to begin with it would've been the most interesting Detective story filled with twists and turns. Sadly, Ran kinda ruined that feeling. When she's there I forget its called Detective Conan...and isn't that the point of the show? Her episodes just seem to be there but really don't need to be there to finish the story.  :-\
Its REALLY impossible and you know that. This story began with ShinxRan and it will end up with ShinxRan.
Which ending do you want?
Shinichi:" Sorry Ran, you waited for me so long, but I love now the girl, that you have saved her of Vermouth."
Shiho: "yes Ran sorry for you, go and marry Araide or Eisuke, Shinichi and I felt in love,so sorry for you that you saved me from vermouth haahaaaahaahaa"

It would be so STUPID. There is just one option for them to be together. Ran has to die! Or she will not forgive shinichi (which I never would think). AokoxKaito, HeijixKazuha, ShinichixRan, these couples will be together. They have to be together! You will see, Ran will be so important at the end! Ran is one of the main characters in this serie, why? Because of loving Shinichi? No! There has to be a reason why Gosho made this charakter. Vermouth likes Ran and she doesnt want her to be injured. And she is the favourite of the BO Boss. Thats why Ran will be very important at the end, you all will see ;)
So in other words she'll be important because of who??? Not herself. If anything she'll be an interference for Shinchi getting the drug. No one really cares about Ran that much in the BO. She's not an asset to them. Vermouth is not the head of the BO and Gin and Vodka don't care. Vermouth could like anyone...so what? She's only there for one reason and that is as obvious as Ran and Shinchi getting together....to be the love interest. Just like all the other childhood friends in Goshyo's work. If she wasn't Mouri's daughter it would've been more simply put earlier in the series. Ran might not do anything except get kidnapped. Or Shinchi might confess before he takes down the organization. Who knows. Goshyo did give her one purpose only...to give Shinchi a girlfriend and call it a romance. Ran couldn't help otherwise. She's never going to be that important. There is definitely no hints saying she will be important IMO. Instead it tells me that once she finds out the truth she'll probably rooting for Shinchi from home. It does show that she's going to find out about Shinchi soon, which is to be EXPECTED. Probably calling the police or something, but thats about it. She's not going to do anything that no one else could do without her. Can I make it more obvious? She's THE LOVER. THATS IT.

And so what if he tells her he loves some one else? That would be an unexpected DETECTIVE ENDING because that can happen in a GOOD story. So what if she won't forgive him? She chose to wait for him. Eventually their marriage is going to flop so he might as well end it. He can explain it to Ran and run after Ai as she's about to leave for a different country. ^^  Its like we all know Goshyo doesn't write love stories, but come on! This is one of the worst romances I've seen in an anime. And it takes away from the goodness of DC. Ran is a character flop. She's one of the main characters by the skin of her teeth, mainly because, hey can't stress enough, she's the love interest! Canon romances aggravate me especially TYPICAL CHILDHOOD FRIENDS OR HE SAVED MY LIFE AS A CHILD. Has anybody else noticed that very few animes have variety in their romances? Whatever happened to the chance encounter? Whatever happened to a relationship that starts as a seed and finally blooms as a flower? That would be ConanxAi if they were romantically paired. (RanxShinchi would be a bush that just managed to grow some poison berries.) I'd rather not see a romance then a raggedy one.  :-\ :( :'(
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