Ai + Conan

[AICHAN]

Just thought of throwing my two cents in, too:

I think the reason some of the people dislike the Akai/Ai pairing is that a huge factor comes from Akemi. Sure, Akemi's dead. We're fine with that. What I'll see happening first though is Shiho not engaging herself romantically right away with Akai due to respect for her sister. Plus, there'd all be that angst and drama they'd have to face before they can fully trust one another. Also, this one's nitpicky though, I can't imagine Shiho going with a person that reminds her a lot of Conan. She's so similar with Reyna from HoH right now. >.>

From my point of view it would be nice to see that,a bit of drama and angst isn't bad...it would be more original and touching than the whole childhood lovers thing.Also if Akemi asked akai to take care of her sister there is a possibility for ai to forgive him and trust him,and maybe appreciate him when she'll see he's a good guy after all.
I guess I like mature and complicated relationship so any interactions between these two would be nice for me.

[soul_dreamer]

@char13happy: It's the one reason, I don't see Shiho and Akai together, because of this angst regarding Akemi. Besides, I doubt that Shiho would want to date a man, who dated her dead sister. I see them as friends or FBI partners, though.

I don't see the point of her staying in Ai's form for few more years and then return to being Shiho. I think, she should return to being Shiho, right after, she creates permanent antidote. She still can interact with DB and tell them the truth about herself, when they're older.

@Mario2000: Even if Agasa would create 'machine that ''wash memories''' it still would be running away. If Jodie and Sato can live with tragic past, then why Shiho can't.

@AICHAN: I get what you mean, I also like the angst and drama in the relationship, but like I said I just can't see them as a couple, but I still hope to see more interactions between them, not just Ai/Okiya, but also Ai/Shiho and Akai.

[Silverbullet96]

I'm not saying they had romantic moments,not at all,and I'm not saying either that they will become a couple,I just said I like their interactions since they seems to have a past in the BO together.And Ai isn't cold,she has changed a lot so for me it's not an horrible possibility contrary to what you are impliying.She became close to Okiya only because he reminds her of Dai,so I guess she kinda appreciated him back then.But as I said it doesn't mean they're going to be together in the end.It's just nice to get someone who know her as Shiho and can actually talk about her sister.I do think their interaction would be nice to see^^
I just imagine Ai with a more mature guy than Conan,it would be good for her.

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By cold I didn't mean heartless, I meant her demeanor, I really really don't think Akai and Ai would match up well at all, I really don't. And I'm pretty sure I'm right. It would be a horrible pairing. IMO Conan has just the right amount of coolness, maturity, innocence and immaturity for Haibara. That's why AiCon have such great chemistry. It's not that easy as saying "They were BO members, that's why they should have great interaction"

[AICHAN]

Aicon chemestry grew up with time...at the begining they weren't really close,it was hard for me to imagine them as a couple...but after they share some tragic moment which made them appreciate each other.
We could see the same with Ai/Okiya,we can't judge something we did't see yet.As okiya he's very nice and caring to Ai which could be good for her.that's a begining..
I said since they had a past together it would be interesting because he knew her as Shiho,and she seems to know him pretty well too.Someone from Ai's past is always welcomed no matter what you say,their interactions will be much more interesting than the one with the DB for example...

[Shadow]

I think that, at the end, Ai will choose to stay in childhood state for a little more years, because:
1) she regrets she couldn't have a normal life like everybody;
2) she regrets she couldn't build her own friendships;
3) she really cares about Ayumi's friendship, and it will be inevitable to loose it upon returning to the former herself

[kkuuddoo]

Even if I decided to stay as a child, the deageing seems to be against growing, which also means that the detective boys will grow while she will stay as A child.

Staying a child is not a good choice in my opinion, because I prefer her a an adult and I want her to live her life as one, as for staying a child will not make her look at the world any different then how she looks at it in her current state.

[soul_dreamer]

1. She can have a normal like Shiho, too, e.g. joining High School, where, Shinichi and Ran are going.
2. She can build new friendships with Ran, Sera, Akai, Jodie etc and besides, she's already friend with Shinichi.
3. Shiho still can be friends with Ayumi. Truth, they will see each other less, the same goes to Shinichi; but Shiho could say to Ayumi that she's Ai's cousin and they may still interact. DB may accompany Shiho and Shinichi during the cases and when they're older then Shinichi and Shiho may reveal them the truth.

I believe that Ai is considering to stay in her child form, but I hope that if she does, then Shinichi or someone else would convince her otherwise.

[Mario2000]

With all respect towards your opinions, I still don't get it why should Ai necessarily "face her destiny" and avoid "running from it". She has suffered enough already, what's the point of torturing herself further? We already know she isn't a coward, there is no need to "prove" it in that way just for the sake of it. It's one thing if it's HER decision to return adult, but if SHE decides to stay as a child, why do you hope somebody convinces her otherwise?
I don't know, maybe I just got to used to the character to accept her substitution by some "Shiho" person. She would return adult anyway with time passing.
And besides, if she stays as a child, won't she live 10 years longer? Not a bad thing in my opinion.

[soul_dreamer]

How returning to Shiho would make her torture further? Is being Shiho would remind her more of her dead family and BO more than when she will be Ai? I don't think so, because those bad memories still would be with her and she would not run away from them, even in Ai's form. I want her to return to being Shiho, because that who she is, Miyano Shiho and she can still be happy as her, going to High School with Shinichi and Ran, being friends with them, joining interpol/FBI, etc. Staying as Ai is an easy option and for me is still running away. Of course, if she stays as a child, I will accept it, though I won't be happy with her decision. I think that Shinichi would try to convince her to return to being Shiho or maybe I just hope for such scene

[Mario2000]

How returning to Shiho would make her torture further? Is being Shiho would remind her more of her dead family and BO more than when she will be Ai? I don't think so, because those bad memories still would be with her and she would not run away from them, even in Ai's form. I want her to return to being Shiho, because that who she is, Miyano Shiho and she can still be happy as her, going to High School with Shinichi and Ran, being friends with them, joining interpol/FBI, etc. Staying as Ai is an easy option and for me is still running away. Of course, if she stays as a child, I will accept it, though I won't be happy with her decision. I think that Shinichi would try to convince her to return to being Shiho or maybe I just hope for such scene

I just assumed that it would be easier for her to forget the pain by assuming a different identity, convincing herself being a different person etc. On the other hand, I agree that going to high school with Shinichi, Ran and others and joining law enforcement is an idea with great potential. The problem is that, while Shinichi for example often turns back to his teenage form, we barely know anything about adult Shiho. Substituting Ai with her just like that, without getting to know her Shiho form better, would be a little like replacing Genta with a big goon with gorilla-sized belly and muscles and placing him as a bouncer in some bar or club.

[soul_dreamer]

Lol about Genta's comments. Ai and Shiho are the same person, which means that Shiho will have Ai's personality traits, the difference will be that Shiho wouldn't need to pretend to be a child and perhaps she would become more open, considering that there won't be any BO threat.

[char13happy]

The reason I want Shiho to gradually slip away from the DB than taking the antidote right away is 1) I don't see her lying to them about their identity and 2) She'd want to maybe cherish the last few moments they're going to see her as an "equal" in their group because, let's face it, even if they have their respective abilities they all see each other as a team. The moment the two turn themselves back in, the children would see them as adults and they'd give Conan the authority they'd been holding back for a while now. The dynamic would be incredibly different.

As for number 1, it's more psychology. Compared to adults, psyches of children, even ones who stumble upon corpses very frequently, are very delicate. Gradually slipping away from them would be way better than hitting all of the truth (which could potentially break their psyche if they're not careful).

With regards to Ai/Okiya, I agree with soul_dreamer. I don't think she'd date someone her dead sister fell head over heels with. And I don't see how Akai would date Shiho either when he's feelings over Akemi haven't seem to subside.

You guys can ignore this next part.

This one's nitpicky, too, but I just recently realized why I don't like the Ai/Okiya relationship: It's because I like Akai/Jodie's dynamic more. For someone who's pretty uptight and cool (and maybe a bit of a loner), pairing him up with someone who's pretty loose, cheerful but still professional on their jobs would balance out the emotions. Their chemistry reminds me a lot of those couples that are more on the comedic side than the romantic side of the spectrum. When I think of Ai/Akai along those lines, I don't know. I see more of them as having a familial relationship than romantic, even though it's very similar to AiCon.

[AICHAN]

Lol @char13happy:I think the exact opposite concerning the last part,for me they are more acting like partner and I don't see anything really exciting or special between them,sometimes I just feel like he treats her like he does with Camel.I could reply you by MP if you want me to elaborate more,I'm just tired to explain my point today.
I guess it's just a matter of tastes,as much as I love these two together I know that won't happen,but I'm still waiting for their interactions in the future.

[kiyeujay]

Lol @char13happy:I think the exact opposite concerning the last part,for me they are more acting like partner and I don't see anything really exciting or special between them,sometimes I just feel like he treats her like he does with Camel.I could reply you by MP if you want me to elaborate more,I'm just tired to explain my point today.
I guess it's just a matter of tastes,as much as I love these two together I know that won't happen,but I'm still waiting for their interactions in the future.

This is exactly that I want to say . I follow it for a long time but until now I register because some comments are weird in the topic about only AICON , we love couple AICON though we know it won't happen. And this topic I want to follow moments between Ai and Con , and I don't like ai and akai. If you want to ship AiAkai , I think you create a new topic .
I hope new chap 899, we can enjoy AICON, i miss them very much.

[AICHAN]

sorry but I was replying to someone specifically,that's why I said to reply by MP in orser to not trouble people.and we were talking about Ai's future too so it's not that much off topic.
As for Aicon,well I don't have any hopes to see a great scene between them in the future,so I guess I won't come by this thread anymore.