Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 931-935

[saorin]

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any possible explanation to the zombie attack trick?

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Whether it's a trick or not is yet to be seen but it's either alot of background characters arriving for the filming or it's not even really happening.

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Who would stay in-character when arriving for the filming instead of during the filming itself?

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Maybe those are nerds fans that are doing a pilgrimage, like Kogoro suggested earlier? He said that rumours of the sequel had sparked recently, so maybe that's why?

[jimmy_kud0_tv2]

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any possible explanation to the zombie attack trick?

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Whether it's a trick or not is yet to be seen but it's either a lot of background characters arriving for the filming or it's not even really happening.

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Who would stay in-character when arriving for the filming instead of during the filming itself?

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Its a low budget C-rank horror film. Chances are, there was a casting call put out by the murderer that said that people could be in the movie if they arrive in costume and in character for the filming (this way the studio would not have to pay them) and to remain outside. Also the casting call probably included something like that they need to remain in character at all times until they hear the word "cut" or something. In this way, we can have an entire chapter in which Ran, Kazuha, Kogoro, and the film crew can be convinced that zombies are actually real. If the people on the outside, the zombies, hear any screaming they will probably just interpret that its all of the actors, whom they haven't met, being filmed inside the house reacting to them. They know from the last movie that the male character died, and that Yoko is not going to be in this movie, so they can expect to not actually recognize the actors.

I feel like the events of the next chapter may closely mirror the events of the first movie that we saw at the beginning of ch931. The zombies don't actually breach the house, they merely stand in the window blocking the view to outside. Then someone inside the house will "become" a zombie, probably the currently dead producer, and they will get blamed for anything else that may happen in this case. Then it will turn out that the actual murderer will be someone else.

[k11chi]

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any possible explanation to the zombie attack trick?

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Whether it's a trick or not is yet to be seen but it's either alot of background characters arriving for the filming or it's not even really happening.

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Who would stay in-character when arriving for the filming instead of during the filming itself?

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I doubt they're going to be in-character next chapter. It's not like any of the characters have seen them yet to confirm what they look like. And in these cases you can only trust for Heiji/Conan/Kogoro (the detectives of the story) to tell the truth...

[Max1996]

I checked the spoilers and I stand corrected.

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It does make sense to arrive in-character for an audition

[jimmy_kud0_tv2]

spoilers have hit
also apparently due to holiday reasons
we got everything early, file 933 chinese is already out on baidu

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Heiji has the sword!
Heiji fights the zombies
Conan kicks a ball at them
Heiji decapitates one of the zombies
the zombies are there for extras auditions
The camera woman is dead
her phone captured a video of the producer, now a zombie, attacking her
the producer's body has disappeared
No break next week

[inspirit]

!	Message from: Kor
	Asking where you can find and read files is forbidden.

didn't know

[DCUniverseAficionado]

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Seems that the camerawoman's not the culprit. Don't tell me she's going to appear as a zombie, next...

The video could've been from an earlier point in time, when her and the producer were still alive, and they were filming a scene like that for some reason. The only other possibility is a disguise, and unless Vermouth is somehow mixed up in all this... ... I don't think that anyone could've disguised themselves so well.

Still no police... maybe next file, now that two bodies have hit the floor?

First Kawanakajima, now this... 2015 was one of the bloodiest years, huh?

[jimmy_kud0_tv2]

File 933?? Can someone tell me where i can read file 932? Is the trans is out already?

it hasnt been translated yet

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Seems that the camerawoman's not the culprit. Don't tell me she's going to appear as a zombie, next...

The video could've been from an earlier point in time, when her and the producer were still alive, and they were filming a scene like that for some reason. The only other possibility is a disguise, and unless Vermouth is somehow mixed up in all this... ... I don't think that anyone could've disguised themselves so well.

Still no police... maybe next file, now that two bodies have hit the floor?

First Kawanakajima, now this... 2015 was one of the bloodiest years, huh?

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Conan told Ran to ask one of the zombies to call the police according to Presumenothing
so maybe police soon

the blood stain on the wall matches up to well with what is on the tape, so I don't know if I buy the idea that it was filmed in advance
unless the blood stain has somehow been on the wall the whole time and was covered somehow.

Also, the Producer is wearing a different set of pants
In the video of him poisoning himself, we can see that he wears jeans with a belt (look at the Jap raw, you can see it better)
and in this chapter's video, he is wearing completely black pants.

Also, the camera woman is wearing a different shirt than she was earlier.
She was wearing a grey spotted shirt, and now she wears a white one which is in the video
given the way the blood lines up, I want to say the shirt was changed before the murder rather
than the murderer changing the clothes afterword

[DCUniverseAficionado]

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the blood stain on the wall matches up to well with what is on the tape, so I don't know if I buy the idea that it was filmed in advance unless the blood stain has somehow been on the wall the whole time and was covered somehow.

Also, the Producer is wearing a different set of pants
In the video of him poisoning himself, we can see that he wears jeans with a belt (look at the Jap raw, you can see it better)
and in this chapter's video, he is wearing completely black pants.

Also, the camera woman is wearing a different shirt than she was earlier.
She was wearing a grey spotted shirt, and now she wears a white one which is in the video
given the way the blood lines up, I want to say the shirt was changed before the murder rather
than the murderer changing the clothes afterword

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The producer appears quite dead, when he's found—I really don't think he could've faked that... is there a way he could have? Him being the murderer after faking his death seems a bit obvious, now, anyway.

The changing clothes is part of the trick, undoubtedly.

Maybe if it was filmed in advance, the person filming it is the murderer—the reason I suggest it was is because it could have been duplicated, this time, except it was for real, and how she was killed was very different.

[jimmy_kud0_tv2]

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On second look, maybe the blood splatters don't line up that well
there is a diagonally downward line of blood on the right side of the stain
on the video, this is not present on the wall the way it is now

however that extra blood part in the video looks like it has
some voids in it. I want to think that that part was wiped away
rather then the killer had time to recreate a whole blood splatter scene
but decided not to finish it properly

I think the producer is rather dead. His body is probably hidden in the same place that the body of the director's younger brother was hidden
during the case from the past. I still like the idea that the person in the video is wearing a disguise rather than it being old footage. If they did make a zombie movie like that in the past, it would be incredibly out of character for the zombie to approach the camera phone and smile into it. It looks far more like a person who is pretending to be a zombie who wants you to believe that the producer faked his death and is now killing people.

The producer was probably the one to kill the director's younger brother. However on page 13 of 932, the camera woman says something strange She is asked what she knows. She says she won't answer, then she ends up dead.

I'm going with the idea that these were done by the light staff woman Baisho Orie. She starts off by being the first person to mention that they don't want spectators. After we learn that Kogoro is sick, she is the one that visits the room to tell them that they need to be quiet. This could be a way of checking on them. Then, after the filming, she is the first person to mention that they should take a break even though its a bit early. This could give her time to set up further murders. She also speaks about what the dead (previous) club president would be happy about, being that his older brother is directing the movie.

[DCUniverseAficionado]

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I still like the idea that the person in the video is wearing a disguise rather than it being old footage. If they did make a zombie movie like that in the past, it would be incredibly out of character for the zombie to approach the camera phone and smile into it.

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I mean they shot it in the past on a phone—not for public distribution via film, hence the smile into the phone at the end.

If that is someone else in disguise, then they have Vermouth/Kid-level disguise ability, because none of the suspects look anything like the producer... it would have to be an elaborate disguise. This is why I favor the video from the past theory.

[jimmy_kud0_tv2]

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I still like the idea that the person in the video is wearing a disguise rather than it being old footage. If they did make a zombie movie like that in the past, it would be incredibly out of character for the zombie to approach the camera phone and smile into it.

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I mean they shot it in the past on a phone—not for public distribution via film, hence the smile into the phone at the end.

If that is someone else in disguise, then they have Vermouth/Kid-level disguise ability, because none of the suspects look anything like the producer... it would have to be an elaborate disguise. This is why I favor the video from the past theory.

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If they were shot in the past, and that the producer is dead, how would you explain that the murderer knows about the videos, but that all of the other suspects don't know? If they were from the past, presumably the camera woman would have known about the first video as the context for the second one. Why wouldn't she have said anything?

we really need all of 932 translated, there are so many reactions that all of the suspects make that make me think that we are missing stuff.

[DCUniverseAficionado]

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I still like the idea that the person in the video is wearing a disguise rather than it being old footage. If they did make a zombie movie like that in the past, it would be incredibly out of character for the zombie to approach the camera phone and smile into it.

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I mean they shot it in the past on a phone—not for public distribution via film, hence the smile into the phone at the end.

If that is someone else in disguise, then they have Vermouth/Kid-level disguise ability, because none of the suspects look anything like the producer... it would have to be an elaborate disguise. This is why I favor the video from the past theory.

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If they were shot in the past, and that the producer is dead, how would you explain that the murderer knows about the videos, but that all of the other suspects don't know? If they were from the past, presumably the camera woman would have known about the first video as the context for the second one. Why wouldn't she have said anything?

we really need all of 932 translated, there are so many reactions that all of the suspects make that make me think that we are missing stuff.

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Yes, we need File 932 translated.

Are you saying that the murderer disguised themselves as a zombified producer?... that's a pretty good disguise for a non-makeup person. Plus, I don't get your point about the knowledge of the videos—do you mind explaining what you're getting at?

[jimmy_kud0_tv2]

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If they were shot in the past, and that the producer is dead, how would you explain that the murderer knows about the videos, but that all of the other suspects don't know? If they were from the past, presumably the camera woman would have known about the first video as the context for the second one. Why wouldn't she have said anything?

we really need all of 932 translated, there are so many reactions that all of the suspects make that make me think that we are missing stuff.

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Yes, we need File 932 translated.

Are you saying that the murderer disguised themselves as a zombified producer?... that's a pretty good disguise for a non-makeup person. Plus, I don't get your point about the knowledge of the videos—do you mind explaining what you're getting at?

Presumenothing did some more partial translating and summarizing!!!
http://presumenothing.tumblr.com/post/1 ... es-932-933
Obviously there are spoilers at the link

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yes I was saying that the murderer disguised.

what I was trying to say is that if there is old footage being used, how did the murderer find out about the footage existing, but that the other members do not know about it? If anyone knew that there had been footage like this, wouldn't they recognize it and know that it wouldn't have been recorded recently

If the Camera Woman had helped film that scene in which she was killed sometime in the past, would it not be possible that she would have had knowledge of the other video, the producer killing himself, which would be the context for why he is a zombie in the second film? If she had known about those two recordings, why wouldn't she have said anything?

Also, how would you explain that the phones were still recording? Conan and Heiji's voices were recorded on the end of the recording. Is it actually possible to put a recording on a phone and place the camera phone at about the same angle, and then continue recording on the same file?

Apparently there is footage missing from a film they tried to make 8 years ago, that film was meant to be a zombie horror movie, but the younger brother guy suddenly suggested that they do a mystery genera movie instead. The camera woman says in 932 that if they could see the footage from the movie back then, they might be able to discover why the producer suicided, however, she refuses to elaborate on how.

apparently the camera woman did not change shirt, she was wearing two shirts, the top layer shirt that she was wearing is now on the floor next to where the producer's body was, along with a blood covered pen-knife.

[Stopwatch]

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I wonder when the first death happened if there was a trapdoor involved and the bookcase was moved over it? Idk. I am liking this case so far though :3.

Also, if the producer was supposed to fake his suicide at first for part of the prank and it backfired (hence the woman saying there was something she couldn't reveal yet about the footage). Eh, there's a reason I don't usually guess at this stuff.