Mafia! Mafia! Mafia! Character Role Discussions

[nomemory]

Ok, since we've agreed on a scent, will she know about Anokata? I remember that question being raised earlier...

Yeah, I asked xD

But which side would she count for in a victory? I'd assume that she's a Town role since she's a spy, but you never know.

Town side.

I agree with that.  I don't know about giving the hint to whoever, though.  I like the idea that it has to be Shinichi/Conan, Heiji, Eisuke, or FBI.  That's a pretty good group of people, I think.

Okay. How about she chooses 5 players and if one is Shinichi/Conan, Heiji, Eisuke or FBI then they will receive the hint. And if Vermouth is disguised as one of them - then she will receive the hint too.

Also, how about the same night. She chooses ONE player that will automatically receive the hint (BO member) is/isn't in the game.

I would assume Town as well.  It doesn't make much sense for her to be giving away BO roles, otherwise.

Correct, but it depends on Akonyl's decision.
Or whoever else started the game?

I think it depends on the GM of the next round, that person can decide to include or not include this role. Also how to change it.

[Edogawa4869]

I agree with that.  I don't know about giving the hint to whoever, though.  I like the idea that it has to be Shinichi/Conan, Heiji, Eisuke, or FBI.  That's a pretty good group of people, I think.

Okay. How about she chooses 5 players and if one is Shinichi/Conan, Heiji, Eisuke or FBI then they will receive the hint. And if Vermouth is disguised as one of them - then she will receive the hint too.

Also, how about the same night. She chooses ONE player that will automatically receive the hint (BO member) is/isn't in the game.

This section confused me a little bit.  Does this mean that of the 5 people she chose, if three of them were Shinichi, Eisuke, of James Black, only one of them would get it?  Or one other person, regardless of character will get the hint?

[Detective Tommy]

I agree with that.  I don't know about giving the hint to whoever, though.  I like the idea that it has to be Shinichi/Conan, Heiji, Eisuke, or FBI.  That's a pretty good group of people, I think.

But even in canon there's always a chance that she's revealed as a spy. Maybe we could add Gin and Vermouth to the group (and then maybe she could give out a hint to 2 people, to make up for that risk).

Remember, she can always leave a will behind.
So she can post which BO roles are in the game - when she dies.

So what are we deciding?
- She chooses 5 players who could receive the hint.
- Only Shinichi/Conan, Heiji, Eisuke, FBI and Vermouth (Disguised as Shinichi/Conan, Heiji, Eisuke, FBI) and Gin can receive the hint. Gin almost caught her on the phone before. So he's okay?
- She can choose 1 or 2 players that will automatically receive the hint - no matter the role?

[Akonyl]

as far as scents go, I don't see why she should have one, because as far as I know she's never been mentioned as having one.

Also, big no to "meeting" being a prep phase action, prep phase actions shouldn't be given unless it's needed. Because her input isn't needed, it could very well be a status (like james black's FBI leader), or a night 1 auto-action like irish's abduction.

and I'm against her being BO, that was the original idea with the character (vermouth could switch sides too), but the whole idea of a traitor character is a little imbalanced when they can just jump ship and give away everyone's identities.


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As far as the other BO I had in mind:

Elena Miyano
Master Poisoner
-Can use APTX capsules during the night

Atsushi Miyano
Mad Scientist
-WHen he successfully kills someone, the BO gains 1 APTX capsule.

Numabuchi Kichiro (or whatever his name is)
Serial Killer
-Numabuchi is omitted from the "BO must share kills" rule. Thus, he can kill every single night, never kill or any amount of times, no matter how many times other members have killed people.
Day Action: Hide

Hide:
-Numabuchi goes into hiding for the day phase it's used on, and the following night phase.
-While hiding, Numabuchi can have no actions done to him (treated as discombobulated), and can perform no actions.
-Hiding precedes arresting, so that if someone attempts to arrest him on the same day he hides, the arrest will fail.
-Special case: if numabuchi is lynched, he won't be able to hide
-Hide can only be done X times per game?

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The only problems with these roles is that theoretically, none of them should have a scent, which then makes haibara seem a little less useful.

[Detective Tommy]

This section confused me a little bit.  Does this mean that of the 5 people she chose, if three of them were Shinichi, Eisuke, of James Black, only one of them would get it?  Or one other person, regardless of character will get the hint?

Okay. Example:

- DTommy (Kir) chooses: Commi (Gin), Edogawa4869 (Akai), Conia (Conan), Yurikochan (Ran) and Kleene (Ayumi).
- Only Commi, Edogawa and Conia could receive the hint. BUT only ONE will receive the hint.

- DTommy also chooses 1 player or 2 players that will AUTOMATICALLY receive the hint.
- DTommy chooses: PhoenixTears (Vermouth) and/or nomemory (Jodie).
- Those 1 or 2 will automatically receive a hint that: (BO Member) is or isn't in the game.

[Commi-Ninja]

It seems like there should be some sort of consequence to Kir if the hint goes to a BO member, but I don't know what that could be.

[Dus]

I don't think we should include Elena or Atsushi at this point, too little is known about them.

Numabuichi (or whatever his name is) also seems way too powerful for a character that's so insignificant in the series.

Maybe Kir can't use her ability in the next phase if the BO receives a hint? Or she can only select three characters.

[Detective Tommy]

as far as scents go, I don't see why she should have one, because as far as I know she's never been mentioned as having one.

Makes sense. But Akai was BO before, and he has a scent now. So if Kir is currently BO, why doesn't she have a scent?
I'm just wondering. If you want her to be scent free, then I'm okay with it. Sucks if she's slandered. Lol..

Also, big no to "meeting" being a prep phase action, prep phase actions shouldn't be given unless it's needed. Because her input isn't needed, it could very well be a status (like james black's FBI leader), or a night 1 auto-action like irish's abduction.

Oh oops. I didn't notice that the ability was unnecessary. So does she receive the PM about what BO roles are in the game during Night 1? Or does she receive during Day 1? I think maybe it should be Day 1, because if she's killed during Night 1 - then she can't leave a will?

and I'm against her being BO, that was the original idea with the character (vermouth could switch sides too), but the whole idea of a traitor character is a little imbalanced when they can just jump ship and give away everyone's identities.

I agree - I think she should be town.

As far as the other BO I had in mind:

Elena Miyano
Master Poisoner
-Can use APTX capsules during the night

Atsushi Miyano
Mad Scientist
-WHen he successfully kills someone, the BO gains 1 APTX capsule.

Numabuchi Kichiro (or whatever his name is)
Serial Killer
-Numabuchi is omitted from the "BO must share kills" rule. Thus, he can kill every single night, never kill or any amount of times, no matter how many times other members have killed people.
Day Action: Hide

Hide:
-Numabuchi goes into hiding for the day phase it's used on, and the following night phase.
-While hiding, Numabuchi can have no actions done to him (treated as discombobulated), and can perform no actions.
-Hiding precedes arresting, so that if someone attempts to arrest him on the same day he hides, the arrest will fail.
-Special case: if numabuchi is lynched, he won't be able to hide
-Hide can only be done X times per game?

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The only problems with these roles is that theoretically, none of them should have a scent, which then makes haibara seem a little less useful.

Well, it's Haibara's parents. Maybe Haibara's ability can be customized too.
Or maybe, if her parents are in the game - she'll receive a tape message?

Also, I'm against Numabuchi Kichiro's night action about killing...

[Edogawa4869]

Numabuichi (or whatever his name is) also seems way too powerful for a character that's so insignificant in the series.

Yeah, Numabuchi seems WAY too powerful.  Theoretically, he could be the ONLY killer, making it somewhat harder to find things to arrest the BO members for (or so I think; remember, I've never actually played the game yet, so I wouldn't put too much weight behind my ideas).

[Detective Tommy]

It seems like there should be some sort of consequence to Kir if the hint goes to a BO member, but I don't know what that could be.

Well, the only consequence is that if the BO gets the hint.
She can't use her hint for X number of phases.

I don't think it's fair for her to be automatically killed by BO if they discover her in the game xD

Maybe Kir can't use her ability in the next phase if the BO receives a hint? Or she can only select three characters.

That's a possibility too, reducing her # of player choices.

[Commi-Ninja]

Numabuichi (or whatever his name is) also seems way too powerful for a character that's so insignificant in the series.

Yeah, Numabuchi seems WAY too powerful.  Theoretically, he could be the ONLY killer, making it somewhat harder to find things to arrest the BO members for (or so I think; remember, I've never actually played the game yet, so I wouldn't put too much weight behind my ideas).

No, you're right.  With the snipers, the only way to arrest them is for killing and poisoning.  Most of the others have secondary crimes, though.

[Detective Tommy]

Numabuichi (or whatever his name is) also seems way too powerful for a character that's so insignificant in the series.

Yeah, Numabuchi seems WAY too powerful.  Theoretically, he could be the ONLY killer, making it somewhat harder to find things to arrest the BO members for (or so I think; remember, I've never actually played the game yet, so I wouldn't put too much weight behind my ideas).

No, you're right.  With the snipers, the only way to arrest them is for killing and poisoning.  Most of the others have secondary crimes, though.

I'm still against his ability to kill every night.

[Detective Tommy]

Update:

* Hidemi/Kir, BO Traitor
Night action: Betrayal
Interrogation: BO
Scent: No
Disguise: No
Items: Gun, Car-keys, Headgear, Alcohol, Panties

* Betrayal
- Every night, she chooses up to 5 players that could possibly receive the hint that (BO member) in in the game. Only one will receive the hint.
- Only Conan/Shinichi, Heiji, Eisuke, James, Akai, Jodie, Camel, Vermouth (Disguised as one of the previously listed) and Gin can receive the hint.

What do you guys think about this these:
- If BO receives the hint, she can only choose 3 players each night for the remainder of the game OR she loses her betrayal ability for 1/2/3 night phases?
- She receives the list of BO members on Night 1 OR Day 1.

Anything else we need to discuss?


Akonyl, please correct/change anything.

[nomemory]

Update:

* Hidemi/Kir, BO Traitor
Night action: Betrayal
Interrogation: BO
Scent: No
Disguise: No
Items: Gun, Car-keys, Headgear, Alcohol, Panties

* Betrayal
- Every night, she chooses up to 5 players that could possibly receive the hint that (BO member) in in the game. Only one will receive the hint.
- Only Conan/Shinichi, Heiji, Eisuke, James, Akai, Jodie, Camel, Vermouth (Disguised as one of the previously listed) and Gin can receive the hint.

What do you guys think about this these:
- If BO receives the hint, she can only choose 3 players each night for the remainder of the game OR she loses her betrayal ability for 1/2/3 night phases?
- She receives the list of BO members on Night 1 OR Day 1.

Anything else we need to discuss?


Akonyl, please correct/change anything.

If she has the list, what stops her from telling people about it? I mean if she finds someone she can trust.

[Eve]

Update:

* Hidemi/Kir, BO Traitor
Night action: Betrayal
Interrogation: BO
Scent: No
Disguise: No
Items: Gun, Car-keys, Headgear, Alcohol, Panties

* Betrayal
- Every night, she chooses up to 5 players that could possibly receive the hint that (BO member) in in the game. Only one will receive the hint.
- Only Conan/Shinichi, Heiji, Eisuke, James, Akai, Jodie, Camel, Vermouth (Disguised as one of the previously listed) and Gin can receive the hint.

What do you guys think about this these:
- If BO receives the hint, she can only choose 3 players each night for the remainder of the game OR she loses her betrayal ability for 1/2/3 night phases?
- She receives the list of BO members on Night 1 OR Day 1.

Anything else we need to discuss?


Akonyl, please correct/change anything.

If she has the list, what stops her from telling people about it? I mean if she finds someone she can trust.

If I was Kir, first thing I would do is to send it everywhere......