Episodes 558-561 (The Mansion of Death & The Red Wall) Discu

[Kite]

Awww, how sweet, our shadowman is growing up. He learnt to speak. 

[Conia]

YOU ALL ARE MISSING THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE 5 EPISODES:

THE SHADY CHARACTER TALKED 

your right. This was the first I heard the mysterious shadow having a voice

I don´t think so ...  in ep. 219 the shadowman also talks if I remember correctly.

When I as typing that post, I was doubtful if shadowman had talked before.

[kkslider5552000]

I liked the case ....

me too. Should have been a 3 part case but it was really good and the dying message was pretty cool.

[CTU]

YOU ALL ARE MISSING THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE 5 EPISODES:

THE SHADY CHARACTER TALKED 

your right. This was the first I heard the mysterious shadow having a voice

I don´t think so ...  in ep. 219 the shadowman also talks if I remember correctly.

I said the first time I heard him speak...not the first time it has happened in DC

[GilarStyle]

Just asking randomly whether you guys noticed this in the last 5 HD episodes:
In the opening, it says: "hikaridasu mirai ga kawatte iku" -- the "hi" is somehow blurry
In the ending, it says: "kono koe to kono hitome de kitto" -- it should be "mi" as you might have guessed, maybe a typo.

[ranger]

Also, can someone explain to me why the wall was painted red for the 2nd murder?  I must of missed something...

That was because the real culprit didn't understand the hidden meaning of the dying message. He just copied it as much as he could, to make the detectives think the dying message was actually a message from the culprit himself (and make them dismiss the value of it). Of course, he still felt very uneasy about it, because he wasn't sure whether he didn't reveal himself (via the hidden message he couldn't decode) by doing that.

Ah, that's what I first deduced, but I thought I missed something integral about the 2nd painted wall.  Thanks

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also at 6:49 in 559 what was with the flash of the cell phone with the message on it? It had no relevance to the current plot and as far as I can tell was only supposed to pop up at 10:05 in 559.

you meant "10:05 in 560" right?  Yeah, "The Late Koumei" randomly popped in there...was that an animation error by the DC TMS people? Weird.

yeah I meant 560, I messed up the episode numbers but only fixed the first one :V

"The Late Koumei" message text is not an error, Koumei actually wanted to write "The Late Koumei scares away the living Zhonda" as a hint of the real dying message of Shuusaku-san, but was attacked by Midori-san before he could have finshed. It is explained in 561, 17:04 - 17:06
Hope this answers everything, if not, I don´t have another answer

oh no, I understand the meaning behind the message. However in 559, the episode before that even happens, you see a flash of the cell phone with the message on it for absolutely no reason, when Koumei hasn't even written the message yet.

Akonyl was asking about in episode 559 when it randomly popped up.  Maybe it was foreshadowing..?    No idea, probably an animation error.

[kholoudsafir]

Whenever there is an episode with a dyeing message , I think how could a person think of something so complex and hard to solve, in most cases, while they are in the most sensitive moments of their lives 
I do not mean to put the culprits'name directly, but to find easier dyeing message.

[Jd-]

Whenever there is an episode with a dyeing message , I think how could a person think of something so complex and hard to solve, in most cases, while they are in the most sensitive moments of their lives 
I do not mean to put the culprits'name directly, but to find easier dyeing message.

This case had one of the more unlikely ones, if I should say so myself. Not only is it entirely circumstantial to the umpteenth degree, it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense in context. Gosho likely conceived this idea while flipping through a medical book or watching a genre documentary before jotting it down in his notes for a case. There are so many other possibilities as to alternate conclusions that it's not even a particularly viable one on the victim's part.

That said, it was a nice departure from the usual dying messages--just wish it had been applied a bit more directly in order to give it some substance.

[CarpetCrawler]

Just finished watching this. It was a great case to end the year, though I was completely off on the killer. The whole bit about a shoe was just completly out of left field. I mean, I understand the Italy connection, but that was just too much of a stretch. Though I did get a kick out of everyone acting random characters to try and get the killer to reveal themselves!

I also get a kick out of episodes like these because I'm a HUGE Dynasty Warriors/Samurai Warriors video game series fan, so I've come to recognize the characters, and even got the battle with Simi Yi that was referenced in the episode. My brother is a bigger fan of Samurai Warriors than I, so he understood the Empty Fort Strategy when they mentioned it. Cases like these are really fun, and this was a great way to end 2009!