Shinichi+Ran

[hgokuh]

Just noticed that one of my songs could work for them 
It goes like this:

Loving you is killing me
and I couldn't live without you in my memories
day and night,
the pain remains, I'm empty inside because
CH:
Time was never on my side
it took you away from me,
the clock kept ticking
leaving me behind.

that's the first part 

[James Rye]

After 35 pages with no mean interaction, no Ran-or Shinichi-bashing and no harsh words towards ShinRan as a couple (i´m way too nice for this world, somedays it will kills me ) i wanna start the new year with one and only one argument agaisnt ShinRan:

1. HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE! I WISH YOU A SUCESSFUL AND LUCKY YEAR "2010!

2. I don´t like ShinRan cause i have xx reasons for it: One of them goes like this:

I don´t like ShinRan cause Shinichi only got the resolution to confess to Ran AFTER she confessed her love to Conan unknowingly that he´s Shinichi.
Before that he only dreamed about it with him in the role as the always-cool lover who responds to her love-sick confession (like every other teenager do dream ´bout it XD), but didn´t do anything to get their (Ran did thought it wasn´t that much (cause Shinichi turned too fast into Conan) it was way more then Shinichi did ).

So, have fun and so on in the next year. And manymanymany DC-chapters for us all.^g^

[Rellik]

I don´t like ShinRan cause Shinichi only got the resolution to confess to Ran AFTER she confessed her love to Conan unknowingly that he´s Shinichi.
Before that he only dreamed about it with him in the role as the always-cool lover who responds to her love-sick confession (like every other teenager do dream ´bout it XD), but didn´t do anything to get their (Ran did thought it wasn´t that much (cause Shinichi turned too fast into Conan) it was way more then Shinichi did ).

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But for now - HAPPY NEW YEAR - we have 2 years before we die, let's make the most of this year and next xD

[Conia]

First post on 2010 in the Shinichi+Ran thread

[mangaluva]

Happy New Year! Wanna see the sweetest and most beautifully melancholy New Year's fic that i've read? (with allusions to ShinRan?)

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5630290/1/The_Fisher_Lad

[soratothamax]

I don´t like ShinRan cause Shinichi only got the resolution to confess to Ran AFTER she confessed her love to Conan unknowingly that he´s Shinichi.
Before that he only dreamed about it with him in the role as the always-cool lover who responds to her love-sick confession (like every other teenager do dream ´bout it XD), but didn´t do anything to get their (Ran did thought it wasn´t that much (cause Shinichi turned too fast into Conan) it was way more then Shinichi did ).

Please allow 10 working days for this message to be completely and utterly destroyed

But for now - HAPPY NEW YEAR - we have 2 years before we die, let's make the most of this year and next xD

Sadly, you're right. And it is so common in almost all Shonens it's sickening. That's because Japan still has an old view of women and relationships (marry young while you still can, and marry overly caring, sensitive, and motherly type of women, and oh, they have to be beautiful) when most people at that age make poor decisions in love and in choosing partners because the teen years are when emotions and feelings are most misunderstood.

I really thought their relationship seemed ridiculous and elementary in the latest volume. How does Ran not kick butt just because she thinks Shinichi won't like it? That's the most retarded thing ever. You will get your friend killed to impress Shinichi who isn't even around? What seems more trivial? Shinichi or someone's life? That just goes to show how immature she is. Forget him, YOUR FREAKING FRIEND WAS IN DANGER! just a dumb broad!

At least I used to see that she would care for people enough to save them, but now she lets Shinichi run her whole life like she doesn't have one of her own. That's ridiculous.

[scineram]

Well said. That is why I hate this pairing, almost as much as the other.

[ShinRan36]

so you dont have to come to this thread right??

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALLL SHINRAN FANS!

[mangaluva]

I don´t like ShinRan cause Shinichi only got the resolution to confess to Ran AFTER she confessed her love to Conan unknowingly that he´s Shinichi.
Before that he only dreamed about it with him in the role as the always-cool lover who responds to her love-sick confession (like every other teenager do dream ´bout it XD), but didn´t do anything to get their (Ran did thought it wasn´t that much (cause Shinichi turned too fast into Conan) it was way more then Shinichi did ).

Please allow 10 working days for this message to be completely and utterly destroyed

But for now - HAPPY NEW YEAR - we have 2 years before we die, let's make the most of this year and next xD

Sadly, you're right. And it is so common in almost all Shonens it's sickening. That's because Japan still has an old view of women and relationships (marry young while you still can, and marry overly caring, sensitive, and motherly type of women, and oh, they have to be beautiful) when most people at that age make poor decisions in love and in choosing partners because the teen years are when emotions and feelings are most misunderstood.

I really thought their relationship seemed ridiculous and elementary in the latest volume. How does Ran not kick butt just because she thinks Shinichi won't like it? That's the most retarded thing ever. You will get your friend killed to impress Shinichi who isn't even around? What seems more trivial? Shinichi or someone's life? That just goes to show how immature she is. Forget him, YOUR FREAKING FRIEND WAS IN DANGER! just a dumb broad!

At least I used to see that she would care for people enough to save them, but now she lets Shinichi run her whole life like she doesn't have one of her own. That's ridiculous.

It's called love, people. It makes people think irrationally and do stupid, stupid things. Not a common experience among manga otaku, I take it?

[Rellik]

Not a common experience among manga otaku, I take it?

sheesh, ur asking for a flame war here lol

Sadly, you're right. And it is so common in almost all Shonens it's sickening. That's because Japan still has an old view of women and relationships (marry young while you still can, and marry overly caring, sensitive, and motherly type of women, and oh, they have to be beautiful) when most people at that age make poor decisions in love and in choosing partners because the teen years are when emotions and feelings are most misunderstood.

I really thought their relationship seemed ridiculous and elementary in the latest volume. How does Ran not kick butt just because she thinks Shinichi won't like it? That's the most retarded thing ever. You will get your friend killed to impress Shinichi who isn't even around? What seems more trivial? Shinichi or someone's life? That just goes to show how immature she is. Forget him, YOUR FREAKING FRIEND WAS IN DANGER! just a dumb broad!

At least I used to see that she would care for people enough to save them, but now she lets Shinichi run her whole life like she doesn't have one of her own. That's ridiculous.

I don't know what japanese people's views on woman are, but all i see this as is an appeal to boys, you know, being shounen and all.

Without a girl that's 'overly caring, sensitive, and motherly type of women, and oh, they have to be beautiful' - which appeals to boys greatly - and some chapters where they display the cute side of this character then that shounen manga will crash and burn hard, there are exceptions, but rarely.

It's called love, people. It makes people think irrationally and do stupid, stupid things.

and i guess this answers the rest lol

[mangaluva]

Not a common experience among manga otaku, I take it?

sheesh, ur asking for a flame war here lol

No flame wars, please. I just think they were being needlessly harsh and are any case posting on the wrong thread. This is for fans of ShinRan, not haters.

[Conia]

It's called love, people. It makes people think irrationally and do stupid, stupid things.

99% of the people who reads this will agree.

[Elika12]

It's called love, people. It makes people think irrationally and do stupid, stupid things.

mangaluva is right
the definition of love is give the life for the other so Shinichi tries to make Ran not to suffer for not telling what happen
so if Ran is in danger is gonna save her even if he dies

Spoiler:

but of course we don't want that to happen

[mangaluva]

It's called love, people. It makes people think irrationally and do stupid, stupid things.

mangaluva is right
the definition of love is give the life for the other so Shinichi tries to make Ran not to suffer for not telling what happen
so if Ran is in danger is gonna save her even if he dies

Spoiler:

but of course we don't want that to happen

Yeah, DEFINATELY don't want either to die  But that's what you do if you love somebody- you'd give up everything for them. It's preferable that you don't have to, of course, but you would if you had to.

[kirite]

Sadly, you're right. And it is so common in almost all Shonens it's sickening. That's because Japan still has an old view of women and relationships (marry young while you still can, and marry overly caring, sensitive, and motherly type of women, and oh, they have to be beautiful) when most people at that age make poor decisions in love and in choosing partners because the teen years are when emotions and feelings are most misunderstood.

Ahh from reading this I can tell Sora is back <3 (though you have been back in a while, I guess I haven't been on forums that much).  I hope you read this thread once in a blue moon.  Miss you lots.  Have you read any good Josei or Seinen manga?

Let's not be (too) feminist here.  In real life I don't think typical Japanese guys have this view on girls.  Plus in real life girls can also have painfully shallow views on guys yes?  Plus from my experience Japanese guy view is more like marry late (they don't like to get married), marry a women with university degree that can earn a good income but lets you boss her around anyways (so really, it's worse then what you said). 

Now actually on topic-ish, Ran.  Her friend wasn't in danger, she just wanted Ran to stop a purse snatcher from running away.  Plus in real circumstances Ran can be charged if she Karate's the guy's ass like she usually does.  Now if some guy was threatening to hurt Sonoko (which always happens) she'll kick the guy's ass for sure.

Ran was just scared Shinichi doesn't like her (with him always hinting he has something to say to her and all). I don't see what the problem is with that, she's at a festival with her friends and family, can't a girl have a moment to think about silly things?  Plus I don't agree that people are only stupid with love when they're teens.  People are stupid with love no matter how old they are.  You can never be mature enough to be in love even if you're 20, 30, 40, 50.  As you grow older, you realise people just don't grow up.

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It's called love, people. It makes people think irrationally and do stupid, stupid things.

mangaluva is right
the definition of love is give the life for the other so Shinichi tries to make Ran not to suffer for not telling what happen
so if Ran is in danger is gonna save her even if he dies

Spoiler:

but of course we don't want that to happen

Well he doesn't want her to suffer.  That won't stop her from dying from being unknowingly surrounded by FBI, CIA, BO, murderers who all carry guns and shiney knife thingys.  Sometimes you got to realise you can't do everything for the ones you care about (though this IS a shounen manga, so of course Shinichi can save the day if it comes to that lol).  Plus Ran confess she loves him doesn't she, so she'll want to protect as much as he wants to protect her.  So if he doesn't want HER keeping secrets from him (which she already is with the Vermouth thing) then he better start telling the truth.