Mafia - Round 9 (Town wins!)

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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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What's whit that 30 PM limitation again. And that 50000 character limitation for posts.... Why do I get all the limitiations? XD I talk too much huh? Guess I'm a real girl :x

If you didn't notice. 3 Townspeople died and no BO yet. Just a note.
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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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Akonyl wrote:
Detective Tommy wrote:
Akonyl wrote:
pofa wrote: In case it's not obvious, that second guy in Tommy's scenario was me. *waves hand*

We were all going to try and prove conia town via a bunch of investigations. You knew too, though, Akonyl. About my action, at least. But of course, so did conia and Tommy.
*checks PMs*

I'm not sure you sent me anything indicating your action to me, or at the very least I can't find it.
Hmmm, are you sure?
well if I say anything else in the matter, I don't see why I should say it in the thread rather than in a PM to pofa. :P
But if Pofa is lying about sending you a PM, he might be lying to me..........

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You didn't know the specific action, but I told you that I was involved in a plan to prove conia town last night.

It's not an accusation, just an observation. You're definitely not the one who's acting most suspicious out of that list.
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Kleene Onigiri wrote: If you didn't notice. 3 Townspeople died and no BO yet. Just a note.
I KNOW! I'm freaking out!
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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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Btw. you can post infos about the dream I send every day. You just have to not quote it and describe it in your own words.
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Okay, if you are TOWN and got a dream.
Post it right now. If you a new, you can post the name of the player and his/her role.

But don't copy+paste it.
It would help a lot, thanks.


So right now.. Conia and James Rye are most likely BO.
He lied about his actions. So I'm lynching Conia.

And if he IS BO, then James Rye is BO too.

And you guys have to continue the fight, I'm dead.

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a sure lot happened while i wasn't using the computer o.O
... someone killed my dear sister! darn it! i'm begining to think that BO doesn't like my family!
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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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So, here's something.

In a game like this, with 17 people, if there are 1/3 mafia (5), there need to be 11 townies alive (12 in our case because xpon is missing, if he's a townie) in order to lynch a BO. We're currently at 14 people alive. This means if we mess up this lynch, and someone gets killed tomorrow, we have one more shot to kill someone. So, we can very slightly afford to not lynch any BO until Day 3, given that no lovers die and nobody gets aptx'd.

However, if there are 1/3 mafia minus 1 (4), there only need to be 9 townies alive (10 in our case), and we can go without killing any mafia until Day 4 under the same circumstances. So we're not *completely* dead yet. And this may be the case, if the discussed rule in the discussion thread ended up going through.

So stop flipping out mister sebolians and james rye. It's not completely hopeless yet. :P
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Seems like xpon is still inactive. Never got in cantact with him since the beginning of the game. So I make a suggestion:

Either we leave it like it is and xpon is inactive. But this way the side he's on has a disadvantage.

So my suggestion:
If xpon has a ally from the beginning, like he's BO or a townie that got a ally, that ally may vote in his stead and may use his ability too.
If xpon doesn't have an ally, he'll be voting randomly for a person that has at least 1 vote from another player. Or it will be choosen randomly from all players that are alive (so he could vote for himself or someone else who isn't voted at all)

This is just a suggestion. So you can accept it or not. I'll do it depending what you, the players want.

Going to sleep now :)
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Akonyl wrote: So, here's something.

In a game like this, with 17 people, if there are 1/3 mafia (5), there need to be 11 townies alive (12 in our case because xpon is missing, if he's a townie) in order to lynch a BO. We're currently at 14 people alive. This means if we mess up this lynch, and someone gets killed tomorrow, we have one more shot to kill someone. So, we can very slightly afford to not lynch any BO until Day 3, given that no lovers die and nobody gets aptx'd.

However, if there are 1/3 mafia minus 1 (4), there only need to be 9 townies alive (10 in our case), and we can go without killing any mafia until Day 4 under the same circumstances. So we're not *completely* dead yet. And this may be the case, if the discussed rule in the discussion thread ended up going through.

So stop flipping out mister sebolians and james rye. It's not completely hopeless yet. :P
Let's review. Conia and Pofa know my role.

Conia told me his investigation, which I checked and came back as false.
Meaning he lied.

Since he knew my role, and he lied. I'll most likely die from APTX.
So I say we vote Conia, he's our highest suspect...

And if he is BO, then James Rye is BO too. Because:
conia wrote: Listen to me people: I'm a detective, which means I can investigate, and I used my investigations to prove James Rye and he is indeed a townie (Of course, I won't reveal my results).
And not only that, James Rye started to move us, the town, which his reasoning. He's a newbie here, and we all know what happens to the guy that tries to get something on Day 1: The BO blames him/her of being suspicious and finally gets lynched. So, let's stop this: Abs. reacted to James Rye reasoning and tried to put suspicion on him. As I've said earlier, James Rye is innocent. Remember last Round: xpon had Det.Tommy who proved his innocence, yet nobody believed him and got lynched. We can't let that happen again!

So, we have to lynch Abs.!
Also, since he accused Abs, Abs might be non-BO.

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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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Akonyl wrote: However, if there are 1/3 mafia minus 1 (4), there only need to be 9 townies alive (10 in our case), and we can go without killing any mafia until Day 4 under the same circumstances. So we're not *completely* dead yet. And this may be the case, if the discussed rule in the discussion thread ended up going through.
You mean the discussed rule being "1/3 town -1"? or another rule?

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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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Kleene Onigiri wrote: Seems like xpon is still inactive. Never got in cantact with him since the beginning of the game. So I make a suggestion:

Either we leave it like it is and xpon is inactive. But this way the side he's on has a disadvantage.

So my suggestion:
If xpon has a ally from the beginning, like he's BO or a townie that got a ally, that ally may vote in his stead and may use his ability too.
If xpon doesn't have an ally, he'll be voting randomly for a person that has at least 1 vote from another player. Or it will be choosen randomly from all players that are alive (so he could vote for himself or someone else who isn't voted at all)

This is just a suggestion. So you can accept it or not. I'll do it depending what you, the players want.

Going to sleep now :)
In real Mafia, if a Mafia member is inactive for period of time, he is presumed missing.
Want to do this instead?

I don't think it's fair that someone get's his vote+action.
And he is BO too most likely.

So my theory: Conia, James Rye and xPon is BO..
I hope people trust me,

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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Akonyl wrote: However, if there are 1/3 mafia minus 1 (4), there only need to be 9 townies alive (10 in our case), and we can go without killing any mafia until Day 4 under the same circumstances. So we're not *completely* dead yet. And this may be the case, if the discussed rule in the discussion thread ended up going through.
You mean the discussed role being "1/3 town -1"? or another role?
yeah, the discussed rule of having the number of BO be "1/3 town population - 1" instead of just "1/3 town population".
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Kleene Onigiri wrote: Seems like xpon is still inactive. Never got in cantact with him since the beginning of the game. So I make a suggestion:

Either we leave it like it is and xpon is inactive. But this way the side he's on has a disadvantage.

So my suggestion:
If xpon has a ally from the beginning, like he's BO or a townie that got a ally, that ally may vote in his stead and may use his ability too.
If xpon doesn't have an ally, he'll be voting randomly for a person that has at least 1 vote from another player. Or it will be choosen randomly from all players that are alive (so he could vote for himself or someone else who isn't voted at all)

This is just a suggestion. So you can accept it or not. I'll do it depending what you, the players want.

Going to sleep now :)
In real Mafia, if a Mafia member is inactive for period of time, he is presumed missing.
Want to do this instead?

I don't think it's fair that someone get's his vote+action.
And he is BO too most likely.

So my theory: Conia, James Rye and xPon is BO..
I hope people trust me,
I don't know what "real mafia" you're talking about, but in the "real" version of mafia that I play it takes around 20 minutes max, and has people sitting around in a circle, and nobody goes inactive anyway because they're sitting right there.
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Akonyl wrote: I don't know what "real mafia" you're talking about, but in the "real" version of mafia that I play it takes around 20 minutes max, and has people sitting around in a circle, and nobody goes inactive anyway because they're sitting right there.
Oh, I've played real Mafia with cards and all. And of course nobody goes inactive.

I also played Mafia on Facebook. And when someone is inactive for 10 minutes in the (3 minute phase) they go missing.

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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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Detective Tommy wrote:
Akonyl wrote:
Detective Tommy wrote: Don't lynch Abs. Lynch Conia.
any reason for that, mister says-no-reason?
Conia knows my role, so I'll probably die anyways.
But he told me something he investigated, but I investigated his action... and he lied.

I also told him something about a different character.
And that person's action was intimidated. Coincidence?
Sure, you do that Tommy. There's so many lies in here...
First, I want to apologize to everyone who PM me, Tommy included, because I can't load this website, and I tried EVERYTHING. I couldn't make it before the deadline...
Now using a proxy I'm able to log in, at an extremely low connection, but I can log in at least.

Point 1: You claimed to be a role after another person told me he/she was that role. This made you an instant prime suspect for me. I decided to investigate you (not literally)
Turns out you are trying to make alliances with lots of people, trying to find allies everywhere, but with that claimed role, you couldn't be able to prove to all of them.

Point 2: You never ceased to talk about the BO things, knowing things about them, while you tend to ask in the thread some things that look rather simple. Of course, BO members have to know everything they are able to do. This is a weak point, but it caught my attention.

Point 3: You asked, and not just once, to tell you my role while I told you mine. All along you knew I could investigate just like you claimed and an exchange of investigations would have been enough to proved ourselves, yet you insisted on giving out roles...

What can you say about this?
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