If one DB is frightened by Tequila and only one DB has sent an action (won't matter if it's the same DB in both situations or not), the action will fail. If two DBs send in the same action, the action has a 50% chance of succeeding. If all three DBs send in the same action, then the action has a 66% chance of succeeding.
Does that mean that the DBs would have to submit two (or three) orders, just in case they get frightened? That sounds a bit counter-intuitive.
If Tequila frightens the DB who would perform the action (Ayumi for identify for example), then it should fail all the time - even if Mitsuhiko and Genta sent in the same (or their own) orders.
Schillok wrote:
Does that mean that the DBs would have to submit two (or three) orders, just in case they get frightened? That sounds a bit counter-intuitive.
If Tequila frightens the DB who would perform the action (Ayumi for identify for example), then it should fail all the time - even if Mitsuhiko and Genta sent in the same (or their own) orders.
That's exactly what it means. If only one DB sends in the orders, then it makes it easier for the BO to make their actions fail. If, on the other hand, all of them send in the orders, it makes it a little harder on the BO and a little easier on the DBs.
Keep in mind that each player is required to send me a PM each phase anyway either with actions or a note saying they're still active.
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Schillok wrote:
Does that mean that the DBs would have to submit two (or three) orders, just in case they get frightened? That sounds a bit counter-intuitive.
If Tequila frightens the DB who would perform the action (Ayumi for identify for example), then it should fail all the time - even if Mitsuhiko and Genta sent in the same (or their own) orders.
That's exactly what it means. If only one DB sends in the orders, then it makes it easier for the BO to make their actions fail. If, on the other hand, all of them send in the orders, it makes it a little harder on the BO and a little easier on the DBs.
Keep in mind that each player is required to send me a PM each phase anyway either with actions or a note saying they're still active.
But that then means that using Tequila against the DB is very ineffective against the BO. Even if they know (or strongly suspect) on player being DB, using frighten to stop them is nothing more than a gamble. In the worst case they have a 33% chance of having the DBs action stopped by an ability, that is mainly used to combat those few day roles that are in the game.
Why should that do it? In this situation they could almost consider using it against a random other player just to hope they catch Haibara, Kobayashi or Kazuha with it whose actions would be stopped for sure.
What is so wrong with the old way? If frighten is used against the DB that "owns" the used ability, the DBs will fail. If another DB used its ability, the action goes through normally.
Schillok wrote:
But that then means that using Tequila against the DB is very ineffective against the BO. Even if they know (or strongly suspect) on player being DB, using frighten to stop them is nothing more than a gamble. In the worst case they have a 33% chance of having the DBs action stopped by an ability, that is mainly used to combat those few day roles that are in the game.
Why should that do it? In this situation they could almost consider using it against a random other player just to hope they catch Haibara, Kobayashi or Kazuha with it whose actions would be stopped for sure.
What is so wrong with the old way? If frighten is used against the DB that "owns" the used ability, the DBs will fail. If another DB used its ability, the action goes through normally.
you realize of course that before the DBs were given their own abilities, her method is exactly how frightening a DB went (a % chance), and that her method of requiring all the DB to hand the action in is actually advantageous to the BO because it gives them a larger chance to pull it off.
Schillok wrote:
But that then means that using Tequila against the DB is very ineffective against the BO. Even if they know (or strongly suspect) on player being DB, using frighten to stop them is nothing more than a gamble. In the worst case they have a 33% chance of having the DBs action stopped by an ability, that is mainly used to combat those few day roles that are in the game.
Why should that do it? In this situation they could almost consider using it against a random other player just to hope they catch Haibara, Kobayashi or Kazuha with it whose actions would be stopped for sure.
What is so wrong with the old way? If frighten is used against the DB that "owns" the used ability, the DBs will fail. If another DB used its ability, the action goes through normally.
you realize of course that before the DBs were given their own abilities, her method is exactly how frightening a DB went (a % chance), and that her method of requiring all the DB to hand the action in is actually advantageous to the BO because it gives them a larger chance to pull it off.
Well, but now that we (you) updated the DBs abilities so we didn't need that %chance anymore I was hoping to leave that kind of randomness out of the game.
