Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

[Borealis]

1) No, he wouldn't
2) What are you talking about, I never said anything like that

[Kogorou]

So they both would have survived on board of their spaceship.

This is getting interesting

[sstimson]

Spoiler:

Jim and John are in space either in a spaceship or a space station. It was hit by a meteor and now has an air leak. John went out of the ship/station to try and fix the air leak, but something went wrong and his life line got cut. Jim is left on the leaking air ship/station but has no idea how to fix the leak. If he goes out side he has no one who can get him back and they used the only life line they had. Either way because of John failure, Jim is now doomed

Spoiler:

This would also work underwater only  this time instead of dying by lack of air, they would drown and the accident to the sub or underwater lab could be an earthquake that cracked the dome

Update

Spoiler:

Since Jim even though he has no good way of fixing the hole, he decides to go for broke. He goes out side and takes a look at the hole. It is bigger then He thought it was. Realizing he can not fix it he tries to get back to the airlock, but his motions instead move him father away. After an hour, he gives up and removes his helmet and dies  

[update]

Spoiler:

Jim and John were in space in a spaceship. It went out of control somehow (Maybe It was hit by a meteor) and crashed on Mars

That part I am sure of but now again I enter areas that do not make sense unless John was killed in the crash.
that would leave Jim the choice of a quick death or a slow one as there is likely on hope of rescue. And yes I know you said that Jim Suicided and did not die by lack of oxygen, but a very simple way to die is either to remove his helmet if the ship is no longer air tight or open an airlock if it is. However that would of course not be the answer you are looking for.

you said this :Will Jim die from lack of oxygen?  No (he kills himself before that)

IMO your answer (I hope) would be more correct if you said (But of course that might give it away) He did not wait for the oxygen to run out, He made it happen now.

So the events: Jim and John's ship crashes on Mars. John is killed in the crash. The radio if there is one is destroyed and there is no hope of a timely rescue, so instead of waiting for the oxygen to run out, Jim removes his helmet and opened the airlock.

Why - No hope of rescue and was  he right YES

And if the above is wrong then a few questions

Did their ship crash on mars ( I think this will be a yes)
Was one of them killed in the crash (I think this is a yes)
Did Jim remove his helmet ? ( I guess Yes)
Did Jim go outside the ship ? ( I guess No if he only opened the air lock with his helmet off)
Did any part of the ship remain air tight after the crash ( I guess yes)

[syuusuke09]

ahm... im new... can i make one...
well a kurt and amanda are dating on a mall and suddenly a black out happened and while the two hold hands... kurt suddenly pinch the hand of amanda tightly and after the electricity went back he's dead... he has been stabbed in his neck with a small but sharp object because of the appearance of the wound and blood loss... the police came together with a great detective named jhoemel(i made this name up because its my name... hehehe) and after he looked at the body he ordered police inspector kyle to gather anyone on the mall that is a friend or aquentance of the victim and amanda and they found out three people.....

a. Carrie - a biologist student that's studying on a nearby university... she said she's just buying some instrument that he will use in their experiment. she's a close friend of kurt.

b. James - a carpenter that makes a lot of money building cabinets.. he said that he was taking an order of a client for a custom made cabinet in a coffee shop in the mall... a close friend of amanda

c. Brent - a gang leader that loves amanda but got dump the other day... he said he was just chilling and waiting for his friend....


so who's the murderer? it's kind of easy... hehe

[syuusuke09]

well detective jhoemel said that she is the killer... but of course we need evidence to pin her and put her against a strong case... her belongings are brought out... the items that's with her are a cellphone (but it was checked and no log that says she called the victim and when the caller was called using the phone of the victim... her phone didnt ring even its on) and she had a scalpel with her that she brought so that she can but the exact same thing... when it was tested for blood... luminol reacts to it.. but she just tells that she had use it in some disection so of course it will reacts to luminol.... and the scalpel's blade has rust... she said it cant be use to cut something... she was found going to the bathroom


clue... she used two tricks to perform the crime... so can u unveil her tricks and get the evidence to pin her to the crime.... ?

[Kogorou]

@syuusuke: Welcome onboard
Would you please wait until the last riddle is solved?

[Borealis]

Spoiler:

Jim and John were in space in a spaceship. It went out of control somehow (Maybe It was hit by a meteor) and crashed on Mars

That part I am sure of but now again I enter areas that do not make sense unless John was killed in the crash.
that would leave Jim the choice of a quick death or a slow one as there is likely on hope of rescue. And yes I know you said that Jim Suicided and did not die by lack of oxygen, but a very simple way to die is either to remove his helmet if the ship is no longer air tight or open an airlock if it is. However that would of course not be the answer you are looking for.

you said this :Will Jim die from lack of oxygen?  No (he kills himself before that)

IMO your answer (I hope) would be more correct if you said (But of course that might give it away) He did not wait for the oxygen to run out, He made it happen now.

So the events: Jim and John's ship crashes on Mars. John is killed in the crash. The radio if there is one is destroyed and there is no hope of a timely rescue, so instead of waiting for the oxygen to run out, Jim removes his helmet and opened the airlock.

Why - No hope of rescue and was  he right YES

And if the above is wrong then a few questions

Did their ship crash on mars ( I think this will be a yes)
Was one of them killed in the crash (I think this is a yes)
Did Jim remove his helmet ? ( I guess Yes)
Did Jim go outside the ship ? ( I guess No if he only opened the air lock with his helmet off)
Did any part of the ship remain air tight after the crash ( I guess yes)

Spoiler:

No meteor
Hint: Clothing
In the book, they for some reason have a weapon.... But Mars is full of high cliffs.....

Rest is almost correct

It was a crash-landing (no meteor or so)
No
No
Yes
Yes

[Kogorou]

Where both of them in the same spaceship?

[Borealis]

Yes

[sstimson]

Does it matter what caused the crash?
Did Jim go outside first?
Did John go outside first?
(keep getting order of who died first, these questions should clear that up)
Next more clearing things up from earlier questions and answers

Did John die in an accident? Yes
Is how John died important to solving the riddle? Yes
Did John die from lack of oxygen? Yes

More Questions

Does how John lost his oxygen matter?
Was his hose cut?
Did John try to radio for help?
Did John get too far from the spaceship to be able to get back?
Did Jim's body leave the ship alive?
Did Jim die outside the ship?
Did John have a life line?
Does their ship have an air lock?
Did John leave the ship to try and repair something?
Did John's Spacesuit Tear?

Also a clarification. I asked Did Jim remove his helmet  and You answered No. As I already explained and will do again, A quick and easy way to kill ones self where spacesuits are needed to live is to remove the air seal between you and the outside. One way to do this is to start to remove your helmet. You might disconnect your air hose but that would take more work.

One last question. Did Jim kill himself by leaving the spaceship without a space suit?

[Borealis]

1) No
2) No
3) No (confused? they went out at pretty much the same time)

New Questions:
1) It is one point I want you to find out
2) No
3) ... Next
4) No (add two words and it is a yes)
5) Yes (he isn't dead jet)
6) Yes (--------- "---------)
7) ... no
8) I think that is standard?
9) Yes
10)ALMOST righ

I already explained how he kills himself in my source. And I think sufocation is not a pleasent death

No

[lucky777]

haven't seen all the questions but here is my guess to what happened

Spoiler:

2 people are needed to open the door out to space and while John was outside the spacecraft fixing the ship, a tear at his spacesuit caused his body to be forced out from that tiny gap killing him because he got crushed by the entire pressure of space against him. Now that John was dead Jim can't go back into the ship so he was stuck out in space so he killed himself by tearing his own spacesuit

If not then some questions
1. Did john or jim glass bit of the helmet crack/damage?
2. Was 2 people required to open the spaceship door?
3. Did John lose something that led to his death?
4. Did any part oft he suit get damaged (like the spacesuit or boot)?
5. Were they still recognizable after their death (like say they were burned badly by the Sun or their entire bodies just got disfigured)?
6. Did anything like dust or debris hit them creating a small hole/tear?

[Borealis]

1) No
2) No
3)No
4)Yes/No
5) They were recognisable
6) No

[sstimson]

Did they leave the ship for different reasons?
Did the spacesuit get damaged while leaving the ship?
Did Jim jump off a high area to die?

(Note if so I not sure that would work as according to Wikipedia, Mars' Gravity is about 38% of earths and A jump like that would likey only bounce. By the way, there is another kind of death for a bad suit beside not being able to breathe, or freezing, and that is from pressure. It could be called a kind of bends, but in reverse. Instead of greater pressure and getting crushed, as Mars has less air pressure then earth, parts of the body would expand and likely burst kinda of like an explosion as the force in the body is greater then the force outside. But again that is a nasty death.)

Did one of them go for a walk?
Are you allow to tell us again how Jim died? (yes he killed himself, but Are you allowed to tell us how?)
Did John need to go too far from the spaceship to be able to get back? (Well, you did say if would be a yes if I added the right two words)

[Borealis]

No
No
Doesn't matter

Yes
It doesn't matter
The right words were "in time"