A question about the plots in "Detective Conan"

[Dwalin]

There is a question that has been tormenting me for a long time: while watching “Detective Conanâ€

[dilbertschalter]

[quote="Dwalin"]
There is a question that has been tormenting me for a long time: while watching “Detective Conanâ€

[Wakarimashita]

I think you're supposed to understand that no matter how horrible the victims behave, it is not right to kill them.

[Dwalin]

I think you're supposed to understand that no matter how horrible the victims behave, it is not right to kill them.

I understand that, it just seems strange to me that ALMOST ALL the cases follow the pattern of the "bad" victim.

[Wakarimashita]

I think you're supposed to understand that no matter how horrible the victims behave, it is not right to kill them.

I understand that, it just seems strange to me that ALMOST ALL the cases follow the pattern of the "bad" victim.

Maybe because killing good people repeatedly in a kids show would be a bit too much. For example, remember how they kept Akemi alive in episode 13 (and they had to redo everything in episode 128).

[Dwalin]

Maybe because killing good people repeatedly in a kids show would be a bit too much. For example, remember how they kept Akemi alive in episode 13 (and they had to redo everything in episode 128).

I understand. But if the victims are made "bad" not to hurt children, why not make murderers no better than them? I mean, when a corrupt businessman is killed, he could be eliminated by an accomplice or by some other corrupt guy instead of somebody who had his life ruined and seeks revenge after not obtaining justice in a legal way. That's precisely what puzzles me the most.

[Kleene Onigiri]

what I could think of:

The murder is usually planed. This means that the murderer needs a motive. And it's easier to create a motive when the victim is a total ass and a bad person.
You usually don't want to kill of the good people. Since you can usually also easily trick good people when you're yourself a bad person. (I guess)

Another reason could be, that you as the audience can easier see yourself as the murderer that way. Because the victim did something horrible to the murderer, the murderer wanted revenge. That way you can easier think: "yes, maybe I would have done the same".
You wouldn't be able to understand the murderers actions as good when the murderer is the bad person while the victim is the good one.

Since gosho wants to teach people that it's bad to kill people, he'll be able to make the audience understand the reasons for the murder better, and be able to move the audience better that way. You learn better when you can put yourself into that situation.

I also think there are usually not many murders in real life, where the murderer is pure evil and killed a person even tho that person didn't do anything bad. For a planed murder, you usually have some kind of reason.

They usually show the value of life when the "good" murderer is regretting doing it. Because he can't undo his murder. Because life is precious like that and murder shouldn't be a solution to problems.

[A.E.]

what I could think of:

The murder is usually planed. This means that the murderer needs a motive. And it's easier to create a motive when the victim is a total ass and a bad person.
You usually don't want to kill of the good people. Since you can usually also easily trick good people when you're yourself a bad person. (I guess)

This was the first thing to say, but kleene got to it first
Second, when you are given the chance sympathise with a murderer, you could also think, "hey, this is a really good guy, but he's been exploited by the victim, been ill-treated, etc.... isn't it such a waste that he committed a murder, and now has to go to jail; murder hasn't served him a very good justice, has it?"

[Dwalin]

I also think there are usually not many murders in real life, where the murderer is pure evil and killed a person even tho that person didn't do anything bad. For a planed murder, you usually have some kind of reason.

Still, in most real cases the murderers are not pitiful, desperate people either. When I read real criminal chronicles, I almost never feel that way about the murderers as I do while watching many of Detective Conan's episodes.

[Wakarimashita]

Maybe because killing good people repeatedly in a kids show would be a bit too much. For example, remember how they kept Akemi alive in episode 13 (and they had to redo everything in episode 128).

I understand. But if the victims are made "bad" not to hurt children, why not make murderers no better than them? I mean, when a corrupt businessman is killed, he could be eliminated by an accomplice or by some other corrupt guy instead of somebody who had his life ruined and seeks revenge after not obtaining justice in a legal way. That's precisely what puzzles me the most.

Not all the culprits have a tragedy to justify their doing. Quite a few murderers kill for money or other rather selfish reasons.

[red.orchid]

I think Gosho expressed this once through his mouthpiece Kudo Shinichi

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So, despite the fact how "cool" and "reasonable" a motive sounds, you are not to kill. That's what I get from DC.

Besides, Gosho has tried to create other crimes in DC such as kidnapping, swindle, theft ... in order to educate people.

[I have just tried to fix these images]

[Abs.]

@red.orchid

None of your images work.

[red.orchid]

@red.orchid

None of your images work.

My apologies. I'll fix them.

[dilbertschalter]

they worked for me.

(before that post was made)

[Jd-]

It may not be especially engaging compared to motives in related fiction aimed at older audiences, but the lesson to be learned (there's no reason to kill someone) is a fair one.