Who would win in a fist fight...

[Officer Kaoko]

Since when did Ran know Judo?

Kogorou teach her :3

[ProfParanoia]

Since when did Ran know Judo?

Kogorou teach her :3

No, he wouldn't do that to himself, plus is he tried then he'd incompetent and quit on seconds.

[Baritsu Master]

Can anyone verify that Ran studied Judo?  it's on her character bio on Wikipedia, but I don't know which epi mentions it.

[ProfParanoia]

Can anyone verify that Ran studied Judo?  it's on her character bio on Wikipedia, but I don't know which epi mentions it.

Wiki doesn't mean much, they either don't  know what Judo is or saw her doing throws, grapples, or ect. and assumed it was Judo.

[Baritsu Master]

There's a minimum of throws and locks in karate, so if she does them, it's got to be Judo or Jiu-Jitsu,  I would think.

[doublemoonlight]

I only saw Ran kicking and punching not throwing so... no Judo for Ran I think.

[ProfParanoia]

There's a minimum of throws and locks in karate, so if she does them, it's got to be Judo or Jiu-Jitsu,  I would think.

She's done it like 2 times (maybe) and at least once in Movie 4, so no it doesn't.

[psyko_stevey_999]

It's kind of hard to pick one because the the two martial arts are opposing ideas. Karate is offensive and Aikido is defensive. If you think about the fight itself, it'd probably be alot of punches and kicks from Ran and mostly dodges, blocks and reversals from Kazuha. In that sense the fight would probably be long and arduous and in the end I'd say Ran wins because the plain and simple truth is one good kick to the head and Kazuha is out.

It would be significantly more difficult for Kazuha to deliver a finishing blow like that, given the confines of her martial art. Kazuha may keep pace with and even stump Ran for a while, but really it would just be a matter of biting her time until Kazuha presented an opening in her defense

[ProfParanoia]

It would be significantly more difficult for Kazuha to deliver a finishing blow like that, given the confines of her martial art.

Kazuha could just joint lock Ran if she wanted to end the match.

[Baritsu Master]

As founder of the Bartitsu Forum, I hope Gosho incorporates it sometime. It is the art Sherlock Holmes used to defeat Moriarty. We've given demonstrations all over the world.

[Baritsu Master]

BTW, so far, a glance at a dozen sites on the net (onetruthprevails.com, detectiveconanfanclub.com, d-conan.blogspot.com, caseclosed.wikia.com, etc) state that Kogoro was a Judo champion at Baika University, and taught it to his daughter. One claims her mother was a student, too.

[kyuuketsuki]

BTW, so far, a glance at a dozen sites on the net (onetruthprevails.com, detectiveconanfanclub.com, d-conan.blogspot.com, caseclosed.wikia.com, etc) state that Kogoro was a Judo champion at Baika University, and taught it to his daughter. One claims her mother was a student, too.

Well now, if fans say it, then it must be true! Er... Yeah...see the problem? That is merely assumed. Ran was put into Karate by Kogorou, there would be no reason for him to teach her an opposing style. He did teach Eri, though the only sighted occurrence is the single arm throw.

Also... unrelated kinda, but about your name... You do know that Baritsu is not real... right? Either that or a typo that was overlooked by the editors of The Empty House. It is possible he was referring to Bartitsu, a British art that is based on the French kicking style Savate, Western Boxing, and Jujutsu. It is in no way Japanese, save some throws and holds that were incorporated into the art to make it more dynamic. Just thought you'd like to know . If anything it is the British art of self-defense. Granted, my knowledge on Bartitsu is somewhat lacking compared to my knowledge of other Martial arts...

And thus ends my break from studying and writing letters of request for research...

[dilbertschalter]

BTW, so far, a glance at a dozen sites on the net (onetruthprevails.com, detectiveconanfanclub.com, d-conan.blogspot.com, caseclosed.wikia.com, etc) state that Kogoro was a Judo champion at Baika University, and taught it to his daughter. One claims her mother was a student, too.

Well now, if fans say it, then it must be true! Er... Yeah...see the problem? That is merely assumed. Ran was put into Karate by Kogorou, there would be no reason for him to teach her an opposing style. He did teach Eri, though the only sighted occurrence is the single arm throw.

Also... unrelated kinda, but about your name... You do know that Baritsu is not real... right? Either that or a typo that was overlooked by the editors of The Empty House. It is possible he was referring to Bartitsu, a British art that is based on the French kicking style Savate, Western Boxing, and Jujutsu. It is in no way Japanese, save some throws and holds that were incorporated into the art to make it more dynamic. Just thought you'd like to know . If anything it is the British art of self-defense. Granted, my knowledge on Bartitsu is somewhat lacking compared to my knowledge of other Martial arts...

And thus ends my break from studying and writing letters of request for research...

i think he's trying to be in character or something like that that.

[Baritsu Master]

First of all, Baritsu is the name of the art Sherlock Holmes mentions in his story, The Empty House. It is based, of course, on Bartitsu, the art created by E.W. Barton-Wright. BW trained in Japan with Jigaro Kano and others. He is the first person to import asian martial arts into the west, bringing instructors in judo and jiu-jitsu into England. The school opened in 1900, but closed only a few years later.
My group, The Bartitsu Society, resurrected the original art in 2002. We've produced two manuals and a Dvd.
I run the Bartitsu Forum, the main forum of the group. we are trying to connect to our Japanese roots and provide recognition and a grave marker for BW.
This is all OT, and I apologize for wasting the group's time.
As for the Judo connection, I haven't investigated it fully, but I'll take your word for it.
This is an awesome forum, and you all seem quite knowledgable.

[kyuuketsuki]

First of all, Baritsu is the name of the art Sherlock Holmes mentions in his story, The Empty House. It is based, of course, on Bartitsu, the art created by E.W. Barton-Wright. BW trained in Japan with Jigaro Kano and others. He is the first person to import asian martial arts into the west, bringing instructors in judo and jiu-jitsu into England. The school opened in 1900, but closed only a few years later.
My group, The Bartitsu Society, resurrected the original art in 2002. We've produced two manuals and a Dvd.
I run the Bartitsu Forum, the main forum of the group. we are trying to connect to our Japanese roots and provide recognition and a grave marker for BW.
This is all OT, and I apologize for wasting the group's time.
As for the Judo connection, I haven't investigated it fully, but I'll take your word for it.
This is an awesome forum, and you all seem quite knowledgable.

No worries. And I mentioned that it was from the Empty House, I was just stating that it is technically not the art Holmes used to defeat Moriarty. We do not know what SACD's intent was, if it was simply a reference to the actual art, or a typo, or anything else of the like.

All I was stating regarding what is under your picture is that, technically it is not the Japanese art of wrestling, but is closer to the British art of self-defense.

As for the Judo connection with Ran, I'd love to be proven wrong, but I am a stickler for evidence. People make conjecture all the time, especially with characters and their abilities. If you can find documented proof of Ran performing any Judo throw or hold, it would be awesome.