DC Specials Contest: 304 vs 345

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Which is the better episode?

Poll runs till April 20th, 2051, 5:16 pm

304 (12 Million Hostages)
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45%
345 (Head to Head with the BO)
21
55%
 
Total votes: 38
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DC Specials Contest: 304 vs 345

Postby dilbertschalter » August 24th, 2010, 1:08 pm

In the last faceoff, we saw 356 beat 263 by a fairly narrow margin. This time, we have a marquee matchup of sorts- two very popular 2 hour specials (technically, one 2 hour and one 2.5 hour special):

Episode 304: Trembling Metropolitan Police Headquarters, 12 Million Hostages

vs

Episode 345: Head to Head Matchup with the Black Organization, Two Mysteries Night of the Full Moon (Part 1)*

Episode 345: Part 2*

*The Episode only has one part, but (afaik) because of Megaupload size restrictions the download is split into two parts.

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Re: DC Specials Contest: 304 vs 345

Postby Commi-Ninja » August 24th, 2010, 1:10 pm

Tough choice!

Basically.... Matsuda v. Akai.

I don't like this decision, but I have to stick with Akai.
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Re: DC Specials Contest: 304 vs 345

Postby Holmes » August 24th, 2010, 1:14 pm

Wow, this is really tough ... I really want to vote 345 but 304 gains my vote. Although 345 is excellent and explains a lot of things, plus a lot of "action" and the appearance of Vermouth (L); 304 was intense, shocking ,emotional and breathtaking till the end. Also "Conan-kun ... who are you?", "I will tell you, ... when we go to the other world." (sth like that)
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Re: DC Specials Contest: 304 vs 345

Postby dilbertschalter » August 24th, 2010, 1:20 pm

Not an easy decision for at all, but I'm going with 304. It was one of the first subbed episodes I watched and it was, after Desperate Revival, the episode/arc that solidified my obsession with DC. Some of the action is a bit 'stretched', but the same can be said about most BO episodes 345 included. It is has one of (to me any) the most memorable moments in all of DC- the, "I'll tell you... on the other side", which is both profound and (later on) funny.

345 is obviously fantastic, but I have one major quibble (har) with it that pushes it slightly below 304: Ran's involvement comes pretty darn close to invalidating the logic used to not kill her. She comes within a few inches of death or very serious injury and yet Shinichi keeps up the facade almost as though no developments have occurred.
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Re: DC Specials Contest: 304 vs 345

Postby pofa » August 24th, 2010, 4:31 pm

If it were any other special, even Desperate Revival, etc, I would go with 304, because it was really, really good. But I think 345 is better. :P
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Re: DC Specials Contest: 304 vs 345

Postby nomemory » August 24th, 2010, 4:34 pm

I had to think really hard on this one, mostly cause my memory fails but I went with 304 in the end.
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Re: DC Specials Contest: 304 vs 345

Postby Dus » August 24th, 2010, 4:36 pm

Tough choice, but 304 is just unique and Matsuda is one helluva character.
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Re: DC Specials Contest: 304 vs 345

Postby Wakarimashita » August 24th, 2010, 4:38 pm

I'm going with 345, though I find 304 excellent.
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Re: DC Specials Contest: 304 vs 345

Postby arielrachel0527 » August 24th, 2010, 5:01 pm

Hardest decision ever!!! I LOVE BOTH!! But I'll go with 345.
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Re: DC Specials Contest: 304 vs 345

Postby dilbertschalter » August 24th, 2010, 5:21 pm

4v4 in posts, but 5v7 in votes :(.
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Re: DC Specials Contest: 304 vs 345

Postby Akonyl » August 24th, 2010, 5:33 pm

Let's go with 304, here.

345 is awesome, but I feel like it'll be a boring contest if 345 just shoots to first place without any competition.
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Re: DC Specials Contest: 304 vs 345

Postby Grawwbear » August 24th, 2010, 5:45 pm

Matsuda case ftw.
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Re: DC Specials Contest: 304 vs 345

Postby alicetama » August 24th, 2010, 5:59 pm

So tough, but... I choose episode 304. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. Also, Conan defusing a bomb ftw. xD
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Re: DC Specials Contest: 304 vs 345

Postby PT » August 24th, 2010, 6:04 pm

345 was one of the first specials I saw, if I remember correctly, right after I started watching the subs. So that one gets my vote just because of that. ;D
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Re: DC Specials Contest: 304 vs 345

Postby Conia » August 24th, 2010, 6:32 pm

arielrachel0527 wrote:Hardest decision ever!!! I LOVE BOTH!! But I'll go with 345.

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