Mafia Round 12 - Bear Round! (Day Five...??)

[Eve]

So early... hopefully everyone will be revived in time

didn't you say you wanted to play?

WHY AREN'T YOU ADDING YOUR NAME, MISSY?

Wait, I pm'ed GrawwBear now it's up to him to add me

WAIT A Cotton picking second: Reading one set of rules(Abs. rules) is enough, there are ore than one?

ah, generally people just tack themselves onto the list in their own post.

As to the ruleset this game, it looks the same as Abs's ruleste, with the added stipulation of no screenshotting PMs.

And yes Khinkhun, hte rules tend to change a little bit every round, depending on the GM's fancy.

Got it thx ^^  I'll review the rules some more and be in position until the 29th

[Conia]

New Round starting... 2:00 AM Friday 30th Argentina?
I see...
I vote for Akonyl's change. Even better if it is -2 hours.


Will I play the Bear Round?

[Abs.]

Here are some issues that came up last round that you may wish to address before the start of this round:

Kogoro is notified whether he starts off drunk or sober?  (I notified.)

What happens if someone interrogates/investigates someone who is traveling/not in Japan?  (I treated as tricked=action failed.)
What about heal/protect? (Not specified whether successful or failed.)

APTX target lynched -> APTX not used up?  (Not used up.)

What if Vodka discombobulates Eisuke, and Eisuke discombobulates Vodka, and Vodka also does the kill that night?  (I don't have an answer for this.)



Also, I'm glad Takagi died the first night because it turns out it's really difficult to remember to send out Auto-Reports.

[Conia]

Here are some issues that came up last round that you may wish to address before the start of this round:

Kogoro is notified whether he starts off drunk or sober?  (I notified.)

What happens if someone interrogates/investigates someone who is traveling/not in Japan?  (I treated as tricked=action failed.)
What about heal/protect? (Not specified whether successful or failed.)

APTX target lynched -> APTX not used up?  (Not used up.)

What if Vodka discombobulates Eisuke, and Eisuke discombobulates Vodka, and Vodka also does the kill that night?  (I don't have an answer for this.)



Also, I'm glad Takagi died the first night because it turns out it's really difficult to remember to send out Auto-Reports.

What I can say:
Kogoro should be notified.
About traveling, it should be said something like "There wasn't an action to trick". This should be used for players not in Japan, or for those who didn't make an action (either it has a Day ability or didn't used its Night action).
Not used APTX in case of lynching.
no idea about Vodka and Eisuke

[CTU]

Here are some issues that came up last round that you may wish to address before the start of this round:

Kogoro is notified whether he starts off drunk or sober?  (I notified.)

What happens if someone interrogates/investigates someone who is traveling/not in Japan?  (I treated as tricked=action failed.)
What about heal/protect? (Not specified whether successful or failed.)

APTX target lynched -> APTX not used up?  (Not used up.)

What if Vodka discombobulates Eisuke, and Eisuke discombobulates Vodka, and Vodka also does the kill that night?  (I don't have an answer for this.)



Also, I'm glad Takagi died the first night because it turns out it's really difficult to remember to send out Auto-Reports.

What I can say:
Kogoro should be notified.
About traveling, it should be said something like "There wasn't an action to trick". This should be used for players not in Japan, or for those who didn't make an action (either it has a Day ability or didn't used its Night action).
Not used APTX in case of lynching.
no idea about Vodka and Eisuke

My quess would be only the tricking would be tricked and the killing should still go through

as for Kogoro When I was GM I said he was the "Drunk Detective" So yeah I said

[pofa]

Here are some issues that came up last round that you may wish to address before the start of this round:

Kogoro is notified whether he starts off drunk or sober?  (I notified.)

What happens if someone interrogates/investigates someone who is traveling/not in Japan?  (I treated as tricked=action failed.)
What about heal/protect? (Not specified whether successful or failed.)

APTX target lynched -> APTX not used up?  (Not used up.)

What if Vodka discombobulates Eisuke, and Eisuke discombobulates Vodka, and Vodka also does the kill that night?  (I don't have an answer for this.)



Also, I'm glad Takagi died the first night because it turns out it's really difficult to remember to send out Auto-Reports.

What I can say:
Kogoro should be notified.
About traveling, it should be said something like "There wasn't an action to trick". This should be used for players not in Japan, or for those who didn't make an action (either it has a Day ability or didn't used its Night action).
Not used APTX in case of lynching.
no idea about Vodka and Eisuke

My quess would be only the tricking would be tricked and the killing should still go through

as for Kogoro When I was GM I said he was the "Drunk Detective" So yeah I said

When I was GM, I didn't notify Kogoro. But the more I think about it, the more I think I should have. He's a fairly weak role, so it would be nice if he had some knowledge at the start of the game (and it wouldn't be so easy for the BO to disguise as him then).

[Commi-Ninja]

As far as the Eisuke/Vodka problem, what if the discombobulations rule one another out?  Then it would just end up with Vodka killing whoever (if he were assigned to kill that night).

[Abs.]

As far as the Eisuke/Vodka problem, what if the discombobulations rule one another out?  Then it would just end up with Vodka killing whoever (if he were assigned to kill that night).

Doesn't this then mean that only Vodka's discombobulation went through?

[Commi-Ninja]

As far as the Eisuke/Vodka problem, what if the discombobulations rule one another out?  Then it would just end up with Vodka killing whoever (if he were assigned to kill that night).

Doesn't this then mean that only Vodka's discombobulation went through?

Hmm I suppose that could be the case.  I was thinking more along the lines of "it never happened" in the first place.  How often is this likely to occur?  .....I'm guessing about as likely as Akemi and KID stealing from the same person? O.o"

[Akonyl]

Here are some issues that came up last round that you may wish to address before the start of this round:
What if Vodka discombobulates Eisuke, and Eisuke discombobulates Vodka, and Vodka also does the kill that night?  (I don't have an answer for this.)

fun fact, when I originally suggested Vodka as a BO-Eisuke, I included a stipulation of "vodka and eisuke can't be in the same game", solely for this reason.

However, I've come to the conclusion that in this case, both of them should receive a "you got discombobulated" message. It's like they're both walking in a dark alley, and BAM they run into each other and fall on the ground. If you didn't give either the message, things would get weird if vodka went off to kill someone that same night, methinks.

Also, in the case that vodka tricks eisuke, who tricks me, vodka will successfully trick eisuke, and my action will end up going through.

edit: removed an extra word.

[Commi-Ninja]

Here are some issues that came up last round that you may wish to address before the start of this round:
What if Vodka discombobulates Eisuke, and Eisuke discombobulates Vodka, and Vodka also does the kill that night?  (I don't have an answer for this.)

fun fact, when I originally suggested Vodka as a BO-Eisuke, I included a stipulation of "vodka and eisuke can't be in the same game", solely for this reason.

However, I've come to the conclusion that in this case, both of them should receive a "you got discombobulated" message. It's like they're both walking in a dark alley, and BAM they run into each other and fall on the ground. If you didn't give either the message, things would get weird if vodka went off to kill someone that same night, methinks.

Also, in the case that vodka tricks eisuke, who tricks someone me, vodka will successfully trick eisuke, and my action will end up going through.

That makes a lot more sense.  And I'd forgotten about the rule where only one of them could be in a game.

[Abs.]

@Akonyl

Wait.  Kill: Yes kill or no kill?

@Commi-Ninja

Everything that CAN happen in Mafia, WILL happen in Mafia  :P

[PT]

@Commi-Ninja

Everything that CAN happen in Mafia, WILL happen in Mafia  :P

Murphy's Law of Mafia: Anything that can happen, will happen - with the worst possible side-effects for all involved parties.

[CTU]

@Commi-Ninja

Everything that CAN happen in Mafia, WILL happen in Mafia 

Murphy's Law of Mafia: Anything that can happen, will happen - with the worst possible side-effects for all involved parties.

lol so true...except for what Pofa did in the last round...that worked out great for the ORG

[Akonyl]

@Akonyl

Wait.  Kill: Yes kill or no kill?

in the case that vodka and eisuke target each other with discombobulation, absolutely nothing either of them does will go through that phase (except the trick, technically), and both of them will receive a "you got bobulated" message.

So, if Vodka was assigned to kill that night, it won't happen. If Eisuke had the bowtie and interrogated someone, that won't happen.

Also, something I'm not sure is in the rules: If someone has agasa's watch, and they're discombobulated, then attacked, will they not be protected (because they themselves are the protector, and got discombobulated)?