Espionage - Round 5 (Spy and Informants Win)

[dumytru]

Here's my question: Would you intentionally self-vote on day 1 where people are likely to vote random and chances are it'll kill you?

No.

[miyano_shiho]

I really want to join in making deductions but I have no time.

Here's my list anyway.

1. RoboG55
2. RainHeaven
3. Togop
4. PhantomWriter
5. dumytru
6. MoonRaven
7. Yuri Iwamoto

I think Togop might be the other informant... Should we vote for him or try to find out who the spy is from that assumption? (no point in asking now for me since I'll be going to sleep soon :V) As for the spy, I'm kinda suspecting... Fuji though I haven't really read the whole thread.

[Fujiwara]

@Miyano: Togop is definitely the other informant, no doubt about it. So voting him out doesn't help at all.

EDIT: Vote for Yuri with me? I listed my reasons below. If not, who are you planning to vote?

[dumytru]

There are quite q few people browsing this topic right now. I have to go in 30-45 minutes.

I have to decide who I'll vote untill then. I'm more inclined not to vote Fujiwara, than I was before. [but I haven't decided yet though].

@miyano. Do not vote Togop. He's 100% the #2 informant. Lynching him would be pointless.

[miyano_shiho]

@Miyano: Togop is definitely the other informant, no doubt about it. So voting him out doesn't help at all.

EDIT: Vote for Yuri with me? I listed my reasons below. If not, who are you planning to vote?

I just edited my post too and said I was suspecting you... :x I'll think about it.

[Raifuujin]

Not sure how much use it is to post this now, but here's my list.

1. Fujiwara
2. miyano_shiho
3. Togop
4. RainHeaven
5. MoonRaven
6. PhantomWriter
7. Stopwatch

As for who I'll vote..... I'm leaning towards Stop. Not because she's on my list, but more based on feeling. *isn't good with deducing things at all* :V

[dumytru]

Okay, I'm not sure who I should vote.
I already ruled Yuri (and other three), but what Fuji said made sense.

I just wonder if a spy who'd send the self-vote order would talk or keep silent in this situation(remember when Jd-s was the informant he kept silent for similar reasons).
What do you think?

[dumytru]

All right! I decided to go with Fuji's reasoning and vote for Yuri.

Make sure you say who you'll vote for, so that the last players sending the vote can make sure not to tie.

[Kleene Onigiri]

My PC died ;_; need to reinstall again *sob*

But I try to keep up and posting \o/

@fuji: It could be a strategy from togop, that's true. Then again, if SA really did a lucky hit with you being the spy, the infromant would try to defend you then, right? Or would you say, that Togop would defend the spy, even if the spy is in danger to get lynched? Considering Fuji was one of the first people being mentioned (if I remember correctly), the danger of getting lynched was high.

But I'm not 100% sure about Fuji being the spy :V We don't have any leads on that anyway ^^"

Another thing I noticed was, that Fuji immediately explained the vote on Moon, that she changed her vote in the last minute (even said it was me first and then changed it after my explanation). THo this can be read as both in favor of being the spy and not being the spy D: If Fuji isn't the spy, she would feel guilty and say what happened and stuff.
But if she's the spy, she would try to make herself more innocent. And liars usually talk and explain more about the lie than they should XD
(hm.. this info is kinda useless O_o")

Also, the self-voting order could also be a trick. It could be used as a strategy from the spy to make themselves look less likely to be the spy. In the way "Fuji, Stop etc. wouldn't give such an order, let's vote someone else" thing, and then Fuji/Stop is actually the spy :x

Not sure who to vote now oTL

[Iwamoto Yuri]

All right! I decided to go with Fuji's reasoning and vote for Yuri.

Make sure you say who you'll vote for, so that the last players sending the vote can make sure not to tie.

Spoiler:

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?!
I'm not sure you noticed but I actively started seeking out the spy this phase and barely even had time to vote in previous phases due to life sucking ass. Do you think I could have had time to look through the topic and see who my Informants we're let alone give them orders smart enough to not make me suspicious? I only had time to do stuff thanks to finally having a free weekend, (even though I mostly spent Saturday sleeping and working.





nevermind, who am I kidding. Fine, vote me, believe Fujiwara and kill a civilian who's been too caught up in life to keep up with what was happening until... erm, this phase?

Also, thank you if you guys kill me..

.... Sorry for this rant, I'm just really, really tired....

[Jecka]

Thus, the spy must be one of: Fujiwara, dumytru, Stopwatch, Jecka.
Now, I know that I'm not the Spy, so there are only three suspects for me.
I think it's either Stopwatch or Jecka.

Nope It ain't me. You guys wish it was me :V
Hmm .-. I'll leave it to chance to see who I'll vote

[Fujiwara]

@fuji: It could be a strategy from togop, that's true. Then again, if SA really did a lucky hit with you being the spy, the infromant would try to defend you then, right? Or would you say, that Togop would defend the spy, even if the spy is in danger to get lynched? Considering Fuji was one of the first people being mentioned (if I remember correctly), the danger of getting lynched was high.

No, of course it doesn't mean that I can't be the spy. I pointed it out because it means that his defense of me isn't an indication of my being the spy. That he would have defended me whether or not I am the spy. Also, if I were the spy, I would have ensured that he subsequently defended someone else as well, to take some of the heat off. In a pinch, I could have just accused someone myself and have Togop defend that person.

Also, the self-voting order could also be a trick. It could be used as a strategy from the spy to make themselves look less likely to be the spy. In the way "Fuji, Stop etc. wouldn't give such an order, let's vote someone else" thing, and then Fuji/Stop is actually the spy :x

Believe it or not, I didn't actually bring up the self-voting to exonerate myself. I brought it up as a possible lead on the spy and - for me - it makes dumytru and Stopwatch unlikely candidates for being the spy. I'd also be happy to hear your opinion on it - and feel free to include the possibility of it having been part of my evil master plan.

[Iwamoto Yuri]

Fuji, please refrain from voting me. If you really are a civilian you wouldn't want to kill one yourself, not now we have limited time to catch the real spy.

As I mentioned in my rant, I've been too busy and distracted to play properly, I barely took time to vote or read up on what people were saying. It took me until a bit before to find out Robo was dead already...
Do you really think I'm the spy?

[Fujiwara]

Fuji, please refrain from voting me. If you really are a civilian you wouldn't want to kill one yourself, not now we have limited time to catch the real spy.

As I mentioned in my rant, I've been too busy and distracted to play properly, I barely took time to vote or read up on what people were saying. It took me until a bit before to find out Robo was dead already...
Do you really think I'm the spy?

I'm not sure - I wish I were, but Espionage isn't the sort of game where you can be sure. But you're my best lead. Of the more or less active players, only Kleene is clearly a civilian, leaving you, me, dumytru and Stop. I know I'm not the spy, and of the remaining 3, you seem the most likely.

Of course, the spy could be one of the quiet players, in which case we're pretty much screwed. If the spy is one of the players who've said basically nothing, I might just give up on Espionage.

[Iwamoto Yuri]

Fuji, please refrain from voting me. If you really are a civilian you wouldn't want to kill one yourself, not now we have limited time to catch the real spy.

As I mentioned in my rant, I've been too busy and distracted to play properly, I barely took time to vote or read up on what people were saying. It took me until a bit before to find out Robo was dead already...
Do you really think I'm the spy?

I'm not sure - I wish I were, but Espionage isn't the sort of game where you can be sure. But you're my best lead. Of the more or less active players, only Kleene is clearly a civilian, leaving you, me, dumytru and Stop. I know I'm not the spy, and of the remaining 3, you seem the most likely.

Of course, the spy could be one of the quiet players, in which case we're pretty much screwed. If the spy is one of the players who've said basically nothing, I might just give up on Espionage.

tell me exactly why I seem most likely then...