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On Scientists & Engineers (Okiya, Shiho, Agasa, ?)

Postby sushimaster » July 14th, 2011, 2:38 am

Ok, I read the theory on Okiya being Suichi Akai in disguise. The reasoning looks good. I only have 1 thing in mind: Okiya is an engineering graduate student. It's a highly specialized skill, not something easy to pretend to be. Undergraduate student, maybe, but graduate? He is also pursuing a doctorate, so he is a Phd student. It make sense also from his age & the fact that he do researches (some masters students also do research in their field, but not all of them do, & the ones that do, the level of research differ from Phd students). If you are Shuichi Akai, you might not have the time to study engineering in your spare time, while you are infiltrating BO, being an FBI member, & so on.

I also don't really like how Gosho lump scientists & engineers together, like they are all interchangable. Shiho is a scientist, possibly a biochemist. Okiya is an engineer. If he is bourbon, he might be a computer engineer, but he might also majors in unrelated-to-BO fields, like civil, industrial, & so on. Agasa is probably a mechanical or electrical engineer, since he tend to invent stuffs with electronic wiring? He also invent the bomb used in one of the cases, which is another example of science generalization (is it seven rainbows? I forgot the name).

The point is, they are all have their own field. Being an expert in one doesn't mean they are an expert in others as well. The science & engineering fields are a broad area anyway. Just because Agasa can make a bow tie that can imitate people's voices doesn't mean he can make a bomb. Just because Okiya is an engineering student doesn't mean that he'll be able to help Agasa's research if their field are not connected. I'm referring to the red, white, & yellow case - the kids mentioned that Agasa has a doctoral in engineering, to which Okiya replied that he is working towards a doctoral degree in engineering.

Any thoughts on this?
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Re: On Scientists & Engineers (Okiya, Shiho, Agasa, ?)

Postby Stopwatch » July 14th, 2011, 2:50 am

Well, it's mentioned in 252 that Agasa didn't make the bomb, he just made the colour thing to set off at the same time as the bomb and I think Chekhov's already covered the Akai faking engineering graduate thing...
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Re: On Scientists & Engineers (Okiya, Shiho, Agasa, ?)

Postby ranger » July 14th, 2011, 3:33 am

If Akai is Okiya, it is possible to have an engineering background as a FBI agent (undergrad degree), however, usually FBI special agents that have an engineering degree do something tech/computer related, and thus somewhat related to the cyber crime division.

I have no idea if Akai had any history with cyber crime in the FBI, so it is a little far fetched.

However, it is still possible, and so far in the anime, Okiya hasn't actually "done" anything engineering related in front of Agasa - meaning he could possibly just be using "sleight of mouth"  (is that a saying? totally should be) and lying.  He could easily lie about that with an undergrad engineering degree, especially if he doesn't need to demonstrate any of his expertise.

If I were to classify Agasa as a specific type of engineer, I would most likely say mechanical - they still dabble in many EE (electrical engineering) concepts.  If you wanted to be really nitpicky, you could say he possesses some type of minor in Computer Science, since he has demonstrated to be able to program games.  Then again, in this day and age, almost all engineers have to take an introductory computer science class, however Agasa is an old fart and back in the day when he got his degree, computer science definitely wasn't as hot as it is now.

Regarding Okiya helping Agasa with research and such - it's not unheard of engineers in other disciplines working in a totally different field.  Agasa invents machinery - with his bowtie, solar skateboard, etc.  These items require knowledge in Electrical, Mechanical, Computer, Material Science, General, and Industrial.  If Okiya falls into any of these types of Engineering, he most definitely can help.
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