Your Top 10 Favorite Anime/Manga Characters

[Beastly]

Shit Kira is not justice. Killing isnt reasonable  >:( But he's on my list  ::)

Nah, he's justice.

EDIT: also, to backup my statement that L is a better tantei than Kudo...while Kudo is in fact a brilliant detective, he only specializes really in homicide cases, while L is pretty much the "go-to" guy for the entire world when it comes to important cases.  L's nature of always second-guessing something and his boldness (revealing his identity to who he suspects as kira to continue the case) is something i think Kudo lacks. 

Plus, just thinking about it, I can't imagine Kudo being able to solve a case when it involves something as trivial as shinigami and a killer notebook, he simply won't believe it.  He can't even realize haibara has feelings 4 her  (oh yeah, I went there)

I agree L is a bit better than Kudou. L didnt have much help really maybe in Teru Mikami arc(CORRECT ME IF WRONG I ALREADY FORGOT BUT WHEN THEY HELP EACH OTHER, WHEN HE FORGOT ABOUT DEATH NOTE) when he rejoined with Light. The police there and in Conan are both suck ass. Maybe except the 2 guys from FBI. Raye Penbar and who i forgot his fiance. But i think L's police force is better than Detective Conan. Oh maybe not with Shiratori and Sato-san. hehehhe. But L is simply brilliant. Who would thought about the Lind L. Tailor. I was like WTF??? Kudou will also be killed by Misa's shinigami what's the name lol? Since that shinigami and Misa are pure stupid in love. or maybe that shinigami is just helping jealous? No. But maybe. But if L is the death note owner. And Raito is detective i think L will win. It's just that Misa is stupid.

Light or Kudo? I'll also go with the Death Note character here.

[Beastly]

Shit Kira is not justice. Killing isnt reasonable  >:( But he's on my list  ::)

Nah, he's justice.

EDIT: also, to backup my statement that L is a better tantei than Kudo...while Kudo is in fact a brilliant detective, he only specializes really in homicide cases, while L is pretty much the "go-to" guy for the entire world when it comes to important cases.  L's nature of always second-guessing something and his boldness (revealing his identity to who he suspects as kira to continue the case) is something i think Kudo lacks.  

Plus, just thinking about it, I can't imagine Kudo being able to solve a case when it involves something as trivial as shinigami and a killer notebook, he simply won't believe it.  He can't even realize haibara has feelings 4 her  ::) (oh yeah, I went there)

Well... here is the problem.... They are both fictional characters from two extremely different genres. Death Note is more of a supernatural thriller, where as Detective Conan is almost purely mystery. Therefore, in Conan's world the Death Note would not exist, which means there would be no reason to believe it. L is probably the most singular unbelievable character in that series imo, in terms of being human. Light is believable, because I can believe that someone given the power to kill... would do exactly that... kill. And no matter who it is... it would be for justice, whether personal or for what they think is the greater good, which was what Light was doing at first, he began doing the former later.

In any case... you cannot compare the two. Death Note was a far better manga than anime, and even considering that, it is still no where near as good as DC imo.

Also, depending on the situation... Killing is absolutely reasonable. For instance... A person is pointing a knife at you, tries to stab you, and a police officer shoots and kills the person trying to stab you in order to save your life, knowing there was no other way. Are you saying that is an unjust killing? Given the cop would probably get in trouble for using excessive force, unless the perp was a serial killer, but still... That is only one example, there are many more that I could probably think of. There are also some people that should be killed because they are beyond rehabilitation. You can't change a sociopath for instance.

Now to get back on topic...

I'm going to try to make a top 10... But really, I'm more of a novel and movie guy... I never really liked anyone from an anime or manga...

Well here goes nothing [In no particular order]

1) Kaitou Kid from DC [The closest thing I am going to get to Arsene Lupin, my all time favorite protagonist on the wrong side of the law]
2) Mutsu Yakumo from Shura no Toki [I chose him specifically because he fought and beat one of my real life idols Miyamoto Musashi, but the entire Mutsu clan is bad ass]
3) Roger Smith [He's sorta like the Japanese version of Bruce Wayne/Batman... only with mecha... That gains him instant points in my book]
4) Nagato Yuki from Suzumiya Haruhi series [I just love her... she is my favorite character on the show]
5) Suzumiya Haruhi [Hard not to like a god...]
6) Lupin III [I don't think I need to explain this one]
7) Jigen from Lupin III [Again, don't think I need to explain]
8) Goemon from Lupin III [Swordsman who can cut through anything? Win right there]
9) Miyano Shiho/Haibara Ai from DC [Another character I simply love, really, she is more like Holmes in personality than Shinichi is]
10) Shion from Shion no Ou [Cute... far too cute, and a kick ass shougi player, and damned strong emotionally]

TBH I didn't want to put more than 1 character per series... but I really couldn't think of many at the time... As Was near completion I came up with the following people, but I don't want to change my list because I really do love those people...
-Zenigata [Didn't make the list because I put too many Lupin III characters on there as is, but Zenigata is awesome... Who else can throw a handcuff to arrest someone from 20 feet away?]
-Lucy from Elfen Lied [Such a great character, really she should have been on the list somewhere]
-Kenshiro from Hokuto no Ken [another character that should have been on the list... He is the DEFINITION of Badass, really, if you look in a Japanese dictionary, and look under the equivalent of badass in Japanese, you'll see his picture]
-Takumi from Initial D [Love the character, now that I am caught up with the manga, I can honestly say that his character development has only just begun, its amazing]
-Characters from HSD Kenichi [Most of the main characters from Ryozanpaku were deserving to be on the list, but I wasn't willing to put more than one on the list, which is why they didn't make it at all]
-Madlax from... well Madlax [hot and deadly, there is more to it, but you really have to see the series to understand, also should have made the list...]
-Fujiko [If you don't know, or can't guess... Don't even talk to me...]

You know I really should have thought it out more... Oh well... I guess I technically gave a top 16 [23 if you include the HSD Kenichi characters]

Also, depending on the situation... Killing is absolutely reasonable. For instance... A person is pointing a knife at you, tries to stab you, and a police officer shoots and kills the person trying to stab you in order to save your life, knowing there was no other way. Are you saying that is an unjust killing? Given the cop would probably get in trouble for using excessive force, unless the perp was a serial killer, but still... That is only one example, there are many more that I could probably think of. There are also some people that should be killed because they are beyond rehabilitation. You can't change a sociopath for instance.

At that statement. That's a complete different situation. But will you have some nerves to kill alot of person. And you want to be God of the new world. What do you think of yourself? Near "This was the most lethal weapon on the entire history" Something like that. He killed alot of guys who isnt even ready to get killed. Those criminal can even have chance to change. Also like in most of Detective Conan case. The motive is because i revenge for that. Because he killed my enter family something like that. There's some thing like that. How about those who are not really murderer. Like on the Two days with the culprit of Detective Conan. He was being accused. But he isnt really that one that did it. How can he have some chance to prove that he's not really it.

But i approved sometimes of the Death Note. But sometimes i dont want to be on Raito's side. Cause you got killed. Did you see when he's getting killed. He maybe saw the value of lifes. The thing that you want to have. The things you could have done when you're still alive. Maybe only 10% of those guys will repent. and like 10% are just accused. But there is no really chance to take out criminals.

Just my 2 cents

[tanteiconan1603]

In connection in my Top 10 Favorite Anime/Manga series, I'll create another Top10 thread but about your favorite Anime/Manga characters... It may be harder this time cause there are tons of characters but let's try our best!!!!

Here's mine; (You may state why you picked that character)

1 & 2 Kaito Kid & Gin (Detective Conan) - my usual avatars
3. L (Death Note) - enough said
4.ok po Oe Kintaro (Golden Boy) - very inspirational character
5. Hatake Kakashi (Naruto) - the coolest Naruto character IMO
6. Keigo Atobe (Prince of Tennis) - the arrogance and haistyle
7 & 8  Kurama (Yu Yu Hakusho) & Lelouch Lamperouge  (Code Geass)
- ability to think under pressure
9. Bacchi-gu (Green Green) - most perverted anime character ever
10. Haruhi Fujioka (Ouran HSHC) - the only female character on my list and my one and only anime crush!

Pretty nice for Haruhi Fujioka, she's so KAWAII!

[bluekaitou1412]

Shit Kira is not justice. Killing isnt reasonable  >:( But he's on my list  ::)

Nah, he's justice.

No! L is justice!

[GinRei]

No! L is justice!

L is the law.  Kira is justice which becomes corrupted.

[bluekaitou1412]

No! L is justice!

L is the law.  Kira is justice which becomes corrupted.

Oh.

[Beastly]

No! L is justice!

L is the law.  Kira is justice which becomes corrupted.

Oh.

Oh.

[bluekaitou1412]

No! L is justice!

L is the law.  Kira is justice which becomes corrupted.

Oh.

Oh.

Isn't Law made to promote Justice?

[nanilola]

also, to backup my statement that L is a better tantei than Kudo...while Kudo is in fact a brilliant detective, he only specializes really in homicide cases, while L is pretty much the "go-to" guy for the entire world when it comes to important cases.  L's nature of always second-guessing something and his boldness (revealing his identity to who he suspects as kira to continue the case) is something i think Kudo lacks.  

Plus, just thinking about it, I can't imagine Kudo being able to solve a case when it involves something as trivial as shinigami and a killer notebook, he simply won't believe it.  He can't even realize haibara has feelings 4 her  ::) (oh yeah, I went there)

Sure, the scene wherein L revealed his identity to Kira belongs to the coolest in anime. It was offense and defense at the same time. But, the fact that he died ahead of Kira kinda defeated that purpose, don't you think? Granted that it was only a miscalculation on his part since he didn't know that a shinigami can fall in love (while Kira knew), it ended up being a reckless thing to do.

Also, the defeat of Kira took L's and Melo's lives, Mikami Teru's unnecessary initiative, and Near's seemingly coward precaution for it to happen. BTW, I actually think Near was being very wise. My point is that L is NOT better than Kudo Shinichi. Why?

1. Simply because DC has not yet ended. BO's still at large. Too early to judge, right?
2. The poor guy shrank. lol. He's evolved as a character since then. In truth, I hate Shinichi while I love Conan. Unfortunately for me, they're one and the same person (i.e. the only reason for my butting in this thread  ;D).
3. I'm a Light fangirl. Therefore, in my book, it goes like this - L < Light < Conan.

EDIT: My favorite characters... off the top of my head are Morita Shinobu (Honey & Clover) and Tsukamoto Tenma (School Rumble).  ;D Gonna update once I remember my top 10.

[kyuuketsuki]

Beastly, they had previously stated that "Killing isn't reasonable." My argument that in some situations it IS reasonable. That was one situation in which killing another is reasonable. Even if you turned the knife on your assailant and killed him instead of yourself, you still killed the person. So to say killing is not reasonable is a bad statement. Killing like Kira kills is not... He becomes corrupted, and kills anyone whom he thinks is evil or helping evil [aka getting in his way]. And killing a sociopath is very reasonable, so long as it is not in the name of revenge. I'm one of those people that think the Death Sentence should be allowed only if the person convicted is deemed unable to be rehabilitated, like a sociopath as previously stated. Personally, I think, through his corruption, Kira has become a sociopath, and really shouldn't live. He did what I believe many people would have done in the same situation, but funnily enough... I think most people, instead of testing it on some random inmate, would test it on someone they absolutely hated.

And again, though there are fantasy elements in both series... You CANNOT compare DN to DC. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO FAIRLY. Think of it this way... if my previous argument didn't make enough sense... Lets say Kira appeared in the world of DC... Inspector Megure was on the team to find him.... Realizing that he couldn't solve it... he calls up Shinichi to help. Shinichi has no alias... And he is an egotistical bastard, so Kira would kill him the SECOND he starts moving in the right direction.

Here is an interesting thought though.... Would Shinichi die, if Kira wrote "Edogawa Conan" in the book thinking of Conan's face. Or would he need to figure out that Conan is really Shinichi and write "Kudo Shinichi" in the notebook thinking of Shinichi's face in order to kill Conan... Or would he need to write "Kudo Shinichi" thinking of Conan's face.

Also... one last thing... The fact that this guy... "L" is the goto guy for THE ENTIRE world is also bullshit. Here is why... Interpol, FBI, CIA, NSA, MI6, KGB, and any other governmental agency would NEVER EVER call a private person to do ANYTHING. EVER! That would ruin their pride. They believe their resources are enough to catch any criminal. Really, that aspect of DC is a bit irksome as well... the police would never take aid from a smart kid, or adult, unless they had a badge or a degree that said they were qualified to help. Like... if I, after graduation, stumbled onto a crime scene and made an observation, revealing I was a graduate of John Jay from their Forensic Science Criminalistics program, they would be more likely listen to me than some smart kid who has read a lot of detective novels, because I have something that says "Yes, I was trained and I know what is needed to do this job competently."

I still say DC is much much better than DN... I am not saying DN is a bad series, but DC actually makes me think. DN presents you with a moral dilemma, which is... who is right? Kira who is trying to rid the world of evil? or L trying to rid the world of the mass murderer Kira, even if he is MOSTLY killing inmates. Where as DC presents you with somewhat realistic crimes. I say somewhat, because some of the crimes are not possible to commit in DC. The explanation seems logical enough, but in terms of what is possible in real life, some are far fetched. Given, Gosho does a better job at keeping it realistic compared to the AO creators [some of those are just ridiculous].

[karisama]

You know, this thread is supposed to be about your favourite anime characters...it's not a DC vs DN debate.

[kkslider5552000]

besides, Conan fans don't work at Hot Topic.

ZING!

[Umandsf]

Is this a proven fact? It seems like finding a counterexample would be very easy.

[kkslider5552000]

I meant "most Conan fans".

ZINGZING

[ranger]

lolz, all this debate because I said Kira is justice...
I'm not going to argue or defend my viewpoint, that was just my opinion, I have my own reasons like everyone else does.

BTW, I'm not surprised by the reaction when I said L is better than Kudo this is a DC forum after all...
I'm sure if I went to a Death Note forum it would be the complete opposite haha...but like I said, it's just my opinion.

And again, though there are fantasy elements in both series... You CANNOT compare DN to DC. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO FAIRLY. Think of it this way... if my previous argument didn't make enough sense... Lets say Kira appeared in the world of DC... Inspector Megure was on the team to find him.... Realizing that he couldn't solve it... he calls up Shinichi to help. Shinichi has no alias... And he is an egotistical bastard, so Kira would kill him the SECOND he starts moving in the right direction.

Here is an interesting thought though.... Would Shinichi die, if Kira wrote "Edogawa Conan" in the book thinking of Conan's face. Or would he need to figure out that Conan is really Shinichi and write "Kudo Shinichi" in the notebook thinking of Shinichi's face in order to kill Conan... Or would he need to write "Kudo Shinichi" thinking of Conan's face.

I'm not going to say which is better, DN or DC, simply for the sake of biased arguing.
I agree that DC and DN cannot be compared, but your statement regarding Shinichi getting killed is one reason why I believe L somewhat has an advantage over him.  Shinichi is careless, and like you said, way too cocky.

To answer your question, he has to write kudo shinichi while thinking of either Conan or Shinichi's face.  Conan's face is Shinichi when he is younger.  Conan Edogawa is not a true name, aka, not a name you would see with the Shinigami eyes.  He wouldn't need to figure out anything other than think of kudo and either his teenage or child face.

Also... one last thing... The fact that this guy... "L" is the goto guy for THE ENTIRE world is also bullshit. Here is why... Interpol, FBI, CIA, NSA, MI6, KGB, and any other governmental agency would NEVER EVER call a private person to do ANYTHING. EVER! That would ruin their pride. They believe their resources are enough to catch any criminal. Really, that aspect of DC is a bit irksome as well... the police would never take aid from a smart kid, or adult, unless they had a badge or a degree that said they were qualified to help. Like... if I, after graduation, stumbled onto a crime scene and made an observation, revealing I was a graduate of John Jay from their Forensic Science Criminalistics program, they would be more likely listen to me than some smart kid who has read a lot of detective novels, because I have something that says "Yes, I was trained and I know what is needed to do this job competently."

I don't understand your argument kyu...your pointing out the trivialness in L being the main player when it comes to the world's governmental agencies...but your also saying that the police will never consort to a kid for help in countless cases...where are you going with this?

Yes both of these situations sound very fictional...but if you were to compare both of these situations, I'd have to say...L as the main detective sounds a lot more believable when compared to an entire city's police force taking advice from a 7 year old, while the officers simply only believe that he is just a "bright child".

Since we are on the topic...I'd just like to say, its interesting because the police force in DC is pretty much useless, but the police force in DN is actually pretty legit (with the exception of Matsuda)...While the FBI in DN suck massive cajones, getting wiped out TWICE (first by Kira, and then by Mello killing the FBI members in SPK) but the FBI/CIA in DC is incredibly competent.