I'll just repost my post from page 199 which got overlookeb because of the 200th-page celebrations. Which is said, because it contains THE counter argument for all these childhood friends love stories. Also, it took me ages to write and research.
Schillok wrote:I don't see Shiho sharing the interests in cases. Usually he hardly does anything herself to solve them, only if the Detective Boys urge her to join. Quite the contrary, she usually asks Conan for the solution instead of trying to figure it out herself. Neither is she interested in Shinichis/Conans thrid hobby: Detective stories/novels.
The only interest they share is football. And even there she is favoring the opposite team. ::)
At this point I would usually make the reference to Ayumi who shares all three of his interests. But... I bet everyone knows that already. ;D
She's is the only one (apart from Heiji) who ever server as Conan's assistant. The most notable example for this is
Movie 11 (if you consider the movies canon) or
She doesn't seem to share his interest in crime fiction, that's true. Rand does. Ayumi may also like football but cannot really help him to solve his cases. I don't think she's a fan of crime fiction either.
How can something be run-of-the-mill and extremely predictable and at the same time unrealistic? Doesn't the fact that it is very common and easy to predict indicate that it is very realistic?
It's unrealistic for two reasons:
A) Most of Gosho's pairings work the same way
B) There's a thing called the Westermarck Effect which says that people who have known each other since at least one of them was still a child, they're highly unlikely to be attracted to each other sexuallyExactly my thought. Opposites may attract in magnetism, but not in relationships. Of course there is some room for tolerance, but the more similar a couple is, the better they will get along.
Not necessarily.Complementary relationships are very common. Personally, I prefer that kind. And Conan and Ai definitely complement each other
I never said they think the same way. I said they understand how the other party thinks. Even if she thinks he's doing something idiotic here, she still understands his motivation
ziraulo wrote:
Ah, I meant that anyone can use Shinichi as an inspiration. Sometimes, people try doing what the people close to them usually do, just to see why they like it. I have a tendency to do that as well, but tends to backfire on me. And I answer "no" to both of your questions.
True, but I don't see how this is relevant.
*tips head to the side slowly, trying to register the reply in my brain* I never, ever, ever got that logic. And did you know that it wasn't the girls who used to do that a lot but the BOYS?
Yoru: So that's why you hit that boy in your 3rd grade class with an umbrella?
...Yup!
Are you talking about boys playing pranks on girls to get their attention? That's completely different from Ai's flirty teasing. Or have I yet again failed to understand you correctly?
I don't think so. ShinRan has practically redefined what "star-crossed lovers" mean to me. Before, I would think of Romeo and Juliet's balcony scene, but now I think of that scene in OP 27 where they were talking to each other on the phone with just a wall separating them.
Also, I like the childhood friend clichee, but I do think Gosho overused it. Seriously, I'm younger than most of the DC characters and I barely remember my childhood!
They do have some nice romantic scenes, but mostly its just too Pilcheresque.
Maybe, but then again, ALL kids are taught morals and ethics. Knowing that Ran's parents are a lawyer/police officer tandem (well, back when they weren't separated, at least), she would have learned those early on, even without Shinichi's help.
Possible. We cannot say for sure, but I still think she mostly just adopted Shinichi's morals and beliefs.
Doesn't actually change anything to me! For me, standpoints are way harder to change, but a person's interests change a lot throughout his/her life. Two examples would be children tiring of toys as they grow up, and Ai liking football (assuming that the first match she watched was the one she watched with the DB) Changing standpoints take an extremely long time, even if you're not that stubborn with you opinions.
Ooh!!! Page 199!!!
Actually, my whole point was that common interests are more important to a relationship than common standpoints. Although that's subjective.
Edit: Don't you dare take Twilight into this. I had been forced to watch the first movie... Oh, the mental scars it left...
but did not.
as his plan failed
Kay and her friends...
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