The Detective Conan Movie 15 Thread (No Spoilers!)

[Tegari]

The movie I'd love to see is one in which Conan is with Kogoro and Ran (and maybe others, but not Heiji, Agasa or Ai) and he loses his memory.  Not knowing who he is, he believes everyone when they say he's just a kid, and goes on living as such... except he slowly starts to realize that he knows things no kid should know, and he's able to deduce things no kid should be able to.  Perhaps all the while, the BO are bearing down on Ai and Agasa, and he has to somehow get his memories back and save them!

Thats something id want to see. For realz.

Also the flashback movie with Shinichis family and such wud be awesome too.

[ProfParanoia]

The movie I'd love to see is one in which Conan is with Kogoro and Ran (and maybe others, but not Heiji, Agasa or Ai) and he loses his memory.

You really wanna play the memory loss card again?

@The Ai Movie: I don't think you could make a 2 hour movie about Ai without BO or very OOC motivation. Even then it would would probably take very annoying turns.

[Tegari]

You really wanna play the memory loss card again?

Losing memory is something that id like to happen to myself.
Oh the joy~

[alicetama]

The movie I'd love to see is one in which Conan is with Kogoro and Ran (and maybe others, but not Heiji, Agasa or Ai) and he loses his memory.  Not knowing who he is, he believes everyone when they say he's just a kid, and goes on living as such... except he slowly starts to realize that he knows things no kid should know, and he's able to deduce things no kid should be able to.  Perhaps all the while, the BO are bearing down on Ai and Agasa, and he has to somehow get his memories back and save them!

That. Would be. Awesome. It would be really cool too for an AO ending, if they don't adapt the manga ending. (And chances are they won't.)

[ProfParanoia]

You really wanna play the memory loss card again?

Losing memory is something that id like to happen to myself.

It did happen, just to someone else.

[alicetama]

You really wanna play the memory loss card again?

Losing memory is something that id like to happen to myself.

It did happen, just to someone else.

Yeah, but in Conan's case, it will be interesting. I would also like to see Amnesia Conan having a little crush on Ayumi.(Since he wouldn't remember that he's really 17 trapped in a 7 year-old's body. )

[ProfParanoia]

Yeah, but in Conan's case, it will be interesting. I would also like to see Amnesia Conan having a little crush on Ayumi.(Since he wouldn't remember that he's really 17 trapped in a 7 year-old's body. )

In movies of shows, a main character losing their memory (and having humor ensue) then gaining it back at the perfect time to save the day is not only a giant cliche in general, It's been done in a Conan movie. Using it again is just silly, and having him regain it through adrenaline would mean it would have to happen under a very short period of time, and there would need to be an excuse to have 0 Ai in the whole thing.

[Tegari]

You really wanna play the memory loss card again?

Losing memory is something that id like to happen to myself.

It did happen, just to someone else.

Yeah, but in Conan's case, it will be interesting. I would also like to see Amnesia Conan having a little crush on Ayumi.(Since he wouldn't remember that he's really 17 trapped in a 7 year-old's body. )

Yeah, in Conans case it wud be much moar interesting.
I dont think hed have a crush on Ayumi, cuz if hed have the sharp mind he does, then Ayumi is a bit too childrish for him.
Hed maybe get a crush on Ran without knowing that hes rlly 17 and be all confused and shes too old for her. ~giggle~

Btw, in the link that was posted earlier, where was a post about the movie, they had it pointed out which character/voice actors will be in the movie.
Cuz of the fail google translate i wasnt able to find out who some of the characters were. (post was in chinese, so different names or something)

Spoiler:

DB will be innit, Ai ofc, most known officers from Tokyo, Agasa, Sonoko, Heiji.
It doesnt seem like Kazuha wud be innit. No BO either.
Though id mention it, cuz no1 did. owo

[c-square]

The movie I'd love to see is one in which Conan is with Kogoro and Ran (and maybe others, but not Heiji, Agasa or Ai) and he loses his memory.

You really wanna play the memory loss card again?

Yeah, I know that they did it before, but I feel this is different because it would add a unique spin on the series.  Since the very beginning, Conan has always been in control.  Confident, cocky and sure, he's always been a main actor in every case, figuring out what's going on before everyone else and taking preemptive and direct action to solve the case and protect those around him.   He's the hero, the protector, the one in charge.

As great as that is, it would be nice to see the rug pulled out from under Conan every once in a while.  Put him in a situation that he gets caught up in as much as anyone else.  Make him vulnerable for a change.  They did it for the briefest of time in OVA 9, and that's what made that story so great.  They put him in a situation that he couldn't solve just by thinking it through.  That made him weak, and by doing so, forced him to develop his character.  I'd love to see more of that in Conan, over a longer story arc than just an OVA.  IMHO, him forgetting about being Shinichi, forgetting about the BO and truly believing that he's just a kid would be an excellent way of doing it.

For me, Conan is kind of like Superman.  Superman is invincible physically, while Conan is invincible mentally.  But it starts to become a little stale if you know that no matter what happens, there's no situation that stands a chance against the hero's strength.  Sometimes you need to add a little kryptonite to challenge your hero, and so far, there's been no real kryptonite equivalent for Conan.

And besides,

Spoiler: for all AiCon fans

a loss of memory would be a great chance for Conan to develop and express feelings for Ai.  For example, Conan (thinking he's just a kid), ends up being captured and taken to the same place as Ai.  He sees her, and is startled by the familiarity.  "Do I know you?" he asks.  What does she say?  Does she tell him the truth, and if so, how much?  With his memories gone, she could say that she's his girlfriend, or just not say anything at all with the hopes that they could just grow up again together.  Or does she care so much about him that she'll tell him the truth?  See, character building all around!!

[ProfParanoia]

As great as that is, it would be nice to see the rug pulled out from under Conan every once in a while.  Put him in a situation that he gets caught up in as much as anyone else.  Make him vulnerable for a change.  They did it for the briefest of time in OVA 9, and that's what made that story so great.  They put him in a situation that he couldn't solve just by thinking it through.  That made him weak, and by doing so, forced him to develop his character.  I'd love to see more of that in Conan, over a longer story arc than just an OVA.  IMHO, him forgetting about being Shinichi, forgetting about the BO and truly believing that he's just a kid would be an excellent way of doing it.

He wouldn't realizes this, he probably wouldn't even want to help solve the case (unless it comes naturally). Also, he'd have to lose his memory off of something so he'd be taken home/bed ridden. You'd also have to bank off of the characters never contacting Agasa ever.

[c-square]

He wouldn't realizes this, he probably wouldn't even want to help solve the case (unless it comes naturally). Also, he'd have to lose his memory off of something so he'd be taken home/bed ridden. You'd also have to bank off of the characters never contacting Agasa ever.

It'd be easy to say that case solving comes naturally to Conan, curiosity is truly part of his personality.  He may be bed ridden for a few days, but they'd probably have him start to go to familiar places, such as staying at the Mouri detective agency, going to school with the DB.  And they'd try to contact Agasa, but find his place ransacked and Agasa missing!  And Ai doesn't make it to school either!!  As the police comb over Agasa's lab for clues to his disappearance, the DB insist on doing their own investigation, and drag Conan along, thus beginning the adventure.

[ProfParanoia]

He wouldn't realizes this, he probably wouldn't even want to help solve the case (unless it comes naturally). Also, he'd have to lose his memory off of something so he'd be taken home/bed ridden. You'd also have to bank off of the characters never contacting Agasa ever.

It'd be easy to say that case solving comes naturally to Conan, curiosity is truly part of his personality.  He may be bed ridden for a few days, but they'd probably have him start to go to familiar places, such as staying at the Mouri detective agency, going to school with the DB. And they'd try to contact Agasa, but find his place ransacked and Agasa missing!  And Ai doesn't make it to school either!!  As the police comb over Agasa's lab for clues to his disappearance, the DB insist on doing their own investigation, and drag Conan along, thus beginning the adventure.

Well, I can see kidnapping Agasa but talking a small child with you is something most people really wouldn't have much motivation for. Next, this would again bank on Conan being harmed and de-memory'ed right when Agasa and Ai are kidnapped or just before, and bank on the hope Ai and Agasa can't contact the badge in time.

Nest, you mention how it would be good for AiCon, but not is she's never in the movie.

[Tegari]

U have interestong ideas c-square. o-o
Wanna write the next movies script ? owo

[c-square]

Well, I can see kidnapping Agasa but talking a small child with you is something most people really wouldn't have much motivation for. Next, this would again bank on Conan being harmed and de-memory'ed right when Agasa and Ai are kidnapped or just before, and bank on the hope Ai and Agasa can't contact the badge in time.

The BO would definitely have motivation to take both Agasa and Ai.  How about this: A BO investigator (let's call her Brandy) has figured out that someone has accessed the BO servers from Agasa's computer.  Brandy approaches Agasa's place, but Conan intervenes to stop her.  Brandy disables Conan and, not having the heart to kill a kid who she thinks is just protecting his friend, force feeds Conan a tonic that causes memory loss.  She then proceeds to kidnap Agasa and Ai, and trash his house while gathering clues on what they know about the BO.  Conan wakes up with memory loss, and Agasa and Ai are gone.

Nest, you mention how it would be good for AiCon, but not is she's never in the movie.

She'd be in the movie, for sure, just not until the second half.  Conan eventually makes it to where Ai is being kept, though he still doesn't know who she or Agasa are.  He just knows they're people in trouble, and he is pushed by his natural instincts to protect innocents.  Ai plays a major role in bringing back Conan's memories, however she's conflicted as to how much of his memories to return.  Perhaps she starts by just revealing what he needs to know to get them out, but soon she realizes she has the opportunity to change his memories so that he falls for her instead of Ran.  She does this, and he trusts her and truly starts to build feelings for her.  But can she live with herself knowing what she's done?  Is a relationship based on a lie really worth having?  In the end, she finds she cares too much for him to lie anymore.  She tells him the truth, saying that she lied because she was scared.  Though his feelings for Ran return, and he's upset for being lied to, the feelings he had for Ai remain as well, thus adding conflict to Conan's heart.

Whaddya think?

[ProfParanoia]

Well, I can see kidnapping Agasa but talking a small child with you is something most people really wouldn't have much motivation for. Next, this would again bank on Conan being harmed and de-memory'ed right when Agasa and Ai are kidnapped or just before, and bank on the hope Ai and Agasa can't contact the badge in time.

The BO would definitely have motivation to take both Agasa and Ai.  How about this: A BO investigator (let's call her Brandy) has figured out that someone has accessed the BO servers from Agasa's computer.  Brandy approaches Agasa's place, but Conan intervenes to stop her.  Brandy disables Conan and, not having the heart to kill a kid who she thinks is just protecting his friend, force feeds Conan a tonic that causes memory loss.  She then proceeds to kidnap Agasa and Ai, and trash his house while gathering clues on what they know about the BO.  Conan wakes up with memory loss, and Agasa and Ai are gone.

So:
A. Brandy is okay with kidnapping Ai, but Conan? No I feel bad for him.
B. The BO wouldn't just kill Ai/Agasa.

Nest, you mention how it would be good for AiCon, but not is she's never in the movie.

She'd be in the movie, for sure, just not until the second half.  Conan eventually makes it to where Ai is being kept, though he still doesn't know who she or Agasa are.  He just knows they're people in trouble, and he is pushed by his natural instincts to protect innocents.  Ai plays a major role in bringing back Conan's memories, however she's conflicted as to how much of his memories to return.  Perhaps she starts by just revealing what he needs to know to get them out, but soon she realizes she has the opportunity to change his memories so that he falls for her instead of Ran.  She does this, and he trusts her and truly starts to build feelings for her.  But can she live with herself knowing what she's done?  Is a relationship based on a lie really worth having?  In the end, she finds she cares too much for him to lie anymore.  She tells him the truth, saying that she lied because she was scared.  Though his feelings for Ran return, and he's upset for being lied to, the feelings he had for Ai remain as well, thus adding conflict to Conan's heart.

Whaddya think?

C. A better reason would just be the kids mention how he did know them and they could probably help with his memory problems.
D. That makes Ai sound like a horrible, horrible person.