Detective Conan 563 (Detective Boys vs. Robber Gang (Turmoil

[kkslider5552000]

This episode was awesome!





Finally! FINALLY! HE'S BACK HE'S BACK HE'S BACK















I've waited a year for this!




YES


YESYESYESYESYESYESYES





























ANDRE CAMEL DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[Holmes]

Holy crap! Is he really back??? 

Bleh, I bet at the end of part two he´ll disappear in the crowd.

Neverthless, and incredibly amazing episode! Can´t wait for part two ...

So, Jodie-sensei and Akai were actually lovers, I always thought it was only Jodie´s fantasy .... and Jodie kicking the robber was so AWESOME!

[kkslider5552000]

I hope Megure appears in part 2. Megure and Jodie conversations are often hilarious.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

Alright anime only people, who do think scar Akai and Okiya are?

If you are curious, there was a poll about the identities of Okiya and scar Akai in the manga section when this chapter came out [s]a century[/s] about a year ago. The results are posted in the spoiler box.

Spoiler:

Okiya is Akai and Scar Akai is Bourbon  - 23 (34.3%)
Okiya is Bourbon and Scar Akai really is Akai - 6 (9%)
They're both Akai; he just got tired of squinting all the time - 4 (6%)
Neither is Akai because Akai is dead - 3 (4.5%)
Okiya is Akai and Scar Akai is Mizunashi Rena - 1 (1.5%)
Okiya is Bourbon and Scar Akai is Mizunashi Rena - 1 (1.5%)
Okiya is someone else and Scar Akai is Bourbon - 2 (3%)
They're both Bourbon, who should throw a B.O. house party at Shinichi's place - 3 (4.5%)
Scar Akai is Okiya who is Bourbon who is Akai reinfiltrating the organization - 9 (13.4%)
One of them is Vermouth - 8 (11.9%)
It's Kaitou Kid! - 4 (6%)
I don't know. - 3 (4.5%)
I have my own idea which I will describe below... - 0 (0%)

[HADAA]

I still don't get why Jodie decided to talk in a foreigner's accent after she sensed the robbers approaching the restroom.
Sure, she probably did it to prompt the kids to hide, but she just kneed an armed robber! Why didn't she just pick up his gun and shoot at them?
To simply invite them to tase her without putting up a fight is something I don't think an FBI agent will do. But oh well.

[Abs.]

I still don't get why Jodie decided to talk in a foreigner's accent after she sensed the robbers approaching the restroom.
Sure, she probably did it to prompt the kids to hide, but she just kneed an armed robber! Why didn't she just pick up his gun and shoot at them?
To simply invite them to tase her without putting up a fight is something I don't think an FBI agent will do. But oh well.

1.  Don't give the robbers any reason to suspect that she's not who they think she is (a stupid foreign woman with big boobs)
2.  Other accomplices outside with many hostages.  Gunshot bad.
3.  PROTECT THE CHILDREN!  AT ALL COSTS!  OMG I'M DEAD NOW!  I'LL NEVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO SHUU~~~

[scineram]

I kind of figured it out.

Spoiler:

They are about to hide the money, hide themselves among the hostages, escape during the chaos when bombs set off.

[kkslider5552000]

the fact that this topic only has a few replies after over 24 hours makes me sad  :(

WAS MY ANTI-SPOILER WORK FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR ALL FOR NOTHING? 

[Schillok]

the fact that this topic only has a few replies after over 24 hours makes me sad 

WAS MY ANTI-SPOILER WORK FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR ALL FOR NOTHING? 

Too far behind with watching the episodes.... didn't even watch the Red Wall case yet.
Beside, it is an manga-based episode so I know what happened (and what will happen next).

[ranger]

Awesome episode, after 50 episodes we finally get to see our favorite FBI agent.

That was pretty surprising that the relationship between Jodie and Akai was confirmed, also, kinda sucks for Jodie, because even though Akemi died, Akai didn't want to go back to her.  Seeing Jodie break down is a weird sight, im so used to her pre-Vermouth days, that mysterious blonde foreigner attitude.

This love triangle kinda reminds me of the ai/conan/ran one.  All I want now is a meeting between Ai and Akai.  I mean, they are pretty much siblings-in-law.

the fact that this topic only has a few replies after over 24 hours makes me sad 

WAS MY ANTI-SPOILER WORK FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR ALL FOR NOTHING? 

No! Keep up the anti-spoiler work, I f-ing hate spoilers, protect us anime-only fans! 

[kkslider5552000]

Alright anime only people, who do think scar Akai and Okiya are?

Spoiler:

What I think will happen: Scar Akai = Bourbon = Yamato and Okiya Subaru = Akai
What I want to happen: Scar Akai = Akai = Plan almost worked to fake death but he still got hurt and Jodie is correct and Okiya Subaru = Bourbon = Yamato = MASTER OF USING DETECTIVE SKILLS TO OUTSMART CONAN

[Jd-]

Alright anime only people, who do think scar Akai and Okiya are?

Spoiler:

What I think will happen: Scar Akai = Bourbon = Yamato and Okiya Subaru = Akai
What I want to happen: Scar Akai = Akai = Plan almost worked to fake death but he still got hurt and Jodie is correct and Okiya Subaru = Bourbon = Yamato = MASTER OF USING DETECTIVE SKILLS TO OUTSMART CONAN

What I think is this...

Spoiler:

Scar Akai is actually Akai and he actually did get burned in the blast. The body in the truck was Rikumichi (the Black Org. member who committed suicide when Conan & Akai ran him down back in Clash). We've gone over this before in various spots, but the reason the fingerprints were on the phone was because he had touched it when Conan was doing his little trick.

On the other end, I'm of the opinion that Okiya is the new CIA contact that Rena was meant to bring into the Organization, as was her real objective all along. She told Akai & Conan of this, and they decided that, once Okiya (henceforth known as "Bourbon") was successfully in the Organization, that she call the FBI and tell them that a new member had been accepted--with the FBI unaware that this was all part of their plan. This way, if there is another leak in the FBI (as was to be presumed), the Black Org. would not be suspicious of the new member being a spy because Rena would not give any impression that she was involved in his implementation. Along with this, they could spend time weeding out who the leak in the FBI abroad members was and use them to get to the boss at an opportune moment.

All guesswork, but that's what occurred to me long, long ago.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

Alright anime only people, who do think scar Akai and Okiya are?

Spoiler:

What I think will happen: Scar Akai = Bourbon = Yamato and Okiya Subaru = Akai
What I want to happen: Scar Akai = Akai = Plan almost worked to fake death but he still got hurt and Jodie is correct and Okiya Subaru = Bourbon = Yamato = MASTER OF USING DETECTIVE SKILLS TO OUTSMART CONAN

What I think is this...

Spoiler:

Scar Akai is actually Akai and he actually did get burned in the blast. The body in the truck was Rikumichi (the Black Org. member who committed suicide when Conan & Akai ran him down back in Clash). We've gone over this before in various spots, but the reason the fingerprints were on the phone was because he had touched it when Conan was doing his little trick.

On the other end, I'm of the opinion that Okiya is the new CIA contact that Rena was meant to bring into the Organization, as was her real objective all along. She told Akai & Conan of this, and they decided that, once Okiya (henceforth known as "Bourbon") was successfully in the Organization, that she call the FBI and tell them that a new member had been accepted--with the FBI unaware that this was all part of their plan. This way, if there is another leak in the FBI (as was to be presumed), the Black Org. would not be suspicious of the new member being a spy because Rena would not give any impression that she was involved in his implementation. Along with this, they could spend time weeding out who the leak in the FBI abroad members was and use them to get to the boss at an opportune moment.

All guesswork, but that's what occurred to me long, long ago.

You have to ask the following though. Why, if scar Akai is the real deal, is Akai wandering around in the open where it will seriously jeopardize Rena's safety with no gains to made if he is discovered by the B.O.? It contradictory behavior unless you want to discuss memory loss, which I have several things to say about, but they are manga spoilers so I'm not going to state them on this thread. You cans see the full range of objections in the sig link though.

I definitely think that it is difficult for Okiya to be anyone but Akai. A third party is not impossible, but there are several points to consider.
Okiya looks and acts like Akai down to being left handed.
Ran thinks Okiya looks familiar.
Haibara reacts strongly to Okiya, something she is known to do with Akai, but not for any of the other FBI agents or Eisuke. Would she react so strongly to a new agent? I can't say, but it is something to consider.
The names "Okiya Subaru" and "Akai Shuuichi" have a unified pun reference (I read somewhere that Moroboshi Dai fits in as well, although I forget how exactly. I'd love it if someone could fill me in on that.)  

I have an anime safe no manga spoilers list of reasons Okiya is Akai here: http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?p=55427#p55427



Episode 564 spoilers! Do not read if you don't want to be spoiled.

Spoiler:

You also have to ask why is scar Akai right handed all of a sudden? Scar Akai used his right hand to fire a handgun. It is unlikely scar Akai is simply using his right hand because he injured his left. In the Teito Bank Heist, he easily escaped the duct tape binding his hands, yet probably did not use the same method that Jodie used because there was still duct tape over his mouth. It doesn't make sense for him to cover his mouth with the duct tape again. Removing it with only one hand, especially if it's his off hand, would be difficult especially if robbers are watching you. (His eyes were covered so scar Akai couldn't be sure that no one was watching until the robbers pretended to be hostages which would give him only a few minutes to escape.) Switching handedness after head trauma does not appear to have been documented in scientific literature. That is not to say Gosho wouldn't consider using head trauma as an excuse to switch handedness, but it means that the concept lacks a precedent.

[Abs.]

Chekhov, why do you keep writing "Baker"

Also, it was Teito Bank.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

Chekhov, why do you keep writing "Baker"

Also, it was Teito Bank.

Well Beika is supposed to be homophonous to "Baker" like "Baker street" and Haido = Hyde. I figure it's appropriate but if you like Beika instead, I'll stick to that... And I'll fix Teito bank while I am at it.