Agent Lang ready to report
I wanted to give out some of my insights throughout the game, like a lot of people did in the graveyard, I suppose I was ready to die
First of all I wanted to find Nakamori to have Yuriko win her game, which was gonna be hard with Observe/SO, so looking for allies was inevitable. We went through all the players names, taking out people that would be too mean to kill N1, based on last rounds (Or if they hadn't played in a while). It's always mean tbh, but has to be done
We were also afraid of killing a townie, but had to take a risk. Yuriko also followed her bff list, and we finally decided on Gio. She didn't die and we actually were happy about it... Until we knew she was BO anyway
But for all we knew, a townie could have been saved. I stalked
observed Blue as a teen so felt confident to contact him. A couple of hours lates Yuriko tells me the full list of possible roles for Blue and half of them were BO, I panicked D: So right after contacting him I backed down and didn't tell him much
For voting Day 1, we agreed to vote together. Bold move for sure, and in fact it did help the BO in figuring us out, but we prioritized not getting randolynched D1. We ran through the player list again and decided on Jecka, but to give her the benefit of the doubt, I actually contacted Jecka, see what she had to say. She ended up agreeing on a check up of her action [Not an action swap, like it was said in the graveyard. Jecka never knew my ability] so we changed our voting target to Henry, luckily it didn't matter in the end.
Still happy about no murdering any townies, Yuriko had a feeling that Blurf could be BO, probably based on her comments on the Forum and Discord. They just seemed to be in favor of the BO, and apparently Yuriko wasn't the only one that noticed this, so Blurf was the kill target. Meanwhile, so to not act TOO suspicious to Jecka, I asked her to give me 3 abilities she could do. I told her I would get them all checked and would reply to her on D2 telling what her action was. I tried to imply I would Investigate them, but the idea was to just SO Jecka's target and deduce from there. Inv/SO/Discombobulate were the 3 alternatives Jecka told me and I asked her to use it on Gio, specifically because we wanted to SO Gio, thinking the BO might want to check her or maybe someone would protect her after being targeted N1, and go from there with any fished info.
But then... the breaking point started. After all actions were sent and agreed on on our part, an hour before phase change, Jecka contacts me saying she got a lead and is changing her target's action based on that lead. I went mad
What lead? Why change? Who asked you to change? WHO are you changing to? Jecka didn't want to say, so I implied that I would have to lynch her next Day
She finally opened up and told me her new target was Raiden and that her ability is Stakeout (I kept this to myself), that she was sorry and understood if I wanted to lynch her. With way too little time and way too many questions, I informed Yuriko and we agreed to change our SO to Raiden as well, since we still wanted to prove Jecka, or at least get to know what this lead was about. And oh boy, did things get worse...
Jecka dies. Second cop dies, when we were tasked to kill Nakamori already, and to top it all, Jecka's will makes it seem like I killed her, while not even mentioning this mysterious person that came to her with a lead!
I had to start doing something, so I invited people to talk to me. I had no problems telling the truth about the 3-actions-plan with Jecka, but I obviously didn't say how I was checking them. I also did this in hopes of Jecka's lead person to speak to me, and luckily for us, he did.
Ok Open your PMs
They are open
What did you ask jecka to do?
Straight to the action? Not even gonna ask how I ended up talking to her?
Ok how did you ended up talking to her?
I'm just saying, because neither her will nor my post said I asked to do anything :stuck_out_tongue:
And she did mention some last-minute PM arriving, conveniently I'm looking for said sender
An hour before cut-off, she told me that someone PM'd her with a lead
And asked her to change her action
I'm assuming this person was you
Yes that would be me, and it confirms that you were the other person
So it was Kamite that asked Jecka to change her SO to Raiden. We also knew that Raiden was investigated and tricked, but Kamite didn't know, and this was crucial to his "lead". So it was guessing time with Yuriko again before replying to Kamite. Here was my reasoning: Kamite had to be town. Why? Because a BO, being fully aware of the killing target 1 hour before phase change, would never ask said target to change her SO action just to try to "prove" Raiden and/or a trickster, they would never base their entire plan on the person that is dying. So I told Kamite the SO results that he lacked from Jecka, effectively telling him I could SO and that I trusted, at least 80%. I didn't exactly tell Kamite that I trusted him, but to almost every person that contacted me about Jecka, I told them I trusted Kamite as 80% town. If I had to be frank, I also hoped he would take the spotlight of the town, keeping the assassin in the shadows [Although the BO already knew a lot about Yuriko at this point anyway, boooo]. So, I started sharing more info with Kamite, but he kept being secretive and explaining his reasoning with few details
It was hard to trust him, but he HAD to be town, so we just pressed on, like that famous attorney used to say...
I think at this point, Blue revealed he had SI to me, which was great to know and based on the Observe, he could only be Sera, Vermouth-Sera or ShadowSeraman. His role was important and I wanted him to trust me so he would tell me more, so I agreed to vote alongside him as a way to show trust and we ultimately decided to vote for Blurf over Meems or DA. Meanwhile Yuriko was voting DA (We thought about voting together again but she sided with Raiden to vote and I did with Blue, so ended up split for the better good) and I told Callid that Yuriko planned to lynch DA so he followed along. The reason being that DA almost didn't reply to both of them. But timezones are a thing and after Yuriko talked more to Raiden and then to Iwa, they all went for the vote on Kleene, just because they felt something was off with her. On my part, Kleene was the only one that questioned my Jecka approach, while the rest of the people that talked to me accepted that I didn't kill her. This didn't make me feel off about her, she questions me always
But I did slip to Dumi, Callid and Kamite that I didn't think her as town at the moment, that could have snowball'd Kamite into voting her too, since he originally wanted to vote for Raiden. First BO down \o/ I also told Callid before Day 2 ended, but after he left to bed, that Yuriko had changed her vote to Kleene and that I was sorry he couldn't follow the voting like he wanted, but I guess I don't feel bad about that anymore
Now that I had a better alliance with Blue, he told me that he Detected Gin and Vermouth, both in. I kept discussing things with Yuriko and relaying info to Kamite, also asked him to give me his will in case he got erased, but he declined. I tried hinting at him to see if he knew Nakamori, but wouldn't say. We didn't have much to go for with actions and Yuriko decided to kill DA. Turns out Kamite actually survives against all odds (He did mention to me he was getting protected) and DA was Gio's Lover... BO/Town lovers dead, no need to feel bad for killing a townie
2nd BO down \o/ And it also helped the BO to get rid of a huge threat before panicking started. I guess everyone won? Except Henry, it was hospital time for him.
At this time, after some very intense Day 2 and Night 3, I slowed down myself. Didn't talk a lot with people, just Yuriko, and watched the game develop a bit more. Callid claimed to have SO, which set me off... ANOTHER SOer in play? Difficult to think he could also be town, so I started distrusting him, which lead to him trying to convince Kamite and Yuriko that I was Anokata manipulating them and Kamite even asking Yuriko if I was her BFF and not someone else. That was.... hilarious
But that started sealing the deal for him. Cinna was just someone off the radar as far as I knew, like DA was before dying and like Stoppy at that point, but she was getting tricked. So we coordinated for Cinna and woot! 3rd BO down \o/ We also knew through FU that Stoppy investigated Raiden, so another contender to be Nakamori, while I FU'd that Kamite did not interrogate Moon on N3. So yeah, even after allying on D2, I still was secretly checking on his actions
Night 4 we finally did what we were hesitating to do since D2... Trust Kamite. He mentioned bargaining with the assassin, since he knew about every role in the town, so I accepted his offer and told him I
Yuriko was the assassin. They talked and agreed to kill Nakamori N5, so Yuriko could be removed from the game and Nakamori should get one arrest on N5 before dying, or well at least I planned for that last part. Thing is, Kamite did not trust Yuriko not to kill Nakamori, even if I told him before he even hatched a plan that she wasn't killing a cop on Night 4. In the end, it was agreed for Yuriko to kill Blurf N4 and then she would get to know who Nakamori is, which is a plan I did not agree with, but we were originally going to kill Blurf anyway, so I guessed it was ok regardless... Blurf did end as BO so 4th BO down \o/ And Kamite did die this time, with an outdated will, so much for all his info
Still thanks for the alliance, it helped the town.
So it was finally FINALLY time to learn about Nakamori, right? RIGHT? KAMITE?! Yeah no, no one told us anything shortly after Kamite's death. Again I was mad at this
And our voting options were Dumi (Possibly disguised as a healer) or Stop (Confirmed to investigate). Her confirmed investigation + supposedly inactiveness could, COULD, mean that she was Nakamori that wasn't pinching, so I asked for Stop to be voted, hoping Yuriko's vote on her lynch could remove her from the game. Also with Callid being arrested for Kamite's death, it meant even less chances of getting towns poisoned, if Stop wasn't Nakamori but BO, it would mean all the BO was gone.
I was wrong. OH so wrong. And cocky too. Watching BOs drop 1 by 1 each phase in a row was just too good for the town, and with hopefully only one more to go, the game was sealed. I honestly felt we had already won the game at that point, so, EVEN AFTER Fuji came up to Yuriko to confirm that she was Nakamori, I still kept the voting on Stop, even knowing that Dumi was a better target now that Naka was confirmed to us. THAT was arrogance, and it was close to costing us the game. Even more, I lost my best ally, the one I wanted to see win from the very start.
Again I was mad
And told Fuji to arrest Dumi for poisoning Yuriko right away, as he should be the last BO alive, so he was the only person that could have poisoned. NOW the game should be sealed, but I didn't want to waste the town's actions so I asked them to double-check disguises and to Interro Blue, even knowing he was Sera. I almost asked the 2 protectors to protect Fuji and Eko, as the BO simply could not make a comeback with 2 cops alive Even if they visited the Cop hospital
. Dumi arrested, 6th BO down \o/
OH BOY WAS I WRONG AGAIN.
There was more. 1 more. 1 infiltrator between us. Who is it? How did they do it? I know a lot of players and GMs
went through much worse situations during this game, but let me tell you that having to go back to distrust all your allies is very unpleasant
Luckily, the arrest on Dumi meant he was Vermouth, so with no disguise in play, it was easier to finally prove everyone. Moon was proved by InterroSO, Meme by Observe, Blue by InterrObserveTigation, Eko and Fuji arrested the last 2 BOs and thanks to the assassin I had confirmed that Nakamori was in the game. Only Raiden and Henry remained "less" proven. Both protects of N1 and N3 respectfully.
I came up with a plan: Let's make no one vote. That would mean no townie gets lynched, unless someone tried voting. I was basically leaning towards giving up a town to be lynched (Plus a townie poisoned) for a lead that would seal the game. If no leads happened, only a poison would happen, and both cops could arrest for said poison, or at least one could if the other resulted poison. Something I saw a lot of people mention was to use HS, which I thought about, but I would never go with HS over Arrest, because HS can be stopped, Arrest cannot. We had the crime, just had to figure out the target.
I talked to Eko about this plan and she seemed ok with it, but as I was checking back on logs to know who was proven, I saw that Dumi claimed being tricked on N1. Then I remembered when we discussed this back on N3, how Dumi got tricked by the BO trickster since Moon was already proved as the town trickster. But now we knew that Dumi was BO, and that the BO trickster was Vodka, who was no less than Gio, the... attacked person on N1.
Something wasn't right. We know that either Raiden or Henry lied about protecting their targets, since they last BO roles remaining were Pisco/Tequila/Chianti/Akemi/Sherry, no one could have stopped Yuriko from killing Gio, yet she was saved. The first conclusion is that Lovey Dovey saved her, which was entirely possible, but why would Raiden cover up for a BO/Town Lover? As far as we knew, BO/Town Lovers acted on their own, as they should. BO would want them dead, not covered up.
Henry had already told us that he didn't send actions on N1, so while not exactly cleared up from possibilities, he really didn't have a reason to lie about protecting. He also had been pretty straightforward with information, maybe TOO straightforward
*Removes "I'm Makoto" sign from Henry's forehead*
No other town role could have saved Gio's life, since I knew them all at that point, only Raiden (Ran) could have. But taking into account that Dumi lied about being tricked, because Gio would never actually trick Dumi because that's a Lover suicide on N1, it means the lie had to mean something. I probably sounded like Phoenix Wright trying to find some sense into this but a lead is all I needed.
Dumi had only healed BO people from what we knew (Blurf N2, Cinna N3), which is exactly what made Yuriko distrust him when I talked to him. If Dumi lied and actually sent a heal action, the trend should continue to be other BO, like Gio... And this mindset made sense since the BO always knew the assassin was in [ACTUALLY the assassin was always in no matter what, which is something I personally misread
I read "Assassin MAY be in if 15 players are reached. That was my bad and I probably passed that wrongdoing to other players in my attempts to hide the assassin. Sorry PT
]. So, IF Dumi did heal Gio N1, but claimed tricked to hide it, that solves the discrepancy of how did Gio survive N1 if it wasn't Raiden that saved her. This is why between Henry and Raiden, I asked the town to lynch Raiden. It wasn't evidence, it was a lead, based on the logic that I explained above. One lead is all I needed, only something that would pull the weight's balance to either Rai or Henry. If it failed and a cop died poisoned, plus BO bribing the other cop to ensure no arrest happens, we still had Moon, Meme, blue and me to vote the remaining suspect, so I think the game would be sealed. I think. I dunno, I'm tired of thinking X_X
I think that's all my summary of this game. Again thanks to everyone playing! And a few extra mentions:
- Kamite you need to rework your strategy
What you call a lead, usually isn't one by most people standards. Same with saying someone is proven. It is ok for you to believe it and adapt your playstyle accordingly, but you can't expect others to follow along easily. Other than that, glad we could help the townies
- Yuriko my BFF <3 Having a partner always at the ready to discuss all Mafia things is one the most enjoyable things in this game. You helped way too much, I wish I could have helped as much in your cause.
- Got a new appreciation for Dumitru, he is more threatening that I would have liked to admit. That quote in his signature was no joke after all, I'll be more wary from now on!
- Having a GM meeting all the deadlines, answering PMs quick, organizing all the PMs and Discord changes without a fault, all of that is some very dedicated work that shouldn't be overlooked. PT You have my thanks for this game!
- The assassin: I saw a lot of ideas being thrown around and I can agree that it needs nerfing, seeing her in close-action. Just want to remind everyone that this thread exists
for the future GM to take into consideration!
- And as a final note, I hope everyone recovers from their various illnesses and exhaustions that happened throughtout the game. Mafia is important, but so is your health!