Kleene Onigiri wrote:Just because Ran doesn't (fully/always) knows that Conan = Shinichi doesn't mean that Shinichi/Conan doesn't know it's Ran. So it still counts as a interaction (for me at least)
If it´s so for you, ok. I think it´s different cause Ran´s reaction would be different either if she knew Conan = Shinichi.
For example 1:
Her confession that she loves Shinichi
She told that Conan (out of blue with no real reason, but whatever) cause he´s a little kid and it´s "okay" to tell a child such serious things she doesn´t share with ehr parents/Sonoko. It was her "little secret" with Conan who will now live with her.
Later we get to see her first suspicion that Conan is Shinichi, she rememberd her "confession" and bam- we get to see a totally different reaction of her towards it. Now it was embarressing, she didn´t mean it like that, he shouldn´t think of it the wrong way etc. All things she never thought when Conan was Conan for her.
Example 2:
The bath they had together (tsstss, Shinichi you perv XD)
Again, it was "okay" and "normal" cause Conan is a little child and he doesn´t care about such things like a naked woman body...
Later we get another suspicion of her that Conan is Shinichi. What happend? Her reaction was different again. Not only was she embarressed, she was about to kill him too (not that i wouldn´t do the same thing if i were in her shoes
).
So for me it´s important that both knows who who is. That sounds so funny right now.
Schillok wrote:Noone escapes my watchful eyes. :D
Verdammt!
And i thought this time i will survive for sure!
*makes a Matrix move in slow time version to escape bullets*
Schillok wrote:Don't worry, I won't kill anyone.
*lands on his...*
WUUT?
OM... you´ve got hired killers?
Don´t tell me... it´s the Plot killer bunnies!?!
Schillok wrote:I need you around when Ayumi x Conan will happen in the end so you all have to admit I was right all the time. ;D
..........Ooooooooookkkhhhhhhhhhhaaaaayyyyy.... i would say, you had enough cookies for today, Sir. How about a glass water to cool down a bit? It´s on the house.^^
Schillok wrote:Back to topic... even I think that other pairings beside Shinichi x Ran have a chance, even though I don't think any these other pairings will succeed. But that makes supporting your very own favorite one even more interesting...
True that, true that.^g^
Still, this
chance and all the possible possibilities with it (XDDD) makes those other pairings more interesting then Ranichi.
Schillok wrote:Can't we have a miracle antidote that creates 3 versions of the main character: a Shinichi for Ran, a Shinichi/Conan for Ai/Shiho and a Conan for Ayumi? Then all the fangroups could be happy. :P
I´m sure i read such a fanfic somewhere.
Schillok wrote:As said before: I can't (and will not) put chances in numbers. But I think Ayumis chances with Conan are better than Ais.
Really, Sir! You had enough cookies! No need to kill your sorrow over the impossibility of a AyumixConan-ending with Cookies!
Sir. I knew very well how you feel, i was the same not long ago, though it was about a different pairing, i had the same delusion like you. But i´ve overcome it, not with cookies though it was my first way to deal with it too, but with
HOPE!
There will always be another manga, another pairing worthy to support at the horizont! You just have to keep your eyes and most important,
your heart open...
Also all the cookies makes 200$, Sir. Do you want to pay with cash or do you have a credit card?
Schillok wrote:But we were pretty close to it before...
And even if it happened at some time, I bet they would be busy surviving. No time for "romantic moments" that some people here wish for.
When? I don´t remember a Shinichi and Shiho case with the BO.
Well, i don´t care for "romantic moments" between Shinichi and Shiho ala Ranichi:
"When will you come back to me? Sniff sniff"
"I have no idea, no plan and sure no problem to not tell you the truth why i go away each time i see you without explaining myself. Just keep yourself fresh and rosy and don´t **** with other guys wjile i´m away, i have an eye on you."
"Oh, you my wonderful, dreamy, perfect hero! Schmacht Schmacht"
(okay, that was the twillight version, but it´s almost near the original
)
I just want to see their interaction, their bickering, their comments at each other when they are in their real form and not in their childs bodys!!!
(sure a bit ecchin between them would be nice too, just imaging the certain bath room scene we had no long time ago, but this time in their old bodys... oh boy...
We need a nosebleed smiley! Who´s with me?)
Schillok wrote:And the Ai x Conan moments have a meaning despite Conan having no idea that Haibara is having romantic feelinsg for him? (Which I don't think she has, as said numerous times before.)
How are these two types of one-sidedness any different? Because Conans feelings for Ran are genuine.
Excuse me?
When did i wrote that "moments" always have to be around "romantic stuff"? Cause if that´s the way you think, you really need a lot of cookies to keep your delusion ahead cause Ayumi had also no "romantic moments" ala Ranichi.
Moments aren´t something special cause all the charas knows about all the feelings about the other one (even Shinichi doesn´t understand/know all emotions Ran has (Thank god for that
)), they special cause the readers see them as important/interesting/funny/nice/cute/yeah and romantic moments. But that´s cause each of them sees the world of DC different then another one:
For one Ai has feelings for Conan and keep them for herself, for the other one she hasn´t.
For one Ai is a cool and awesome chara, worthy to support, for another one she´s a cold, heartless bitch and should just die already.
For one Ran is a crybaby and dumb to wait for someone who left her in the dark for so long, for others she´s a kind and full with wild emotion girl, waiting faithfully for her loved one.
And so one.
Cause of that, each see moments differently, for some moments when Ai and Conan has their usually bickering, it´s a moment cause they want to see it and cause they feel good inside when they read it, others see moments when Ran sees Shinichi after some time again and it´s hard for her to keep her tears in cause his image has such a strong impact on her heart.
Etc. etc. etc......
Same goes for you, Schillok.
So don´t come with the whole "one-sidedness" to me like you´re soooo intelligent (and smug
) and saying that one-sided feelings don´t count! >:( (at least that was what i read out of it, and i´m pissed of this interpretation)
If you do think so, how can you support AyumixConan after all? I don´t see Conan dragging her in a dark corner and making out with her so far. Did you?
All i see is that he see her as a kid, a child who knows nothing about the real, hard world and who got in his POV only "a small crush" on him which is not worthy to even worry about that he might break her heart sometimes.
Ayumis and Ai/Shihos feeling are as geniue as Conan/Shinichi ones! They may be one-sided and ignored/not noticed, but that doesn´t mean that they are on a lesser level of love as Conan/Shinichi one cause his is mutal since chapter 2.
Woah, i defeading Ayumi (and Ai) before Schillok... the world has come to an end.... two years to early... even the apocalypse doesn´t respect time anymore. -.-"
