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Re: DC Opening 30

Postby AICHAN » January 8th, 2011, 11:09 am

bluekaitou1412 wrote:The OP's ridiculous. They included KID on his own sequence but not Ai/BO? What's up with that?!


yeah,seems like KID is an major character compared to Ai and BO in their mind... ::)
I don't like this OP...
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Re: DC Opening 30

Postby Kor » January 8th, 2011, 11:09 am

Jd- wrote:Weeeell... it's definitely the worst opening to date.


Before I watched the OP, I got a glimpse from this. So I thought "nah, it can't be that bad", and I was wrong.......big time.

Yeah, we had OPs without the B.O. before.........and we had the first few OPs without Haibara and the other later introduced characters. And I wouldn't mind DBless OPs.........but.......we didn't have Kogoro in this OP, yet we did have Kaito Kid.
Even at the end where they show Sonoko, the DB, the main trio, Agasa, Takagi and Megure - this picture would have worked perfectly.........................if it was in an OP sometime between episodes 129 and 200.

Then there is the dance. When I saw it, I was like "Oh my ****ing God". After I watched the OP for the second time, I realized how could this OP have been excused in some way. If at the second dancing sequence, characters started appearing and dancing too, it would have been hillarious (imagine Gin and Vodka dancing the dance). Yeah, it would still suck, but still it would be funny and not suicide-encouraging (plus, the OP for what it is, is already ridiculous, if they made even more ridiculous, we wouldn't have noticed.

CONAN RAN CONAN RAN CONAN shinichi RAN CONAN RAN DANCING (wait, Kaito?) CONAN RAN CONAN RAN DANCING  CONAN RAN CONAN!!!!!!!!!!!

For what it is, the best thing I can call it is "anti-new audience". The OP gives us NOTHING about the plot or the many interesting characters of the series. It only gives us the relationship between Conan and Ran, a dancing sequence and Kaito Kid. It doesn't give any real reason why someone who have never seen the show, should start watching it.
Imagine what a kid who have never seen the show before might think if he saw this (this can actually be a good fanfiction, as long as you throw out everything detective related and just use what you see in the OP, including or not the dancing girl)

Yes, it's a long series and this is the 15th year, and perhaps new audience would be discouraged to try to get into it, but the studio seems like it doesn't even want new viewers if this is what they do. Conan is a series with a status quo, which has stayed pretty much the same for 15 years. It's not a hard series to get into and you only need to watch about 10 episodes to understand the story overall and another 10-20 to understand where the story stands at the moment. If you have such show, why to make such an uninteresting (and bad) OP?

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Re: DC Opening 30

Postby Kaia » January 8th, 2011, 11:10 am

Silver1412 wrote:Stop! Thanks to you I got a vision of Gin dancing.  :o A horrible sight.


How did you come to that idea? O_O
However, I have to agree. I can pass on that.
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Re: DC Opening 30

Postby Silver1412 » January 8th, 2011, 11:14 am

Kaia wrote:
Silver1412 wrote:Stop! Thanks to you I got a vision of Gin dancing.  :o A horrible sight.


How did you come to that idea? O_O
However, I have to agree. I can pass on that.

Cause he said something about changing dancing! And another characters. So I had a vision of another characters dancing! Weird, huh? That's what you get when you don't understand the language completely!
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Re: DC Opening 30

Postby AICHAN » January 8th, 2011, 11:18 am

Kor wrote:
Jd- wrote:Weeeell... it's definitely the worst opening to date.


Before I watched the OP, I got a glimpse from this. So I thought "nah, it can't be that bad", and I was wrong.......big time.

Yeah, we had OPs without the B.O. before.........and we had the first few OPs without Haibara and the other later introduced characters. And I wouldn't mind DBless OPs.........but.......we didn't have Kogoro in this OP, yet we did have Kaito Kid.
Even at the end where they show Sonoko, the DB, the main trio, Agasa, Takagi and Megure - this picture would have worked perfectly.........................if it was in an OP sometime between episodes 129 and 200.

Then there is the dance. When I saw it, I was like "Oh my ****ing God". After I watched the OP for the second time, I realized how could this OP have been excused in some way. If at the second dancing sequence, characters started appearing and dancing too, it would have been hillarious (imagine Gin and Vodka dancing the dance). Yeah, it would still suck, but still it would be funny and not suicide-encouraging (plus, the OP for what it is, is already ridiculous, if they made even more ridiculous, we wouldn't have noticed.

CONAN RAN CONAN RAN CONAN shinichi RAN CONAN RAN DANCING (wait, Kaito?) CONAN RAN CONAN RAN DANCING  CONAN RAN CONAN!!!!!!!!!!!

For what it is, the best thing I can call it is "anti-new audience". The OP gives us NOTHING about the plot or the many interesting characters of the series. It only gives us the relationship between Conan and Ran, a dancing sequence and Kaito Kid. It doesn't give any real reason why someone who have never seen the show, should start watching it.
Imagine what a kid who have never seen the show before might think if he saw this (this can actually be a good fanfiction, as long as you throw out everything detective related and just use what you see in the OP, including or not the dancing girl)

Yes, it's a long series and this is the 15th year, and perhaps new audience would be discouraged to try to get into it, but the studio seems like it doesn't even want new viewers if this is what they do. Conan is a series with a status quo, which has stayed pretty much the same for 15 years. It's not a hard series to get into and you only need to watch about 10 episodes to understand the story overall and another 10-20 to understand where the story stands at the moment. If you have such show, why to make such an uninteresting (and bad) OP?


that's exactly what I think...^^

and who is that girl dancing in the OP ???
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Re: DC Opening 30

Postby Misztina » January 8th, 2011, 11:22 am

Probably one of teh Caos, caos, caos girls. They danced like that in their music clip. By the way the music is rubbish too. Even Free Magic durprasses the musical quality of this... this... thing.

Now I know why the title is Teardrops. Everyone is crying how could they have done something like this to the opening. T_T
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Re: DC Opening 30

Postby Silver1412 » January 8th, 2011, 11:23 am

So true... Wait! The they gave such lame song such awesome name?! NO FAIR!
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Re: DC Opening 30

Postby Wakarimashita » January 8th, 2011, 12:25 pm

I don't understand those who want all (or at least almost all) the characters to appear in every single opening, even if it's for one second. What is the point of putting the BO in an opening when you know they're not going to appear for God knows how long ? Same goes with the police, why should Takagi and Sato appear despite being almost useless since they've kissed (hence almost 70 episodes ago) ? Shin/ConanxRan being the official couple, I don't see the problem with them having an entire opening for themselves (as long as it doesn't happen all the time)
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especially with the White Day Case coming up. I'm not a fan of Kaito Kid but his presence in this opening can be explained since a case with him is also coming soon.


The only characters which are really missing are Kogoro, Agasa and the Detective Boys and maybe Megure (they still appear at the end so it's not that bad). All the others are not characters which have a role significant enough in terms of episodes for them to appear in every single opening.

Ok, the dancing part is a bit stupid (I think it's hilarious seeing that girl make a heart with her fingers, it's so kitsch) and I guess it could have been replaced with canon sequences, but other than that, I don't see the problem in terms of content.
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Re: DC Opening 30

Postby Jd- » January 8th, 2011, 12:48 pm

My problem isn't even with the lack of other characters showing up (although it makes the series look fairly shallow with only a few making an appearance and one that makes no sense)--it's that it's budget-produced, uninspired, and vapid on levels we have rarely seen. The dancing is just embarrassing, and if that were the only problem, it wouldn't be so bad (it'd still rank it very low, but it may have avoided being the worst to date if so). Unfortunately, it's just one of a plethora of issues.

The Conan OP/EDs have always been of at least acceptable if not relatively high production value. Effort went into them, and some of them maintained a distinct visual style throughout. In this OP, the color mixing is atrocious and all over the place. I'm not surprised something this poor went out, as they have let some remarkably poor animation go out over the past few years in the actual episodes themselves.

This is all not even considering how bad a song it is in the first place. Unfortunately for "Caos Caos Caos", the Conan anime team did them no favors.
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Re: DC Opening 30

Postby kentasaiba » January 8th, 2011, 12:50 pm

bluekaitou1412 wrote:The OP's ridiculous. They included KID on his own sequence but not Ai/BO? What's up with that?!

There is no nead for the BO in this season.


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Re: DC Opening 30

Postby Puto » January 8th, 2011, 1:13 pm

Song is crap, animation isn't much better. Still, for anyone who might actually like it, have some romanised lyrics...

ai no toki mita sô flashback shita hutoshita shunkan anata o kanjita
kokoro no shutter orikaketa no ni yûhi ni ukan da anata no kao
Why why why wakatteru no ni ienakatta
Lie lie soba ni ite hoshî I want your love
tear drops sô desho kizuiteirun ja nai?
tear drops sô desho naiteirun ja nai
tear drops sô desho zutto wasurenai ai
tear drops tear drops kono nazo toite tear drops
nani ga ahurete sukoshi suneo ni nareta no kanatte
hoshizora ni I believe, forever my dream
sotto tear drops
tear drops sô desho kizuiteirun ja nai?
tear drops sô desho naiteirun ja nai
tear drops sô desho kore ga saigo no koi
tear drops tear drops anata dake ni tear drops
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Re: DC Opening 30

Postby Kaia » January 8th, 2011, 1:43 pm

The music is not something I like that much either. However, I am not going to say that it is bad or the like. If I judge the song as a sole existence, then it is fine. I can get use to the song. However, I doubt that I am going to like the song as a Detective Conan opening.

It is not like I want everyone to appear in one opening. It is fine if it was only Edogawa and Mouri. I could live with that too. However, not in such an animation. I really have just the feeling that they threw Kaito Kid into that opening because they run out of ideas.
I just said that seeing everyone, each character for one second (which is also not the best thing to do), is better than this dancing show.
Really... If I had seen only the dancing part, I would have not believed that it belonged to the show without those 'Detective Conan advertisement bar' on the sides.

It is not like I hate dancing shows, but... Not in Detective Conan please. If it was a case about a dancing group or something the like, then I have no problem with that. One or two minutes dancing, then the usual episode stuff. If the dance is not watch-able, then I could still say 'It is only one episode. I do not need to watch it again when I do not like it'. However, in an opening?
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Re: DC Opening 30

Postby Wakarimashita » January 8th, 2011, 2:11 pm

Jd- wrote:My problem isn't even with the lack of other characters showing up (although it makes the series look fairly shallow with only a few making an appearance and one that makes no sense)--it's that it's budget-produced, uninspired, and vapid on levels we have rarely seen. The dancing is just embarrassing, and if that were the only problem, it wouldn't be so bad (it'd still rank it very low, but it may have avoided being the worst to date if so). Unfortunately, it's just one of a plethora of issues.

The Conan OP/EDs have always been of at least acceptable if not relatively high production value. Effort went into them, and some of them maintained a distinct visual style throughout. In this OP, the color mixing is atrocious and all over the place. I'm not surprised something this poor went out, as they have let some remarkably poor animation go out over the past few years in the actual episodes themselves.

This is all not even considering how bad a song it is in the first place. Unfortunately for "Caos Caos Caos", the Conan anime team did them no favors.


I'll hand it to you, the opening is sloppy and not as fluid as it should be, however we've had openings as bad, or at least nearly as bad, as this one in the past (you mentioned "Giri Giri Chop" which is one of them). I'll start getting worried if all the openings follow the same path, but as of now, I don't think we should fret. Same thing goes for the episodes, ugly Conan episodes have been produced regularly in the past 15 years, thankfully there's lots of nice looking ones as well.

Maybe the team thought it was "Chaos Chaos Chaos" ?  :P
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Re: DC Opening 30

Postby cashman_11 » January 8th, 2011, 2:33 pm

I actually don't mind the song, but the animation itself seems like a shameless plug for Caos, Caos, Caos. I like the idea of having the characters dance, similar to thrill, shock, suspence. It's rather dub to have some girl who isn't part of the anime dancing for half the OP.
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Re: DC Opening 30

Postby kkslider5552000 » January 8th, 2011, 2:34 pm

Jd- wrote:There are five "scenes" in total in the ED, and they're all just loops of a few frames with cherry blossoms falling/Conan aimlessly running (though there's one part that's a little cringe-worthy). It has to be some of the laziest work they've ever done.

I dunno, that sounds like 95% of EDs ever (since EDs usually suck).
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