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Re: Conan+Ayumi

Postby Kor » April 14th, 2010, 4:50 am

xpon wrote:and actually if someone love a girl under age 12, he should called a Pedofil not lolicon....


Is there something you would like to share with us?  :P
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Re: Conan+Ayumi

Postby xpon » April 14th, 2010, 4:57 am

Kor wrote:
xpon wrote:and actually if someone love a girl under age 12, he should called a Pedofil not lolicon....


Is there something you would like to share with us?  :P


Nope!

i love the body of a developing girl.......

13-17 years old.......
xpon is so cute...


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Re: Conan+Ayumi

Postby Schillok » April 14th, 2010, 8:43 am

xpon wrote:i love the body of a developing girl.......

13-17 years old.......


That' still lolicon.  ::) Well, maybe not ages 16 and 17, but even there special laws in your country probably regulate what you can do and can't do with girls of such age.


xpon wrote:
Schillok wrote:

(yay For Lolicon)


::)



it's the truth right??/

shinichi is 17 and ayumi is 7......


Actually Ayumi is 7 and Conan is 7 as well. At least how far as society and laws would say as long as they don't know his true origin. Ayumi x Conan is a slow process that involves both of the growing up and getting older.
And it is not Shinichi/Conan falling for her because she is a kid, but it is about falling for her despite her being a kid.


and actually if someone love a girl under age 12, he should called a Pedofil not lolicon....


Pedophile and lolicon have very similar meanings. So you could use either.
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Re: Conan+Ayumi

Postby mangaluva » April 14th, 2010, 9:38 am

Schillok wrote:
and actually if someone love a girl under age 12, he should called a Pedofil not lolicon....


Pedophile and lolicon have very similar meanings. So you could use either.


Pedophiles like children. Lolicons like specifically little girls, Shotacons like specifically little boys. It's the same term, just more specific.
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Re: Conan+Ayumi

Postby xGinx » April 14th, 2010, 1:18 pm

Schillok wrote:
xpon wrote:i love the body of a developing girl.......

13-17 years old.......


That' still lolicon.  ::) Well, maybe not ages 16 and 17, but even there special laws in your country probably regulate what you can do and can't do with girls of such age.


That is relative xD LOL .... if both wants to do it (whatever we are talking about) there's no problem i think. (Ovbiously from 16+, at least for me)

Schillok wrote:
xpon wrote:
Schillok wrote:

(yay For Lolicon)


::)



it's the truth right??/

shinichi is 17 and ayumi is 7......


Actually Ayumi is 7 and Conan is 7 as well. At least how far as society and laws would say as long as they don't know his true origin. Ayumi x Conan is a slow process that involves both of the growing up and getting older.
And it is not Shinichi/Conan falling for her because she is a kid, but it is about falling for her despite her being a kid.



He might have the body of a 7 years old kid but mentaly he's still 17 years old, so, that would make him a pedofil right?
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Re: Conan+Ayumi

Postby mangaluva » April 14th, 2010, 1:21 pm

xGinx wrote:
He might have the body of a 7 years old kid but mentaly he's still 17 years old, so, that would make him a pedofil right?


Pedophilia is a sexual thing, generally. If he wanted to have sex with her because she was seven, yeah, he'd be a pedophile. But if he fell for her emotively, and thought "ew that's creepy no sex until we're 18", then no, he would not be a pedophile.
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Re: Conan+Ayumi

Postby xGinx » April 14th, 2010, 1:29 pm

mangaluva wrote:
xGinx wrote:
He might have the body of a 7 years old kid but mentaly he's still 17 years old, so, that would make him a pedofil right?


Pedophilia is a sexual thing, generally. If he wanted to have sex with her because she was seven, yeah, he'd be a pedophile. But if he fell for her emotively, and thought "ew that's creepy no sex until we're 18", then no, he would not be a pedophile.


Oh, ok .... i didin't know that it was just about sex, i mean, i thought that just be feeling something for a girl of that age he was a pedophil.
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Re: Conan+Ayumi

Postby Schillok » April 14th, 2010, 1:47 pm

xGinx wrote:
mangaluva wrote:
xGinx wrote:
He might have the body of a 7 years old kid but mentaly he's still 17 years old, so, that would make him a pedofil right?


Pedophilia is a sexual thing, generally. If he wanted to have sex with her because she was seven, yeah, he'd be a pedophile. But if he fell for her emotively, and thought "ew that's creepy no sex until we're 18", then no, he would not be a pedophile.


Oh, ok .... i didin't know that it was just about sex, i mean, i thought that just be feeling something for a girl of that age he was a pedophil.


Yes, pedophilia is about sexual attraction towards children. But I think it is save to say that Conan/Shinichi does not have such desires, considering the reactions during file 722-724 (steam murder case). Remember, no spoilers in this forum.  :P

Yeah, Conan would have to wait a while for such things if he becomes interested in Ayumi, but considering his current physical age he would have to wait anyway. So this should not be an obstacle.
Like mangaluva mentioned: The whole issue is mainly in his head, it depends on him seeing Ayumi not just as a kid 10 years younger than him but as a peer at his own age. Something that given enough time could easily happen.
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Re: Conan+Ayumi

Postby mangaluva » April 14th, 2010, 2:29 pm

Schillok wrote:
xGinx wrote:
mangaluva wrote:
xGinx wrote:
He might have the body of a 7 years old kid but mentaly he's still 17 years old, so, that would make him a pedofil right?


Pedophilia is a sexual thing, generally. If he wanted to have sex with her because she was seven, yeah, he'd be a pedophile. But if he fell for her emotively, and thought "ew that's creepy no sex until we're 18", then no, he would not be a pedophile.


Oh, ok .... i didin't know that it was just about sex, i mean, i thought that just be feeling something for a girl of that age he was a pedophil.


Yes, pedophilia is about sexual attraction towards children. But I think it is save to say that Conan/Shinichi does not have such desires, considering the reactions during file 722-724 (steam murder case). Remember, no spoilers in this forum.  :P

Yeah, Conan would have to wait a while for such things if he becomes interested in Ayumi, but considering his current physical age he would have to wait anyway. So this should not be an obstacle.
Like mangaluva mentioned: The whole issue is mainly in his head, it depends on him seeing Ayumi not just as a kid 10 years younger than him but as a peer at his own age. Something that given enough time could easily happen.


That's right. If pedophilia was simply attraction towards children, emotional or physical, wouldn't that make Ayumi a pedophile for having a crush on Conan? No. It's purely emotional at that age, so if Conan did fall for her, it wouldn't be pedophilia, because, as Schillok said, he fell for her regardless of her age, rather than because of it.
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Re: Conan+Ayumi

Postby Callid » April 14th, 2010, 2:54 pm

mangaluva wrote:Pedophilia is a sexual thing, generally. If he wanted to have sex with her because she was seven, yeah, he'd be a pedophile. But if he fell for her emotively, and thought "ew that's creepy no sex until we're 18", then no, he would not be a pedophile.


Yep. Although I consider it strange that it's combined of παῖς (pais), "child, boy" and φιλία (philia), "(non-sexual) friendship". Looks like the word underwent a change of meaning.
The original term (in Ancient Greek) was apparently paiderastia, derived from παῖς (pais) "child, boy" and á¼
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Re: Conan+Ayumi

Postby mangaluva » April 14th, 2010, 3:00 pm

"Pedo" literally means "child", but in english appending "philia" to a word implies a sexual fetish, usually considered unnatural; ie necrophilia. "Pedo Baptism" is how infant baptisms can be referred to as, but due to "Pedophile" colloquially being shortened to "Pedo", it's a term less and less frequently used.
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Re: Conan+Ayumi

Postby Callid » April 14th, 2010, 3:07 pm

mangaluva wrote:"Pedo" literally means "child", but in english appending "philia" to a word implies a sexual fetish, usually considered unnatural; ie necrophilia. "Pedo Baptism" is how infant baptisms can be referred to as, but due to "Pedophile" colloquially being shortened to "Pedo", it's a term less and less frequently used.

Really? I would always use "-philia" for friendship (or love), like in nucleophilic or electrophilic (substitution). Or does this mean that the compound has a sexual fetish for electrons?  ;D
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Re: Conan+Ayumi

Postby mangaluva » April 14th, 2010, 3:12 pm

Callid wrote:
mangaluva wrote:"Pedo" literally means "child", but in english appending "philia" to a word implies a sexual fetish, usually considered unnatural; ie necrophilia. "Pedo Baptism" is how infant baptisms can be referred to as, but due to "Pedophile" colloquially being shortened to "Pedo", it's a term less and less frequently used.

Really? I would always use "-philia" for friendship (or love), like in nucleophilic or electrophilic (substitution). Or does this mean that the compound has a sexual fetish for electrons?  ;D


That... sounds weird XDXDXD I haven't ever heard those terms before, but then again I thoroughly failed the Sciences. As far as I know, though, in common English "-philia" is a suffix used for sexual fetishes.
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Re: Conan+Ayumi

Postby xGinx » April 14th, 2010, 3:41 pm

Callid wrote:
mangaluva wrote:"Pedo" literally means "child", but in english appending "philia" to a word implies a sexual fetish, usually considered unnatural; ie necrophilia. "Pedo Baptism" is how infant baptisms can be referred to as, but due to "Pedophile" colloquially being shortened to "Pedo", it's a term less and less frequently used.

Really? I would always use "-philia" for friendship (or love), like in nucleophilic or electrophilic (substitution). Or does this mean that the compound has a sexual fetish for electrons?  ;D


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Re: Conan+Ayumi

Postby xpon » April 14th, 2010, 9:09 pm

yup..

conan is still shinichi..... but if he love ayumi just because they were going together in class or in playing ground... than it's normal...


because i belive shinichi only love RAn....
xpon is so cute...


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Even Ayumi~chan and Sera~chan love to hug him.....


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