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Postby Eve » August 7th, 2009, 12:50 pm

Ooops, sorry, got my Japanese Opt on XDDD

Just wanna say that anything can be an end for Haibara, I just hope she'll get a good ending ^_^
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Postby AICHAN » August 7th, 2009, 1:46 pm

Khinkhun wrote:Ooops, sorry, got my Japanese Opt on XDDD

Just wanna say that anything can be an end for Haibara, I just hope she'll get a good ending ^_^


it's okay,don't worry! :)

the question is"what is a good ending for haibara?" and we don't have the same opinion about that :-[
as long as gosho don't kill her,i'm okay!
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Postby Eve » August 7th, 2009, 1:49 pm

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Khinkhun wrote:Ooops, sorry, got my Japanese Opt on XDDD

Just wanna say that anything can be an end for Haibara, I just hope she'll get a good ending ^_^


it's okay,don't worry! :)

the question is"what is a good ending for haibara?" and we don't have the same opinion about that :-[
as long as gosho don't kill her,i'm okay!


Yeah... I hope she's not going be a. dead, b. Gone far away, c. Jailed (LOL... this thought just entered), d. remained a kid (because it doesn't seem right), d. comatose (XDDD)

I mean this girl suffered too much already!!!! XDDD
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Postby baka1412 » August 7th, 2009, 1:51 pm

One of the most possible ending was for Haibara to be adopted as a daughter of Fusae (Agasa should marry her), and become a very very famous fashion designer  overboard :D
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Postby Eve » August 7th, 2009, 1:55 pm

baka1412 wrote:One of the most possible ending was for Haibara to be adopted as a daughter of Fusae (Agasa should marry her), and become a very very famous fashion designer  overboard :D



WAHHH, that totaly fits the "going far away" part LOL....

But it is a good ending in a sense... though I'd hate it if her genius science mind get wasted... I mean even though she read fashion magazines, she's usually spend a lot of time on the computer, contributing to her scientist mind ^_^
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Postby kkslider5552000 » August 7th, 2009, 1:58 pm

Yeah, I've never seen the logic of the  "it's not a good ending if everyone isn't in a relationship" idea that some people have. People just complained about the School Rumble ending (endings) without realizing that after the last arcs, it seems somewhat obvious that everything happened for the better, even if almost no one was officially in a relationship.

And I also think that staying as a kid would work. I wouldn't be surprised (especially with her personality earlier in the series) if she didn't exactly have a great childhood, so staying as a kid in order to relive her childhood is far from a bad idea. (also, it would be very ironic)
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Postby AICHAN » August 7th, 2009, 2:11 pm

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Khinkhun wrote:Ooops, sorry, got my Japanese Opt on XDDD

Just wanna say that anything can be an end for Haibara, I just hope she'll get a good ending ^_^


it's okay,don't worry! :)

the question is"what is a good ending for haibara?" and we don't have the same opinion about that :-[
as long as gosho don't kill her,i'm okay!


Yeah... I hope she's not going be a. dead, b. Gone far away, c. Jailed (LOL... this thought just entered), d. remained a kid (because it doesn't seem right), d. comatose (XDDD)

I mean this girl suffered too much already!!!! XDDD


yeah that's what i think!!! she's one of the character who REALLY deserve to have a happy ending!(the others also,but most of them have a very happy life compared to haibara,so ...)

as for c:jailed  .... i saw a fanfic about that idea( where shinichi came to see her everyday even after being married to Ran) that wasn't that bad!
the option d: comatose was also in a fanfic i read,but i don't want to see that happen!
but staying as a child... as i said it would be a waste for me!
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baka1412 wrote:One of the most possible ending was for Haibara to be adopted as a daughter of Fusae (Agasa should marry her), and become a very very famous fashion designer  overboard :D



WAHHH, that totaly fits the "going far away" part LOL....

But it is a good ending in a sense... though I'd hate it if her genius science mind get wasted... I mean even though she read fashion magazines, she's usually spend a lot of time on the computer, contributing to her scientist mind ^_^


looool!i was thinking one day"hey she could work with fusae and being a fashion designer,she seems to like fashion!" and become a very rich businesswoman!
but she's a genius of science,so she won't give up her first vocation!she like sciences!
(that's also why i think that staying as a child would be a waste,she wil be bored with an easy life like this ,especially if conan isn't with her)!
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Postby Eve » August 7th, 2009, 2:19 pm

Yeah... imagine how bore she would be... Not to mention even if it was a reset for her life... this new life is like she's totally orphaned... The life of Haibara Ai is just tragic, whatever road she takes...
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ok i understand now!i was thinking you're referring to movie 4 when you said that,cause it's the only time she said clearly that she wanted to lose her memory so that she could really be a child living a normal life(in a way it's like she wanted to stay as haibara)

the other things she said in the manga are only interpretations for me! sure she like her actual life with Db and agasa(cause it's better than the life she had) and she will not complain!
but does that mean she will stay as a child in the end ?will she choose the easier solution instead of trying to build up her new life (with the new things she learn about friendship,justice...)?
because in a way,it's like she run away from her real life(and she proved that she doesn't want to run away anymore) instead of facing her future !it's like staying in a sweet dream instead of living in reality! as she said in vol 19 ,if we try to change the clock,we always are  punished! i don't want her to choose the easier way after all the character developement she had in the manga concerning that point!
really if ai stay as a child i wouldn't be satisfied :(

but maybe gosho will let haibara staying as a child,cause it would be the easier way to make her happy and let Kudo be with Ran in peace ::)

and as i said before,i would't mind to see haibara with okiya or akai of gosho build a real relationship (and i think he can if he really want to) but not if they only fell in love in one file ::)
and as khinkhun said,it's not impossible to have akai or okiya meeting Shiho once in the  manga,so i don't think the reason that they can't be with a 8years old child isn't satisfactory for me(and if they know haibara secret , i think they could wait until she get her real body no? especially akai cause he seems to know her )



yea, she can't run anymore! I want her to become Shiho again and start a new life. Conan has also made friends with the DB, though he's not as intimate as Ai, so it'd be weird to see him not with DB anymore......same with Shiho. But they both have to face reality and their future someday. Ai is NOT a 7-9 yr old girl. She can't reverse time, she has to face it.

i don't think it's impossible for Ai to be swooned at age 8. Look at Conan and Ran  ??? So, if they know the correct age maybe it WOULD HAVE worked, but....

There are other reasons why it would seem awkward for me
*Akai was her sister's boyfriend. And though Ai helped Akai get connections in the BO, and they became well-acquainted, I can't see him dating his girlfriend's sister....It's like he's dating all the women in the family...that's just not right. Also, Akai might be dead. Which would leave Ai with no one anyway. Also, they could be hinting at a ShuuxJodie fling......

*Okiya....we don't even know who he is. He could be her father for all we know! Eventually we will, but he would have to be in more episodes for the chemistry to build.....which, like most BO/FBI types, they are not in the episodes that much. Also, Haibara knows that her and Conan are the same. They both shrunk using the drug, they both want the drug and take down the BO. Okiya....he's seems too knowledgable about everything...and also Ai's cute and sarcastic remarks wouldn't work on someone as "refined" as Okiya...it would seem awkward......

The only other person I can see is GinxSherry....now that is something to think about....then again, he should be in prison by the end of DC......there's no way around it...it's Ai/Conan ftw! ;D
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Postby Eve » August 7th, 2009, 9:53 pm

LOL.... Ai Conan would be awesome... but isn't it impossible? I mean the author seems to like them as a couple ...^_- and his opinion beats our XDDD
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Postby KaitoKid0 » August 8th, 2009, 5:31 am

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ok i understand now!i was thinking you're referring to movie 4 when you said that,cause it's the only time she said clearly that she wanted to lose her memory so that she could really be a child living a normal life(in a way it's like she wanted to stay as haibara)

the other things she said in the manga are only interpretations for me! sure she like her actual life with Db and agasa(cause it's better than the life she had) and she will not complain!
but does that mean she will stay as a child in the end ?will she choose the easier solution instead of trying to build up her new life (with the new things she learn about friendship,justice...)?
because in a way,it's like she run away from her real life(and she proved that she doesn't want to run away anymore) instead of facing her future !it's like staying in a sweet dream instead of living in reality! as she said in vol 19 ,if we try to change the clock,we always are  punished! i don't want her to choose the easier way after all the character developement she had in the manga concerning that point!
really if ai stay as a child i wouldn't be satisfied :(

but maybe gosho will let haibara staying as a child,cause it would be the easier way to make her happy and let Kudo be with Ran in peace ::)

and as i said before,i would't mind to see haibara with okiya or akai of gosho build a real relationship (and i think he can if he really want to) but not if they only fell in love in one file ::)
and as khinkhun said,it's not impossible to have akai or okiya meeting Shiho once in the  manga,so i don't think the reason that they can't be with a 8years old child isn't satisfactory for me(and if they know haibara secret , i think they could wait until she get her real body no? especially akai cause he seems to know her )



yea, she can't run anymore! I want her to become Shiho again and start a new life. Conan has also made friends with the DB, though he's not as intimate as Ai, so it'd be weird to see him not with DB anymore......same with Shiho. But they both have to face reality and their future someday. Ai is NOT a 7-9 yr old girl. She can't reverse time, she has to face it.

i don't think it's impossible for Ai to be swooned at age 8. Look at Conan and Ran  ??? So, if they know the correct age maybe it WOULD HAVE worked, but....

There are other reasons why it would seem awkward for me
*Akai was her sister's boyfriend. And though Ai helped Akai get connections in the BO, and they became well-acquainted, I can't see him dating his girlfriend's sister....It's like he's dating all the women in the family...that's just not right. Also, Akai might be dead. Which would leave Ai with no one anyway. Also, they could be hinting at a ShuuxJodie fling......

*Okiya....we don't even know who he is. He could be her father for all we know! Eventually we will, but he would have to be in more episodes for the chemistry to build.....which, like most BO/FBI types, they are not in the episodes that much. Also, Haibara knows that her and Conan are the same. They both shrunk using the drug, they both want the drug and take down the BO. Okiya....he's seems too knowledgable about everything...and also Ai's cute and sarcastic remarks wouldn't work on someone as "refined" as Okiya...it would seem awkward......

The only other person I can see is GinxSherry....now that is something to think about....then again, he should be in prison by the end of DC......there's no way around it...it's Ai/Conan ftw! ;D
geez i was agreeing with you all up until the last part...ginXshiho? ewww its the same as what you said with her and okya...her witty remarks wont work with him...and haibara hates him...and gin wants to kill haibara...and gin is way to old for her...its either her and conan/shinichi or noone really
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Postby KaitoKid0 » August 8th, 2009, 5:34 am

Khinkhun wrote:LOL.... Ai Conan would be awesome... but isn't it impossible? I mean the author seems to like them as a couple ...^_- and his opinion beats our XDDD
well with negative comments like that it may seem impossible to you...but this is to powerful...there are dozens of aiXconan fan sites and forums and stuff they are all eager to be heard by gosho..they all beg him to make it a right ending for haibara and let her be with conan...dont underestimate the power of free speech..it has made differences in 'intended' endings lots of times..and i think this is the biggest one of all
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Postby AICHAN » August 8th, 2009, 6:54 am

Okiya....he's seems too knowledgable about everything...and also Ai's cute and sarcastic remarks wouldn't work on someone as "refined" as Okiya...it would seem awkward......


hmmm,i don't really agree about that point. haibara sure is sarcastic but it doesn't mean she needs someone as sarcastic as her, or else she should go with akai ::)
conan is sarcastic also,but a lot of time he doesn't  succeed to reply in the same sarcastic level as haibara,he just say"ah le le",or "no comments" or even don't find the words !she often have the last word! (it's also for that reason i like them,haibara is the only person who manage to defeat  him with words!)

and okiya seems to have enough character and a strong personality (look the end of ikkaku rock)to bear sarcastic remark and reply to them with delicacy!
but we don't know a lot about him,he still a big mystery so, i won't add anything!
i just want to see some ai/okiya interactions!
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Postby Eve » August 8th, 2009, 1:42 pm

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but we don't know a lot about him,he still a big mystery so, i won't add anything!
i just want to see some ai/okiya interactions!



ME TOO!!!! JUST more than just one page interraction! Like her investigating Okiya or something XDDD
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