Possible Sad Ending

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Re: Possible Sad Ending

Postby ProfParanoia » March 31st, 2011, 10:55 pm

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Mead wrote:Sad- If you are a ShinRan then yes, If you are an AiCon then it is probably the happiest ending you can have.

I'm not sure AiCons would really appreciate the "Conan married Ai, but really just because Ran was dead" ending that this seems to imply. :P
My problem also lies in the fact that Ran didn't have a horrible enough death.
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Re: Possible Sad Ending

Postby Akonyl » April 1st, 2011, 12:07 am

I dunno, I don't think he should really end up with Ai either, I think he should just end up with Kid :3
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Re: Possible Sad Ending

Postby ranger » April 1st, 2011, 3:08 am

Akonyl, I looked up to you...But after seeing that avatar.. *shakes head
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Re: Possible Sad Ending

Postby awriterofthings » April 1st, 2011, 7:35 pm

Shuusgirl wrote:I agree.  Well, except that The Weather Girls and James Black should be together.  ;)
I think Camel living some half-life would be far more depressing.  But why would Gosho make the ending sad?  Like, this whole time it's been just fine, not really sad at all.  I think it wouldn't just feel out of place if all the sudden it was a tragedy, I think it would be totally fake.  I don't think he'd do that to use.


The april fool's joke is making it hard for me to figure out who you are talking about. ^^; I'm trying to use my own entry as reference but it's not easy.

Let's try a test.

Shinichi - S H I N I C H I
Haibara- H A I B A R A
Conan- C O N A N
Ayumi- A Y U M I

There we go. Reference.

I never thought that Conan and Haibara should be together. Just that I'm not averse to them being together. I'm more of the opinion that it's impossible. Sort of like Ayumi with Conan. Just wouldn't happen. Ever.

Well how would that be any different if Shinichi settled for Haibara? You really think he wouldn't be living a half life then? If you lose someone that you care about, especially if they died violently- there's no real recovery from that. Maybe someday he'd return for Haibara but I don't think Haibara would take him under those circumstances. She'd feel guilty. And Ran's death would hang over them both. It wouldn't be healthy. Shinichi remaining a bachelor for the rest of his days is no sadder than him settling for Haibara. I think there would be happy days. He wouldn't be completely broken, (at least I would hope not). But I don't think their relationship could be long and healthy under the circumstances preceding their union.

Probably why I speak so strongly against this is because I did have a friend in a relationship with someone who lost a girlfriend in a violent way. Honest to god truth, his girlfriend died in a terrible car accident and he never forgot it. However he tried to carry on. He started dating a friend of mine though we eventually realized that he approached her because she "resembled" the girlfriend that he lost. This dead girlfriend constantly hung over their relationship. He was always comparing her to the one he lost. And eventually she had to break up with him.

Shinichi is so attached to Ran that I couldn't see him ever moving on after her death. At least not romantically. It's sad, for sure. But I think it's more true to his character.

However if Shinichi some day came to the realization that he would never get the cure. And Ran simply moved on (or maybe he asked her to). And then Shinichi noticed Haibara who had been by his side all the time- that would be far more acceptable to me. But he has to return her feelings and not just because he's got nothing left to lose.
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Re: Possible Sad Ending

Postby kkslider5552000 » April 2nd, 2011, 2:34 am

If Gosho wanted to have such a dark turn in the series it should have happened at 345 (...or whatever chapters it was in the manga). If a main character died in that episode (especially if it was Conan), that could justify a really dark ending if there was a rapid change in the series (or even a cliched shonen time skip for sequel series) at that point and pretty much ONLY at that point.

Since it didn't, leave dark endings to the rare good fanfictions or a "what if?" movie.
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Re: Possible Sad Ending

Postby awriterofthings » April 2nd, 2011, 2:54 pm

kkslider5552000 wrote:If Gosho wanted to have such a dark turn in the series it should have happened at 345 (...or whatever chapters it was in the manga). If a main character died in that episode (especially if it was Conan), that could justify a really dark ending if there was a rapid change in the series (or even a cliched shonen time skip for sequel series) at that point and pretty much ONLY at that point.

Since it didn't, leave dark endings to the rare good fanfictions or a "what if?" movie.


Excellent point. I agree with you completely. :)
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Re: Possible Sad Ending

Postby Akonyl » April 12th, 2011, 1:52 pm

ranger wrote:Akonyl, I looked up to you...But after seeing that avatar.. *shakes head

spirit of the day, man. D:
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Re: Possible Sad Ending

Postby wolf4537 » April 12th, 2011, 10:54 pm

Honestly, Conan/Haibara is the one couple I absolutely cannot see being together.

Hopefully if the series ever ends, it ends with Shinichi and Ran somehow. I would like to see a very dramatic ending though.
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Re: Possible Sad Ending

Postby redangelran » April 12th, 2011, 11:20 pm

haibara and conan? that's a veeeeery sad ending. i will come to hate dc if that happens..XD
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Re: Possible Sad Ending

Postby believer08 » April 13th, 2011, 12:04 am

Actually, this is not a good ending at all. I mean... anybody had follow DC for nearly 15 years to find out that, in the end, a main character die tragically... and I have to say pointless.
In addition, and now I'm giving my personal opinion, a "Shinichi ends with Ai because Ran died" ending its... unaceptable. Since the begining of the story we "know" that Shinichi will end up with Ran... I don't know HOW but, I'm sure of that.
I only wish that Gosho finish DC with the best ending ever, as great as the story is.
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Re: Possible Sad Ending

Postby JohnTitor » April 13th, 2011, 1:51 am

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Re: Possible Sad Ending

Postby Shuusgirl » April 18th, 2011, 10:13 pm

believer08 wrote:Actually, this is not a good ending at all. I mean... anybody had follow DC for nearly 15 years to find out that, in the end, a main character die tragically... and I have to say pointless.
In addition, and now I'm giving my personal opinion, a "Shinichi ends with Ai because Ran died" ending its... unaceptable. Since the begining of the story we "know" that Shinichi will end up with Ran... I don't know HOW but, I'm sure of that.
I only wish that Gosho finish DC with the best ending ever, as great as the story is.
(Sorry about my bad english :P )

Completely agree.  Making an ending sad doesn't make it good.  Usually it makes it worse because it feels forced. 
Perfect example of a really good sad ending is The Book Thief (don't worry, that's not a spoiler at all.  You know what's going to happen from the first chapter), but even that the main character didn't die.  Unless it's historical, the main character shouldn't ever die.
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ran mouri wrote:haibara and conan? that's a veeeeery sad ending. i will come to hate dc if that happens..XD

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Re: Possible Sad Ending

Postby Miyao » April 21st, 2011, 5:22 am

I think if Shinichi and Ran do not end up with each other, I will probably regret liking DC in the first place and hate it forever.  :D
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Re: Possible Sad Ending

Postby queenmisanagi » April 21st, 2011, 10:57 am

Akonyl wrote:I dunno, I don't think he should really end up with Ai either, I think he should just end up with Kid :3


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Re: Possible Sad Ending

Postby Kurunouma » April 23rd, 2011, 2:42 am

wolf4537 wrote:Honestly, Conan/Haibara is the one couple I absolutely cannot see being together.

Hopefully if the series ever ends, it ends with Shinichi and Ran somehow. I would like to see a very dramatic ending though.



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