Disection of Ran-suspicion-arcs

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Disection of Ran-suspicion-arcs

Postby sargam » November 5th, 2011, 3:36 pm

hello guyz.... it's an attempt to show the flow & progress in all these suspicions arcs till date & try to predict how the next one'll look like..... apparently i don't find these arcs boring or repetitive or frustating etc etc.... i think they were all necessary to bring the story till here... yup my patience knows no bounds... ::) :D
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Ran suspicion arc 1
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[Doctor, strange present case][She observed Conan's deduction skills & behaviour patterns]
Ran was too caught up feeling embarrassed about her confession, rather than to think much further..... Like the reasons behind shrinking.... she acted on whim & tried calling him Shinichi or mentioning 'gorilla' to catch him....  but he managed to fool her.... & she got normal thereafter....

Ran suspicion arc 2
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[Magician case][She noticed Conan is 7 yr Shinichi’s carbon copy + music skills too]
Ran was decidedly mad at him & would’ve smashed him to bits because she thought it was some kind of perverted joke he was playing on her…. She hadn’t imagined anything serious…. She thought it was some weird experiment by Dr. Agasa that made him shrink by mistake…. But later Yukiko’s appearance throws her into a fix….. Conan thinks he managed to fool her…. But Ran starts harbouring doubts about his identity & the reasons why he would do so….plus how could his mother be involved in this…. It’s got to be something critical if Conan is indeed Shinichi….

Ran suspicion arc 3
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[Desperate revival][Conan has same blood type as Shinichi]
Shinichi/Conan drama throws her off track…. & she starts feeling guilty about nestling such illogical notions in her head…. She even goes ahead & tells Shinichi about her weird ideas & how foolish she is… now that’s a first….she usually tells him she thought something stupid but never explains….. Yet her gut feeling tells her Conan doesn’t feel like the same person… but she doesn’t think too much about it…. After all her prince charming had returned…. But later he runs off again [as per her]….. She is more troubled by this cold attitude & her own insecurities… that she doesn’t notice flipping of Conan…

Ran suspicion arc 4
[spoiler][Lost mobile case][Ran’s message to Shinichi arrives on Conan’s phone]
It starts with Ran doubting about Shinichi…. she gets random thoughts about some girl with Shinichi or him using Conan to spy on her….. It is only much later when she notices that Conan didn’t contact him to solve the case….. Then she finally arrives at the old idea that maybe Conan is Shinichi after all…. She doesn’t think much as to how he managed to fool her before….. She feels quite heartbroken that he went to such great lengths to hide all this from her… she thought they are supposed to be close…. Then why wouldn’t he tell her? She thinks maybe it’s because of all those embarrassing moments earlier. Notice the change she is not directly confronting him or feeling mad remembering those moments... She looks rather moody & disoriented… first feeling guilty about snooping, then anxious about the possibility of her b’day as a code, then angry about it not being so, then tired from trying codes all night, then nervous again as it opened… later she allows herself to be fooled by him yet again…. she easily accepts it because she doesn’t want to believe or imagine anything too bad… who would want to? Everyone wants to see all’s well… maybe she even feels like Shinichi’s absence & coldness is turning her into a bit of manic… she should be ashamed as she was snooping on a kid’s phone….her temper-less & kind of self-conscious tone was the proof…. Maybe that’s one of the reasons why she said those words… “Even if I want to you to, you never call meâ€
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Re: Disection of Ran-suspicion-arcs

Postby PokerFace312 » November 5th, 2011, 4:28 pm

As you said, I believe that the next suspicion arc could very well be the last. It seems to me like Gosho is slowly building up evidence for Ran, such as the figerprints and the fact that Shinichi just happened to be in London, in a way that won't make her immdiatly suspiciou but will lead her to slowly suspect the truth.
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Re: Disection of Ran-suspicion-arcs

Postby IHKF » November 5th, 2011, 4:32 pm

I think it will be the last time too- and it defanitly will be before Ran admits to Shinichi that she likes him too. And about the bone-crushing thing.... I think she'll wait until he's in his normal body again. XD
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Re: Disection of Ran-suspicion-arcs

Postby sonoci » November 5th, 2011, 4:34 pm

I REALLY hope this is the last suspicion arc. Like, she doesn't have to have Conan/Shinichi know or admit it, just no going back to thinking he's a regular kid. The first time I get, the second time she actually continued her line of thinking so yeah, the third time Shinichi had a damn good trick so that one I get, and the most recent one he had another fairly good trick, but the suspicion to "oh whoops I was wrong" got a little eh after this one.

If she suspects again and then gets tricked back again, I'll have no more excitement for suspicion arcs.  :-\
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Postby Wakarimashita » November 5th, 2011, 4:40 pm

I don't mind the status quo, so the situation might as well stay as it is.
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Postby IHKF » November 5th, 2011, 4:49 pm

sonoci wrote:I REALLY hope this is the last suspicion arc. Like, she doesn't have to have Conan/Shinichi know or admit it, just no going back to thinking he's a regular kid. The first time I get, the second time she actually continued her line of thinking so yeah, the third time Shinichi had a damn good trick so that one I get, and the most recent one he had another fairly good trick, but the suspicion to "oh whoops I was wrong" got a little eh after this one.

If she suspects again and then gets tricked back again, I'll have no more excitement for suspicion arcs.  :-\


Same. But then we have to worry about her stopping treating him as a kid. For example, bathing with him. THAT may cause some issues just as it did the 3rd time around. XD I can imagine it now.
Kogoro: How about you two go and take a bath?
Conan: *Hesitant but nods* Let's go, Ran-neechan!
Ran: *Bends down to his level* You're a big boy now, Conan. No need to bathe with Neechan anymore! :3 *Thinks* You pervert...
Conan: O_O ...... O_o ......... =-=

I can imagine that or something similar happening for some reason. XD Then CONAN will get the suspicion that SHE'S suspicious again and try every which way to convince her otherwise- thus throwing them into a never-ending spiral of confusion, misunderstanding, and fear. XD
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Re: Disection of Ran-suspicion-arcs

Postby Stopwatch » November 5th, 2011, 5:07 pm

Hmm... yeah, all the evidence has been building up, all that's needed is a catalyst to set the final suspicion arc off...
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Re: Disection of Ran-suspicion-arcs

Postby sstimson » November 5th, 2011, 6:06 pm

I am of the opinion that those arcs are over.One event happened that left no question about it. When Conan First took Haibara "cure" was after another "arc like what you are suggesting but with a major and important differences. She give Conan blood. Inside Conan currently is Ran's Blood. If Ran's Blood is rare, then it makes it more likely for her to be even more sure. As Heiji said in Chapter 254 Page 13. "She is waiting for you to tell her first". I am sure she knows. Her hints are to help him do the right thing.
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Re: Disection of Ran-suspicion-arcs

Postby doublemoonlight » November 5th, 2011, 6:11 pm

sstimson wrote:I am of the opinion that those arcs are over.One event happened that left no question about it. When Conan First took Haibara "cure" was after another "arc like what you are suggesting but with a major and important differences. She give Conan blood. Inside Conan currently is Ran's Blood. If Ran's Blood is rare, then it makes it more likely for her to be even more sure. As Heiji said in Chapter 254 Page 13. "She is waiting for you to tell her first". I am sure she knows. Her hints are to help him do the right thing.


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Re: Disection of Ran-suspicion-arcs

Postby sstimson » November 5th, 2011, 6:41 pm

Is it a suspicion arc, or now I can force Conan to tell the known truth arc?
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Re : Disection of Ran-suspicion-arcs

Postby angelranchan » November 5th, 2011, 8:56 pm

Oh yes! Just end that Ran! Please! Yah! If she'll be trick again (i hope she'll not) i will not have any excitement anymore and i would kill Ran,conan and gosho myself! >:D even though I love Ran,i would really kill them to end that!  (but HOW will I do that?!) haha!

,hope its not so much dramatic...then Ran will not be angry,help Conan in any case...

Hope for some development...
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Postby tanteikun1412 » November 6th, 2011, 1:42 am

Just put bombs in the animation studio, production and Gosho Aoyama's studio, hehe.

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Re: Disection of Ran-suspicion-arcs

Postby Partsu » November 6th, 2011, 1:53 am

I want Ran to know...
when Conan tricks her again...I hope she doesn't fall for it...
afterall...If she's still suspicious after the desperate revival arc...basically no trick in the world can fool her 100% because if body double doesn't then what?
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I'm just thinking...wouldn't her finding out his bowtie voice-changer clear almost every mystery?
and she knows Shinichi's mom is with him on this...at least she should as Yukiko did cover for him...
and Yukiko is disguise specialist...
Voicechanger+Yukiko's disguise abilities+people willing to help him= body double's.
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Re: Disection of Ran-suspicion-arcs

Postby sstimson » November 6th, 2011, 2:03 am

I do not think that will happen. She know every time she says something, Conan does something to make it seem impossible.

But remember, Conan being Shinichi is impossible. If she can believe that, then she likely knows she been fooled. If this arc were to repeat, and Again I think it is not likely, then a better way is using her friends Kazuha to lean on Heiji why he fake being Shinichi twice and working on defrosting Haibara to get her to tell Ran the same. After all, in that one case There was a Shinichi and a Conan in the same place. and If Shinichi is Conan, then she should know the fake Conan was Haibara. Also remember she saw Conan acting as Haibara in that one case. If she learns how she might have been faked, she will be able to prove the truth.
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Re: Disection of Ran-suspicion-arcs

Postby Partsu » November 6th, 2011, 2:13 am

sstimson wrote:I do not think that will happen. She know every time she says something, Conan does something to make it seem impossible.

But remember, Conan being Shinichi is impossible. If she can believe that, then she likely knows she been fooled. If this arc were to repeat, and Again I think it is not likely, then a better way is using her friends Kazuha to lean on Heiji why he fake being Shinichi twice and working on defrosting Haibara to get her to tell Ran the same. After all, in that one case There was a Shinichi and a Conan in the same place. and If Shinichi is Conan, then she should know the fake Conan was Haibara. Also remember she saw Conan acting as Haibara in that one case. If she learns how she might have been faked, she will be able to prove the truth.


Well...
1.she didn't see Conan acting as Haibara (He had mask off when Ran came from the trunk where she heard only gunshots and no conversation)
2.If she suspects that Conan=Shinichi she also can easily deduct:
Yukiko is helping him,she covered her once. Heiji's mask.
Agasa & Haibara are helping him, because of the shirgami/highway incident,no other proof.Okay Agasa has covered for him more often...like london arc
Heiji is helping him, Disguised as him twice,calls him Kudo

so yeah Ran has plenty of work material...She just really needs to see something that changes his voice
and Voila!
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