Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,022-102X

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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,022-102X

Postby AgOkami » December 8th, 2018, 9:51 am

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Even if Aburai expected him to fall, it's pretty weird that she keeps looking up as he's landing. What I can think of is: either something caught her attention more than the guy falling to his death (in which case it'd often be natural to tell the police), or she needed to see if a trick worked as it should so nothing pointing to her was still stuck there, or she wanted to make sure Makoto was there so she could point it out to the others if he didn't show up like he did (though he lacks motive, so that one's pretty weak).
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,022-102X

Postby Zerozaki4869 » December 8th, 2018, 12:54 pm

Spoiler:
the trick
Now the biggest question is that under what it was hidden, an answer would be under the smart-phone that was kept on the ledge.
But then it might have fallen outside, if that was the case or might have caught in the camera though.
Possibly it was the trick used by the director and it also accounts for the weird noise.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,022-102X

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » December 8th, 2018, 3:15 pm

Here are text spoilers from 1,024, courtesy of Wheel of Fate and Baka, and translated by Mezoo and Mycroft:
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Masumi says to Ran that she meant “that thing”. Ran responds that Conan and Shinichi have appeared together once in the past. Masumi is hesitant and seems surprised that this indeed happened, to which Ran responds that it was at the School Play. And when she went the next day to his house both Conan and Shinichi were there. She looks back to Sonoko and says "Isn't that right?", and she confirms. Ran asks Masumi whether she thinks that Conan and Shinichi are the same person, but Masumi gets confused and doesn’t know what to respond. Instead Ran is telling her that she was thinking about that more than once ("think about it there should be something like magic") until the School Play happened. Ran turns around to Conan and says “You are Conan, right?” (same as in Yusaku's Cold Case), to which Masumi stays silent and Conan starts laughing.
The assistant director Odori was killed as expected and something like a butterfly was found in the pocket of his trousers.


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Seems to me like Ran has realized more than she's letting on, here—even though she's deflecting Masumi's suspicions, she seems to harbor them, herself.

We'll need more context, but it seems that Ran's undercurrent of suspicion about Conan Edogawa's identity is about to become more than just the long-running undercurrent it's been since her last suspicion arc (479–483/398–400). In fact, this reminds me of the period where she actually believed Conan was Shinichi (134–257/96–192). Back during that period, there were many times where we got scenes similar to the one in 1,024—where Ran would come off as more aware of the situation than was assumed.

Of course, this whole situation will likely just push things forward for each of them—Masumi likely won't be swayed to think that Shinichi isn't Conan (and if she does, Mary will likely set her straight).

Both Ran and Masumi (and Mary, and perhaps even Shūkichi) have the potential to be wild cards, with respect to the upcoming clash between the Kudōs, Shūichi, Rei/Tōru/Bourbon, the Security Bureaus and the FBI and Rum and the BO. All of the Akai family should be in on this confrontation, and it wasn't too long ago that Ran recalled the incident at the pier (429–434/345—the closest she's gotten to getting involved in the BO plot) and actually saw through Vermouth's disguise (954–957/866–867).


UPDATE:
Here are more 1,024 text spoilers, courtesy of Mycroft:
Spoiler:
"Ok, it seems that Masumi is not persuaded after the Conversation about the desperate revival Case, although that first of all she got shocked but then she seemed not Convinced at all and a bit of frustrated cuz she was sure that Shinichi and Conan are the same person
And the conclusion of this maybe direct us to a recklessness behaviour from Masumi incase Conan didn't do anything to stop her.
More excitingly the case itself Cuz Odori got poisoned and killed and although he got poisoned from his drink but there is no poison trace on the straw (the same thing happened in desperate rivival case)
More importantly is the investigation process which is a hint for a something bigger gonna happen soon which is the real trick of the first murder"
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,022-102X

Postby Nemomon » December 11th, 2018, 9:24 am

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Masumi surely knows that Shinichi is Conan, so now she needs to figure out who helped Conan. Too bad she didn't ask Ran if perhaps someone didn't disguise themselves as Shinichi (which would be a normal question, because if I know that someone can't be at 2 places during the same time, then if they are it must mean that someone else must be at one of that places). This question would actually make Ran unsure of things (even though it was Conan that was disguised and not Shinichi). But I'm glad that Ran once again things about that.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,022-102X

Postby Tantei San » Yesterday, 7:20 am

DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
Spoiler:
Both Ran and Masumi (and Mary, and perhaps even Shūkichi) have the potential to be wild cards, with respect to the upcoming clash between the Kudōs, Shūichi, Rei/Tōru/Bourbon, the Security Bureaus and the FBI and Rum and the BO. All of the Akai family should be in on this confrontation, and it wasn't too long ago that Ran recalled the incident at the pier (429–434/345—the closest she's gotten to getting involved in the BO plot) and actually saw through Vermouth's disguise (954–957/866–867).



That reminds me we still havent seen the aftermath of Amuro meeting the Kudos.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,022-1026

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » Yesterday, 10:35 pm

Tantei San wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
Spoiler:
Both Ran and Masumi (and Mary, and perhaps even Shūkichi) have the potential to be wild cards, with respect to the upcoming clash between the Kudōs, Shūichi, Rei/Tōru/Bourbon, the Security Bureaus and the FBI and Rum and the BO. All of the Akai family should be in on this confrontation, and it wasn't too long ago that Ran recalled the incident at the pier (429–434/345—the closest she's gotten to getting involved in the BO plot) and actually saw through Vermouth's disguise (954–957/866–867).



That reminds me we still havent seen the aftermath of Amuro meeting the Kudos.


Yep, Gosho's definitely saving the revelation of what happened in that meeting for when the big confrontation happens.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,022-1026

Postby AgOkami » Today, 7:30 pm

Spoiler:
Refreshing seeing a chapter ending with Conan so confused instead of the usual "Aha, so that's how it is."


DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
Tantei San wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
Spoiler:
Both Ran and Masumi (and Mary, and perhaps even Shūkichi) have the potential to be wild cards, with respect to the upcoming clash between the Kudōs, Shūichi, Rei/Tōru/Bourbon, the Security Bureaus and the FBI and Rum and the BO. All of the Akai family should be in on this confrontation, and it wasn't too long ago that Ran recalled the incident at the pier (429–434/345—the closest she's gotten to getting involved in the BO plot) and actually saw through Vermouth's disguise (954–957/866–867).



That reminds me we still havent seen the aftermath of Amuro meeting the Kudos.


Yep, Gosho's definitely saving the revelation of what happened in that meeting for when the big confrontation happens.


I honestly thought I had accidentally skipped a chapter after that meeting.

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