Ai + Conan

[mangaluva]

Conan always got that "STFU" face when things get serious and he's with Haibara.  If I remember, he actually tells her to STFU in episode 177ish arc.

What's STFU ?

Shut The F*** Up.

[hiten22]

Conan always got that "STFU" face when things get serious and he's with Haibara.  If I remember, he actually tells her to STFU in episode 177ish arc.

What's STFU ?

Shut The F*** Up.

OOOH I SEE.... @_@

[ProfParanoia]

Conan always got that "STFU" face when things get serious and he's with Haibara.  If I remember, he actually tells her to STFU in episode 177ish arc.

176-178, he may have but I forget the context.

[ranger]

Conan always got that "STFU" face when things get serious and he's with Haibara.  If I remember, he actually tells her to STFU in episode 177ish arc.

176-178, he may have but I forget the context.

They were in the car, and Ai was like "ITS DANGEROUS KUDO-KUN" and then Conan was like "STFU!"

[ProfParanoia]

Conan always got that "STFU" face when things get serious and he's with Haibara.  If I remember, he actually tells her to STFU in episode 177ish arc.

176-178, he may have but I forget the context.

They were in the car, and Ai was like "ITS DANGEROUS KUDO-KUN" and then Conan was like "STFU!"

Okay, so he was salty then.

[CodeName:900hrs]

i got to rewatch that lol  with some cheddah

[hiten22]

i got to rewatch that lol  with some cheddah

Yeah.. It is better watch the old 1 than the new 1... (Except the coming new series  ..)

[CodeName:900hrs]

yeah the old soundtrack made it good and the older episodes tend to show move conan and ai moments  time to read some aicon!!!!!!!!!!!

[Atraos]

Hey, I hope no one minds me resurrecting this thread (well it's not that old) but I wanted to chip into the discussion too.

Well, as stated on the last pages, it seems Gosho completely dropped the idea of a love triangle and haibaras feelings altogether after the Belmont incident (345) , but what I don't get is, why did he create the current "peak" of the aiCon relationship (335, yukiko tells him about haibara's feeling), that effectively established the possibility of the pairing one volume before that? It goes from 100 to 0 in one volume? It's not like Gosho woke up one day and told himself: "I think I don't like love triangles. I think I'll just ignore the matter altogether and send a central character with a huge following to the side lines".

One of the few explanations for that sudden change, that I could think of would be that this triangle would of course push for a resolution or atleast heavy development and we all have seen in recent years, that gosho likes to stretch thibgs quite a bit.

This brings me to my second point. Do you think it could be possible, that Gosho is saving Aicon for the final stages of DC? It should definetely spice things up a bit, and I think DC has gone rather dull and could need some spice. Yet the dynamics of Ai+Conan is tied to the fate of the BO and the fate of ShinRan so maybe Gosho is really saving it?(if he even intends to bring DC a proper conclusion, sadly I slowly begin to doubt that)

My 2 cents

[sonoci]

@Atraos: Actually, that's a good point. Why was that "I think she likes you" moment right before the whole thing was dropped? ._. I never realized it was so close before.

Maybe there was a HUUUUUUUUGE surge of AiCon fans and art and such after that moment that Gosho decided it was too much. I'd like to think he's saving it though, as there have been a few AiCon teases here and there lately (though it could just be me )

However...it seems that Ai is quite resolute in abandoning her feelings for Conan. Maybe in the future it'll be more "You mean a lot to me" development rather than "I love you" development (if that makes any sense)


Anyway, I personally would like to see more interaction between these two. They're always entertaining

[ProfParanoia]

As pofa and I were discussing last night, there was this whole thing after 347 where Conan and Ai went into a phase of randomly thinking about what the other one plans to do (in the discussion of Tori prefecture and Conan's ptsd of Vermouth), like they were gonna have some big talk about the current state of things. But then, Gosho just has a scene where Ai is like, "hey, stop whatever you're doing" then it's completely and abruptly dropped like nothing happened.

[sonoci]

As pofa and I were discussing last night, there was this whole thing after 347 where Conan and Ai went into a phase of randomly thinking about what the other one plans to do (in the discussion of Tori prefecture and Conan's ptsd of Vermouth), like they were gonna have some big talk about the current state of things. But then, Gosho just has a scene where Ai is like, "hey, stop whatever you're doing" then it's completely and abruptly dropped like nothing happened.

I seem to recall that D: I skipped around a lot while watching, though, so I probably didn't see that the issue was just dropped :V

That...really sucks. :I It would have been a good sort of development for the two of them. Maybe they would actually trust each other a bit instead of "Nyahaha, I'll just do this behind his/her back and it'll all be good :V Hopefully he/she doesn't do something to ruin the plan. Something that - pft, I dunno - could be prevented if I just told him/her what was going on"

Srsly. Ai and Conan seem like two where a bond of trust could easily show up, but they're constantly lying to/withholding things from each other :I

[ProfParanoia]

Srsly. Ai and Conan seem like two where a bond of trust could easily show up, but they're constantly lying to/withholding things from each other :I

And, more often that not, their plans seem like they're trying to get at the other. Conan's plan in 345 was be be straight up taken by Vermouth disguised as Ai... and his goal was for Verm to call her boss before blowing Conan's brains out and realizing it's not Ai and going to blow hers out.

Even if Verm didn't notice that wasn't Ai, does he think "blow myself up with a bus" isn't gonna take this personally?

[Atraos]

Damn my browser who choose to randomly crash in the middle of the post I was typing I'll try to remember as much as possible:

What I wanted to say was that even if Gosho choose to abandon AiConan, he could have done so with much more dignity than his apparent Ran=Akemi cop out. After the Belmont incident everything was set for the AiCon dynamique to escalate. This could have also brought a resolution in form of Ai abandoning her feelings gradually after a confrontation with conan. Yet such changes have to be DEVELOPED rather than be decided. A hobby writer myself, I believe that nearly every character change can be conveyed in a beleviable and satisfying fashion with time and commitment to portraying an actual development.

What I'm trying to get at is, that the whole AiCon thing deserves a good resolution, even if it ends the pairing. I hope our master of mystery and twists has still something good in store for that in the end.

The AiCon business aside, I think Ai also needs to regain her status as a main character, that she lost at about the same time, atleast because of her relevance to the plot. Yet there seems not to be much plot to be relevant to, does it?

I begin to realize that the one thing I want most is actual development and an epic and worthy conclusion to before it's too late and DC get's stuck in the status quo forever...

[Atraos]

@ProfParanoia I do think that his plan was within reasonable limits of his established character. I think Ai sums this up quite nicely in 270 , making his actions a good base to develop the plot and their dynamique, yet everybody acted like nothing ever happened and this was wasted ...