no, I don't mean that I mean to keep it simple
be using his logic okiya cannot be akai becuase gosho call him the red guy
blackmoon wrote:"Re: Rum Arc Discussion Thread (Plot + Characters)
Unread postby Zerozaki4869 » Today, 11:56 am
You didn't follow the thread and it doesn't concern you.(If anyone is making claims without reading what I've written then they are targeting me, not replying.)"
wait.... i'm losing you.... so are you basically trying to say that Kohiji is Kuroda, and Kuroda is Rum, so Rum is Kohiji? I'm totally confused here sorry...
I agree with this.dccd wrote:Well Zaki,
I think pretty much noone is targetting you on a personal basis.
Its only natural that a person who makes big guesses and acts
if those claims/ guesses/assumptions are facts will get tested a bit harder.
Ur current claim is: Kuroda is being portrayed as a Tsutomu-redherring by the manga.
I couldnt disagree more.
In the whole manga there is not one sentence or thought, not even a word, which puts
Kuroda in direct connection to Tsutomu.
Not even a _highlighted_ paralleled behaviour, absolutely nothing.
I agree with MTX: Kuroda, Rumi and Wakita are all being portrayed as Rum at times.
Kuroda - right after his intro - due to him fitting the descriptions and Conans reaction / later by the Bourbon-scene
Rumi - right after her intro - due to matching the supposed dying message and her similarity with Asaka / later by her aura / later by APTX-list
Wakita - right after his intro - by Conans thought, by the "closest to the boss"-Yaiba-thing, by him being Kogoros disciple (like Bourbon was).
Now, you can disagree all you want, but I dare you to disagree that "Haibara cleared Kuroda off BO affiliation much earlier."
I dare you to disagree with the fact that "Rum is a man, not an Woman."
Now, I am daring you to disregard these two "Narratives" before plunging further into Rum arc.
If you have done that, then this reply is pointless, then You don't follow the narrative at all.
yes, exactly, these are your suspects, not the narrative's.Zerozaki4869 wrote:So you can now see that whatever Kuroda and Rumi does to stay relevant as Rum suspects, you can't undermine that the narrative had already made them severely handicapped in that department. (Regarding Sherry's BO radar, well unlike cherry Blossom she was genuinely afraid of Kuroda, she was not at ease, meaning she was on guard. So BO radar not going on at that time means Kuroda is clear, again when Sherry met Kuroda at camping ground, her BO radar was already triggered by Rumi. Given she was trying to connect Rumi with Rum, meaning it came off Rumi not Kuroda.)
Now at the similar time two Non-Rum persons involved in the same case were introduced, one male and the other being supposedly female.
Both their aura's matched with Kuroda and Rumi's aura.
Also the three so called suspects were called into action after we got two extra players in Kohji case. If these three were called into action before the mention of Asaka and Tsutomu, then I would have entirely supported your line. But you can still disregard me, but the fact is that these three were being framed (as suspects) after the mention of Asaka and Tsutomu.
So you will have to acknowledge(you can disregard it all you ,like it's your opinion, but...) that Kuroda comes on as primarily the missing man suspect,with interest in Kohji case, Rumi comes off as a primarily supposed missing woman suspect, with interest in Kohji case. Because their Rum framing is just too feeble to begin with. Rather it is the indirect framing, Tsutomu=Kuroda, Rumi=Asaka at work.
Yes I think Wakita, Iori and Chikara are the only Rum suspects whose credentials are not severely hampered.
Wakita is framed as Rum, Iori is implied to be something more than his current position plus getting Rum body-type(effeminate man) which had taken a back-seat and Chikara as someone closely tied to Haneda case by his Shogi and having all three descriptions of Rum.
So yeah these three are my three Rum suspects.
I actually prefer to agree, so that I don't have to do the dirty work...Zerozaki4869 wrote:But you'll disagree because You want to disagree, end of the story.