Mafia Round 25: What Will You Do For A Will? (BO Wins)

[pofa]

*bricks inactive players in disgust*

That is all.

(Not really, <3 to my allies. It was fun playing with you. And \o/ at both of my abilities being useful before I died.)

I like the kill abilities as well. It would have been interesting to play with them as BO. But before the next round, can we rethink Sherry a little? D: I don't think "not having a blending ability" justifies letting her give the BO a new APTX when she kills, AND convert APTX so that the BO can injure like three people at once when the game's almost over and they're not sure who the last police is, AND ID someone every two nights (especially if the BO also has Bourbon). Maybe we can leave her with like...one of those options, and give her a blending ability to compensate or something?

[Kleene Onigiri]

I'm not against the volatile APTX D: I'm always for pushing up the BO :3
But I don't wanna get the APTX in da face every round either :p

Sure, you can get killed easily. But you can hinder the killing in various ways. But you can just stop the APTX with kazuha, and just 1x too D:

I'd say you're just as likely to get APTXed in da faec every round as you are to get killed every round, I doubt they're always gonna poison the same people.

And most of the ways that night kills are hindered can be easily bypassed themselves via sniping or bribe, which is straight-up impossible to hinder.

True, if I'm BO, I won't get poisoned :x
Or if we're both town, maybe you'll get it then ;P XD

Well, in the end it was just a suggestion D:


@pofa: what ability would you give her then?

@next GM: I thought CaseClosed is next in line? :V

[Vylash]

@next GM: I thought CaseClosed is next in line? :V

Ah, about that- I can't GM.

Life is WAY too hectic right now and I can't dedicate the time. Tell the others I'm sorry. 

Thanks for the PM though. 

[miikosan]

Whch means Cheesus is next...

I wanna play!

[Kleene Onigiri]

Ah, I see D:

[Akonyl]

*bricks inactive players in disgust*

That is all.

(Not really, <3 to my allies. It was fun playing with you. And \o/ at both of my abilities being useful before I died.)

I like the kill abilities as well. It would have been interesting to play with them as BO. But before the next round, can we rethink Sherry a little? D: I don't think "not having a blending ability" justifies letting her give the BO a new APTX when she kills, AND convert APTX so that the BO can injure like three people at once when the game's almost over and they're not sure who the last police is, AND ID someone every two nights (especially if the BO also has Bourbon). Maybe we can leave her with like...one of those options, and give her a blending ability to compensate or something?

maybe, but I don't really see convert APTX as being very powerful because when you use it, you give up one of your other APTXes that could be used for a vote.

also, her IDing didn't really help the BO much this round. Sure they got their final verdicts from it on you/parkur, but they still had a pretty good idea on who you both were and would have poisoned you both just the same if they didn't have their verdicts. I'd say the only time it really helped was with Stopwatch, who they never managed to poison, but might have tried to otherwise.

Remember, even with sherry+bourbon, which you're saying is a crazy powerful combo, if it hadn't been for the inactive players, the BO probably wouldn't have won this. The BO got very lucky on APTXing an interrogator + lawyer, and having Meme step out of the game, and having there be no Megure/Shiratori (and if there was, their vote-tying plan would have backfired immensely). If there was actually a problem with pairing sherry + bourbon up, I would think the BO would have done a bit better

[Schillok]

*bricks inactive players in disgust*

That is all.

(Not really, <3 to my allies. It was fun playing with you. And \o/ at both of my abilities being useful before I died.)

I like the kill abilities as well. It would have been interesting to play with them as BO. But before the next round, can we rethink Sherry a little? D: I don't think "not having a blending ability" justifies letting her give the BO a new APTX when she kills, AND convert APTX so that the BO can injure like three people at once when the game's almost over and they're not sure who the last police is, AND ID someone every two nights (especially if the BO also has Bourbon). Maybe we can leave her with like...one of those options, and give her a blending ability to compensate or something?

maybe, but I don't really see convert APTX as being very powerful because when you use it, you give up one of your other APTXes that could be used for a vote.

also, her IDing didn't really help the BO much this round. Sure they got their final verdicts from it on you/parkur, but they still had a pretty good idea on who you both were and would have poisoned you both just the same if they didn't have their verdicts. I'd say the only time it really helped was with Stopwatch, who they never managed to poison, but might have tried to otherwise.

Remember, even with sherry+bourbon, which you're saying is a crazy powerful combo, if it hadn't been for the inactive players, the BO probably wouldn't have won this. The BO got very lucky on APTXing an interrogator + lawyer, and having Meme step out of the game, and having there be no Megure/Shiratori (and if there was, their vote-tying plan would have backfired immensely). If there was actually a problem with pairing sherry + bourbon up, I would think the BO would have done a bit better

Their lynch-vote tying vote would also have backfired if the two tricksters would have been more active. After the town knows all of the BO it is easy to keep 2 out of 4 BO locked each night which means a 50% chance to kill successfully (not counting quick-shoot... but that belonged to Korn, right?)  and delay them from getting more information for the poison.
There are probably other powerful combinations hidden among the new BO abilities and with less BO it gets easier to repeat the cycle.

Still, I didn't find anything that needed immediate attention. This game the BO had a very strong rooster for finding roles and poisoning, but defensive (Vodka, Tequila) and infiltration/confusion (Anokata, Vermouth, Irish) - wise they were very limited. So to my understanding the BO just used their strong side this game and was able to overcome their lack of the other points (The town alliance would have been their end quickly if they didn't get rid of its members soon and they managed to take out the interrogators quickly.)

Of course it is up to the next GM to make changes but at least I would like to keep the BO changes. Maybe some adjustments where Cheesus seems them necessary. There are still a lot of other things that could (and should) be changed. Starting with the town and some of their abilities... 

[miikosan]

Agreed.

After tonso was revealed and we were desperately hoping that we could tie the vote, Tequila seemed very useful for once.

It wasn't easy for us though. Sure, we managed to get info quick at the beginning, but once PT was arrested it became more difficult. We only had Abs, lynz, and mystery left.

We got lucky with Parkur. And Yuriko told lynz her role too.

[lyndsi]

I still feel bad for that by the way....just letting you know...lol

[miikosan]

And is Cheesus GMing? Haven't heard from him in a while...

[Dus]

So it ended today?

[PT]

Technically, it ended night before last.

[Dus]

I still like the timing.

[Akonyl]

way to not be around for it ya jerk </3

[Cheesus]

Im doing the next one?

Buttt
I think we need to rethink the sherry idea as well :V