Files 743-752 Discussion Thread

[breva]

Spoiler: potential case solution discussion

whan I first saw your picture, I thought it could be a constellation or something like that, but the tennis racket makes sense

[Dashin]

Btw, Hades said "This is my revelations" in original as I remember, not "Book of Revelation", so maybe there's no religious references.[/spoiler]

The japanese word he used was mokushiroku, so he was talking about the Apocalypse (or the book of Revelation). But it could be just referring to his final revenge.

Regarding the "before your eyes" part, do we know if he told that to any kid besides Apollo? I thought we didn't.

[DaisukeKazamatsuri]

I don't trust my memory that far, but I thought there was at least some reference to Hades handing the riddle out to a lot of kids.  Regarding anything else, I still think that disregarding the second A is a mistake on Conan's part.  The riddle seems to have a clue in every inch of it, as Gosho loves to do, and I don't think that Hades would really have them go around picking up letters if every one of them weren't meant to be used. 

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

I don't trust my memory that far, but I thought there was at least some reference to Hades handing the riddle out to a lot of kids.  Regarding anything else, I still think that disregarding the second A is a mistake on Conan's part.  The riddle seems to have a clue in every inch of it, as Gosho loves to do, and I don't think that Hades would really have them go around picking up letters if every one of them weren't meant to be used.  

I think the second "A" was not a letter clue. It was only done to make the tennis racket look correct. After drawing the oval of the racket you have to return to the bridge in order to make a handle, otherwise you get a ... pointer finger.

[DaisukeKazamatsuri]

I don't trust my memory that far, but I thought there was at least some reference to Hades handing the riddle out to a lot of kids.  Regarding anything else, I still think that disregarding the second A is a mistake on Conan's part.  The riddle seems to have a clue in every inch of it, as Gosho loves to do, and I don't think that Hades would really have them go around picking up letters if every one of them weren't meant to be used.  

Spoiler: potential case solution discussion

I think the second "A" was not a letter clue. It was only done to make the tennis racket look correct. After drawing the oval of the racket you have to return to the bridge in order to make a handle, otherwise you get a ... pointer finger.

That's definitely an idea, but I still don't think it should be dismissed.  Maybe I'm just stubborn, but I don't really remember a time when Gosho left a riddle that didn't have to be looked over two or three times before the full answer was clear.  Besides that, when Hades overheard Conan's deduction he was very smug about what he heard. (I also didn't mean to use that emote, I thought it's mouth was twitching - what I'd meant to use was something like this:  :-\)

[Laurell]

If my memory serves me right, isn't it that Conan said that it will be a MASS MURDER? Or is it really only Minerva who could be possibly targeted?

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

I'm going to guess the likely threat note in Minerva's glove told her not to not call for help and play as normal or Apollo will be harmed.

Also Conan nearly darting the policewoman was amusing.

[RedPoppy]

Spoiler: 748

I'm going to guess the likely threat note in Minerva's glove told her not to not call for help and play as normal or Apollo will be harmed.

Also Conan nearly darting the policewoman was amusing.

Spoiler: 748

I think the message for Minerva was more serious. I expect something like: "IF YOU LOSE THE MATCH, I'LL BLOW UP WIMBLEDON. DON'T DARE TO TELL ANYBODY, OR I WILL KILL YOUR FAMILY BEFORE YOUR EYES".
Btw, isn't it kinda surprising that Kogoro was the one who made exactly the same deduction with map as you, Chekhov??

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

I think the message for Minerva was more serious. I expect something like: "IF YOU LOSE THE MATCH, I'LL BLOW UP WIMBLEDON. DON'T DARE TO TELL ANYBODY, OR I WILL YOUR FAMILY BEFORE YOUR EYES".
Btw, isn't it kinda surprising that Kogoro was the one who exactly the same deduction with map as you, Chekhov??

The fact that it was Kogoro who came up with it surprised me. I would have expected Conan to do the honors. I'm actually quite glad the elder Mouri got to show off some intelligence this time..., unless Vermouth/Yukiko/Kaito Kid tied the real one up somewhere.

What I really want to know is what Ran said when comparing mystery lady and Hestia's pictures. She looked uncertain.

Also, I wonder how Hades intends to kill Minerva. His bag is a bit small for a rifle, unless he plans on assembling it. It would also be hard to aim. Maybe he has some explosives somewhere.

Jd-, I noticed that Gosho added a new head design to his arsenal: the bald black dude who questioned Hades is different from anyone I've seen in the manga so far. Also the guy's mustache is totally and completely sweet.

[Jd-]

Spoiler: 748

Jd-, I noticed that Gosho added a new head design to his arsenal: the bald black dude who questioned Hades is different from anyone I've seen in the manga so far. Also the guy's mustache is totally and completely sweet.

Spoiler:

My collection... it grows!

[Mage-san]

Spoiler: potential case solution discussion

I was re-reviewing the riddle suspecting there should be more information than simply "Saturn". I noted that the buildings chosen have no relationship to the letters or the Hades' grudge (a porcelain shop?), but decided that they were probably chosen for a particular reason. I marked the locations on a map and connected them in the order they were mentioned in the riddle and the result was a shape rather like a tennis racket.


This image will probably expire in the future due to being hosted on a free hosting site. Sorry about that.

Many/Most users here already suspect Minerva Glass is the target, and this should add more evidence to that theory.
There are two possible locations for the murder where Minerva will predictably be. One is the site of the Wimbledon matches, Wimbledon center court, but that doesn't explain the Sherlock Holmes themeing, and it would be hard to pull off so easily given the probable security.
The Sherlock Holmes theme would make the Sherlock statue on Baker street that Minerva visits predictably before matches a more likely location of the target. It would be much easier for Hades to kill Minerva on the street. The time would be before the tennis match or whenever Minerva would visit. Assuming Apollo was not the only child told by Hades that a murder would occur before his eyes, the children given clues by the culprit are like the "Baker Street irregulars", so a murder on Baker Street would be "before their eyes" even if it is more figurative than literal.
I'm still stuck on what the "Book of Revelation" part adds to the mystery other than it is the last book of the bible, and thus implies the murder will occur before or after the finals match or one of the sets in the final match should the game be interrupted.

OMG... brilliant! And I totally support your deduction

[Akonyl]

whoops, just clicked chek's spoiler without thinking. :V

[Bamboo]

Spoiler: potential case solution discussion

Satan made me think of this:
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR3e5nz35sEMrEe7FXBuA6mSQxzbD4y6SRE-w73Z6kHC56cHL0&t=1&usg=__Itt1FdfmSX06siHp7ZAu6PIyFIM=
Then this:


But that doesn't explain its 'tail'.

[Misztina]

This might be an explanation  ;D :
This is definitely the work of Satan. 

[ShiraKiryuu]

This might be an explanation  ;D :
This is definitely the work of Satan. 

EH?!