Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

[MDavid]

Okay. I've already made a guess now, I don't give another try until somebody else does.

[miikosan]

[spoiler]Dirt? (I'm thinking flowerbeds).[/spoiler]

[lucky777]

[spoiler]Dirt? (I'm thinking flowerbeds).[/spoiler]

Another good answer but not the right one

[sstimson]

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Got two possible answers

1) A dead body ( If you think of a coffin as a bed)

2) Flowers ( A bed of roses)

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[lucky777]

[spoiler]

Got two possible answers

1) A dead body ( If you think of a coffin as a bed)

2) Flowers ( A bed of roses)

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Both not the ones I'm looking for and technically some flowers do go to sleep at night.

Need a hint? There are a few possibilities for a vague riddle like this one.

[M.Holmes]

Yeah, I think you should add in a hint or expand the riddle with a few more descriptive sentences since there's just tons of possibilities as it is (i.e. Pillow, sheets, dust, flowers, an insomniac, a corpse, rocks, water, seashells, etc.).

[lucky777]

Ok update to riddle then
What lies on a bed but never wakes up?
People sometimes go there to do some sports
Usually I'm fresh
I helped Egyptians live many years ago

I hope this covers specifically what the answer is, if not I'll just post a really obvious hint

[Suutashi]

Ok update to riddle then
What lies on a bed but never wakes up?
People sometimes go there to do some sports
Usually I'm fresh
I helped Egyptians live many years ago

I hope this covers specifically what the answer is, if not I'll just post a really obvious hint

[spoiler]A river?[/spoiler]

[lucky777]

[spoiler]A river?[/spoiler]


Correct Suutashi, your turn for the next riddle

[Suutashi]

Here's mine...
I stand tall and alone at the coming of dawn, hide at mid day and blend in with the crowd during the arrival of night. What am I?

[lucky777]

Here's mine...
I stand tall and alone at the coming of dawn, hide at mid day and blend in with the crowd during the arrival of night. What am I?

[spoiler]A shadow?[/spoiler]

[Suutashi]

[spoiler]A shadow?[/spoiler]

Correct.

[lucky777]

Well i thought up an idea for a murder mystery so here ya go:

Btw it's probably better you have some knowledge of science since it'll help out a lot on what the method was

Mouri Kogorou was called in to assist in a case of a strange death. After the formal greetings with inspector Megure, he was given the facts of the case.

Daniel Caramze (the name is completely made up) was dead in his room. Marks of torture lay all over him, countless long thick iron nails have been buried into his legs (at least 30 of the nails have scratched the femur from all sides bottom to top on both femurs), arms and chest, his front side body and face was burnt leaving him unrecognizable. An autopsy was still possible as the internal body were not too damaged. On the underside of the seat of the wheelchair burnt marks were everywhere except 4 square places around the middle.

He was a disabled man from waist below according to the medical records and sleeping pill traces was found inside him.
Large nails were caught in between the gaps in the wheels so you couldn't move the wheelchair from the center of the room.

"Seems like quite a mad murderer we have here." muttered Kogorou "I assume he died of blood loss?"

"That's the problem" Megure stared hard at Kogorou eyes "We know who killed him but some of the facts just don't add up. According to our autopsy report he died of dehydration, so we assumed naturally that he was tied up and the criminal later collected the rope when he died from dehydration."
Megure gave a heavy sigh.
"But that's not the case, no rope marks or any of that kind were found. We also checked the security footage on the hallway outside to see if the criminal stayed in the room to keep and eye on him but he only visited twice with a 1 week interval."

"Perhaps the victim couldn't move because of the various injuries to him?" suggested Kogorou.

"Another strange point. All damage done to the victim except for the nails in the leg was done AFTER death. So that means the victim's hands was free, he could have crawled out of his wheelchair and gotten help yet he didn't, something stopped him and until we have a complete case the murderer will escape free due to lack of evidence."
"But isn't there anything? Any clue or such?" said Kogorou,

"There is one thing. The first time he came he carried 5 plastic boxes.
The second time the killer came to visit, he brought about the size of an a4 sheet of paper size metal box, a blowtorch and well a bottle of water"

Oh and here's a link to what the wheelchair normally looks like if you need it
http://assuredstairlifts.co.uk/images/t ... ir-med.jpg

So the questions you need to answer are:
What was the method that prevented Daniel from moving.
What was the purpose of all the damage done to him after death
What was the purpose of the metal box, blowtorch, bottle of water and sleeping pills

Any questions feel free to ask in pm

[MDavid]

Since the topic is stalling, i post my random deductions and guesses so far. I am far from solving it. Maybe we can find it out together! Please help pointing out mistakes and so.

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Culprit

The wheelchair can't be moved by the person sitting in it. It is the kind they use in hospitals and nursing homes. Anyway, the victim must have had a helper to take care of him all the time. Probably that person is the culprit. Otherwise the murderer's preparations and the victim's state would have been discovered over the one week.

Death

We know that the victim died after the first visit of the culprit. The cause is dehydration. Third-degree burns can cause dehydration, but the victim was burned after death. So the victim dried. If no reachable supplies were left for the victim, the culprit did know that he is already dead by the second visit.

Moving

The victim had paraplegia, but his arms were free to move. If he didn't move from the chair, the possible reasons are he was physically stopped, he was threatened or it would be too dangerous. But near death it is inevitable that he leaves the chair if it is possible. The culprit should know that. Simple verbal threats wouldn't prevent the victim from moving for long enough time. If the victim left the chair early then he didn't know that something will stop him when he is on the floor. If the victim left the chair near death then he did know that something would have stopped him when he is on the floor. If the victim stayed in the chair all the time then he was physically stopped and traces of it were hidden by burning the skin.

Burn marks

Assuming the burning had some purpose, it must have been done to mislead the investigation or more likely to hide something. Evidence, the method of stopping the victim or a dying message. The only kind of dying message that could be left is some clue about the culprit scratched in the skin. Probably the blowtorch was used to hide that something. Strong electricity would cause internal burns too and not large surface burns only. There would be traces of it if some kind of acid or lye casued it.

Sleeping pill

It is possible that powderized sleeping pill was injected in him by the nails. But if only one sleeping pill was used, it is more likely that the culprit made the victim swallow the sleeping pill at his first visit before setting up the scene.

Iron nails

It would make no sense to hammer the nails into the victims leg. Also, the scratches show that it wasn't some precise work. An explosion could do that, but the burning happened after death and it would make too much noise etc. Maybe the victim fall out of the chair into the nails. We know that the nails got into him while he was alive. It must happened shortly before death, otherwise he would have died of blood loss or crawled to get help.

Bottle of water

The cuplrit having to bring a bottle of water means that he couldn't use the water in the house. Is it possible that the faucet was already used in the crime? Or he wanted to dissolve some evidence and traces of it could have been found in the pipes later.

5 plastic boxes



Metal box



Blowtorch

It seems logical that the burnings were done with the blowtorch.

Not burned parts on wheelchair

4 square-shaped possibly fireproof things were protecting the surface. Some kind of duct tape?

Story

At the first visit the culprit entered the room and made the victim swallow the sleeping pill. After the victim fell asleep he set up the scene. He put nails in the wheels of the wheelchair to prevent it from moving...
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[sstimson]

A crazy theory

[spoiler] The victim might have been mummy wrapped from the waist up. This would be like tied up, but without the rope burns.
After the victim was dead, the wrapping was burned away[/spoiler]