He said that Rum has already appeared,... HOWEVER....during that time, he drew "Lum" dressed as a BO member(to make a pun on the pronunciation of "Rum"), so it's assumed by many that it was joke referring to the "Rum"/"Lum" that he drew recently(at that time), not the actual "Rum" from DC.haibaralove wrote:I don't want to know any spoilers about Rum...like who is he or who he maybe...but i want to ask one question
Rum has strong built,feminine and maybe old...as per Haibara..this is the only thing I know
Did Gosho ever said that Rum has already appeared before(the episodes even before Haibara mentioned about him)
just want to know..so that i can shortlist my suspect list
thank you
Thank you for reply coz with so many Rum suspects increasing chapter by chapter..i just wanted to knowMeiTanteixX wrote: He said that Rum has already appeared,... HOWEVER....during that time, he drew "Lum" dressed as a BO member(to make a pun on the pronunciation of "Rum"), so it's assumed by many that it was joke referring to the "Rum"/"Lum" that he drew recently(at that time), not the actual "Rum" from DC.
It's still a possibility that Rum has already appeared before the intro of the main Rum suspects, but we can't rely on what Gosho said. The fact that it would mean that Gosho ruined the mystery of the Rum arc if what he said is true, I think it's more safer to bet that Rum didn't appear before Rum arc suspects appeared.
From my point of view this is incorrect.haibaralove wrote:
Rum has strong built,feminine and maybe old...as per Haibara..this is the only thing I know
Too young, and has seen Shiho/Ai, very much up close (File 925–File 927/Episode 822–Episode 823).Swagnarok wrote:Ryusuke Higo.
His dad was the original Rum, Ryusuke never met Shiho while she was in the BO. When Rum 1.0 died, the Boss kept it a secret because fear of Rum was what kept many of his subordinates in line. Instead, he claimed that Rum was given a long overseas mission, and in the meanwhile he had Ryusuke trained to one day become Rum 2.0. Only recently did he become ready, after which it was claimed that Rum had returned to Japan, and upon hearing this Kir sent the text to Akai.DCUniverseAficionado wrote:Too young, and has seen Shiho/Ai, very much up close.Swagnarok wrote:Ryusuke Higo.
To think of it! your RUM 2.0 theory seems to set but i dont' think so with Ryusuke Higo. he would have barely gotten any time for that purpose.And Soccer Ramu well you are that brilliant detective cheers to it. And besdes as long the football world I know, to kill someone 17 years ago, ryusuke would be 4-5 years old.I don't think so that the boss would be so desperate to make a 5 year old kid his 2nd in command. Meh.!?Swagnarok wrote:His dad was the original Rum, Ryusuke never met Shiho while she was in the BO. When Rum 1.0 died, the Boss kept it a secret because fear of Rum was what kept many of his subordinates in line. Instead, he claimed that Rum was given a long overseas mission, and in the meanwhile he had Ryusuke trained to one day become Rum 2.0. Only recently did he become ready, after which it was claimed that Rum had returned to Japan, and upon hearing this Kir sent the text to Akai.DCUniverseAficionado wrote:Too young, and has seen Shiho/Ai, very much up close.Swagnarok wrote:Ryusuke Higo.
The message U MASCARA had two possible meanings: the first was ASACA RUM, which implicated Asaka in the murder and made it look like he was Rum. For this reason, the BO didn't tamper with the dying message. However, it could also read SACA RAMU. This is based off of Romaji rendering of the English words soccer (sakka) and rum (ramu). That is, "soccer rum". Kohji was hoping that one day some brilliant detective could figure this out and avenge his death.
I'm aware this theory more likely than not is totally incorrect, but it's technically a feasible resolution to the Rum arc.
Even so, he should've been made aware of what she looked like, being the second in command, at some point before her "death" in Mystery Train (File 818–File 824/Episode 701–Episode 704).Swagnarok wrote:His dad was the original Rum, Ryusuke never met Shiho while she was in the BO. When Rum 1.0 died, the Boss kept it a secret because fear of Rum was what kept many of his subordinates in line. Instead, he claimed that Rum was given a long overseas mission, and in the meanwhile he had Ryusuke trained to one day become Rum 2.0. Only recently did he become ready, after which it was claimed that Rum had returned to Japan, and upon hearing this Kir sent the text to Akai.DCUniverseAficionado wrote:Too young, and has seen Shiho/Ai, very much up close.Swagnarok wrote:Ryusuke Higo.
to clarify, the image of Lum as a Bo member was actually drawn in 2011MeiTanteixX wrote: He said that Rum has already appeared,... HOWEVER....during that time, he drew "Lum" dressed as a BO member(to make a pun on the pronunciation of "Rum"), so it's assumed by many that it was joke referring to the "Rum"/"Lum" that he drew recently(at that time), not the actual "Rum" from DC.
He may've seen pictures of Sherry taken a relatively short time prior to her defection, but he wouldn't necessarily have any idea what she looked like as a child. Even if he did see a picture of 8 year old Shiho at some point and then recently saw Haibara, he might not necessarily make the connection. For example, Haibara has a perm, which to my knowledge isn't really a natural human hairstyle (see movie 5). As such, she might've had a different hairstyle 10 years ago. Or, Higo might be bad at remembering faces (see Gin, episode 345). Or, even if he thought Haibara looked just like young Sherry he might just think it's a coincidence, since the BO apparently doesn't know about the secondary effect of APTX-4869.DCUniverseAficionado wrote:Even so, he should've been made aware of what she looked like, being the second in command, at some point before her "death" in Mystery Train (File 818–File 824/Episode 701–Episode 704).Swagnarok wrote:His dad was the original Rum, Ryusuke never met Shiho while she was in the BO. When Rum 1.0 died, the Boss kept it a secret because fear of Rum was what kept many of his subordinates in line. Instead, he claimed that Rum was given a long overseas mission, and in the meanwhile he had Ryusuke trained to one day become Rum 2.0. Only recently did he become ready, after which it was claimed that Rum had returned to Japan, and upon hearing this Kir sent the text to Akai.DCUniverseAficionado wrote:Too young, and has seen Shiho/Ai, very much up close.Swagnarok wrote:Ryusuke Higo.
So Hidemi/Rena/Kir knows that he's Rum? When did she find that out?
When Shiho/Ai says that "they know my youthful face," I doubt the BO's second in command, new and young or otherwise, would be excluded from that.Swagnarok wrote:
He may've seen pictures of Sherry taken a relatively short time prior to her defection, but he wouldn't necessarily have any idea what she looked like as a child. Even if he did see a picture of 8 year old Shiho at some point and then recently saw Haibara, he might not necessarily make the connection. For example, Haibara has a perm, which to my knowledge isn't really a natural human hairstyle (see movie 5). As such, she might've had a different hairstyle 10 years ago. Or, Higo might be bad at remembering faces (see Gin, episode 345). Or, even if he thought Haibara looked just like young Sherry he might just think it's a coincidence, since the BO apparently doesn't know about the secondary effect of APTX-4869.
