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-Ran crying...again. A 4-5 year old girl crying for the dumbest things certainly makes sense but having a story of their first meeting where she wasn't forced into the role of the eternal crying girl would have been much better.
-Shinichi the eternal problem solver and it's portrayed awfully too : the panel with the kids looking up at Shinichi-sama has got to be one of the most idiotic panels in the history of this series.
tl;dr : Awful gimmicks for both characters. Cliché, cliché and more cliché.
-Flashback seems pulled out of nowhere. We'll see how that one ends up with the next files...
Positive aspect : presence of Eri and Yukiko...and that's about it. Ran looks nice on the cover too.
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"I wonder if there really is a God...
If such an entity really existed, wouldn't all honest, hard-working people be happy?"
Starts with Shinichi/Conan, Ran, Sonoko and Masumi walking through a forest, which eventually leads to a flashback of what apparently are kindergarten Shinichi and Ran.
I can't tell more than that, because I was only able to find a few pictures while searching the net, and I can't read Japanese.
“Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent. We would not dare to conceive the things which are really mere commonplaces of existence. If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chains of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outre results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable.”
“Education never ends... it is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last.”
― Arthur Conan Doyle, The Complete Adventures of Sherlock Holmes and His Last Bow
"I have decided to stick to love... hate is too great a burden to bear."
— Martin Luther King Jr. (A Testament of Hope: The Essential Writings and Speeches of Martin Luther King, Jr)
Yukiko is immortal! She didn't change at all despite that this chapter's her appearance is from like 12 years ago.
I wouldn't be surprised if it will turn out that Yukiko and Vermouth are siblings even without knowing that. They both:
- stopped aging
- are actresses
- are masters of disguise
- know each other and are friends (and seems Vermouth is hesitant about killing Yukiko)
My dad’s a soldier blue I’ll be a soldier, too
When I grow older you will see me rescue you
I’ll teach you this old song so you can sing along
When I am dead and gone the day won’t be so long.
Is there a count of how many times she's cried? I would presume so, given how the fanbase documents so much. Since you're a veteran DC reader, can you say with certainty that it isn't a stereotype? Of course, taking into account YMMV (Your milage may vary).
Also, what made the file not terrible? In your original post, you put "terrible file," rather than "mediocre file." Something change your mind?
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“Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent. We would not dare to conceive the things which are really mere commonplaces of existence. If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chains of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outre results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable.”
“Education never ends... it is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last.”
― Arthur Conan Doyle, The Complete Adventures of Sherlock Holmes and His Last Bow
"I have decided to stick to love... hate is too great a burden to bear."
— Martin Luther King Jr. (A Testament of Hope: The Essential Writings and Speeches of Martin Luther King, Jr)
Yukiko is immortal! She didn't change at all despite that this chapter's her appearance is from like 12 years ago.
I wouldn't be surprised if it will turn out that Yukiko and Vermouth are siblings even without knowing that. They both:
- stopped aging
- are actresses
- are masters of disguise
- know each other and are friends (and seems Vermouth is hesitant about killing Yukiko)
Spoiler:
In DC, you have to get up into the 50s before your appearance starts to change, it seems.
I would hesitate to draw such comparisons between the two—you'd think Yukiko would have told her son more about Vermouth, if that was the case, unless you suggest the "grew up separately" angle—I'd be very surprised if they turned out to be sisters.
“Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent. We would not dare to conceive the things which are really mere commonplaces of existence. If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chains of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outre results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable.”
“Education never ends... it is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last.”
― Arthur Conan Doyle, The Complete Adventures of Sherlock Holmes and His Last Bow
"I have decided to stick to love... hate is too great a burden to bear."
— Martin Luther King Jr. (A Testament of Hope: The Essential Writings and Speeches of Martin Luther King, Jr)
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:because I was only able to find a few pictures while searching the net,[/spoiler]
Go to the DCTP's main page, and look for DC Spoilers. Then the second chatbox.
My dad’s a soldier blue I’ll be a soldier, too
When I grow older you will see me rescue you
I’ll teach you this old song so you can sing along
When I am dead and gone the day won’t be so long.
Is there a count of how many times she's cried? I would presume so, given how the fanbase documents so much. Since you're a veteran DC reader, can you say with certainty that it isn't a stereotype? Of course, taking into account YMMV (Your milage may vary).
Yukiko is immortal! She didn't change at all despite that this chapter's her appearance is from like 12 years ago.
I wouldn't be surprised if it will turn out that Yukiko and Vermouth are siblings even without knowing that. They both:
- stopped aging
- are actresses
- are masters of disguise
- know each other and are friends (and seems Vermouth is hesitant about killing Yukiko)
Spoiler:
In DC, you have to get up into the 50s before your appearance starts to change, it seems.
I would hesitate to draw such comparisons between the two—you'd think Yukiko would have told her son more about Vermouth, if that was the case, unless you suggest the "grew up separately" angle—I'd be very surprised if they turned out to be sisters.
Spoiler:
But the other characters are appearing too. Yusaku, Eri, Kogorou. They all changed. Or at least they changed slightly. Except Yukiko. She looks they same now as she looked 12 years ago.
My words about them being siblings were a some kind of irony, but the fact is that Gosho could draw her a bit differently to show that the 12 years changed even Yukiko.
Optionally now we know why Yukiko hates being called "obasan". Perhaps I also would hate this word if my appearance would not change even a single bit through that 12 years...
My dad’s a soldier blue I’ll be a soldier, too
When I grow older you will see me rescue you
I’ll teach you this old song so you can sing along
When I am dead and gone the day won’t be so long.
If you take Akai's word as gospel... he'd only met her once before, and from that second meeting, inferred that that was what she did. I know, she responds in such a manner that suggests that she really does, but... ah, I probably should count up the times she does, and see if they are "legitimate" (taking YMMV into account, of course.)
“Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent. We would not dare to conceive the things which are really mere commonplaces of existence. If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chains of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outre results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable.”
“Education never ends... it is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last.”
― Arthur Conan Doyle, The Complete Adventures of Sherlock Holmes and His Last Bow
"I have decided to stick to love... hate is too great a burden to bear."
— Martin Luther King Jr. (A Testament of Hope: The Essential Writings and Speeches of Martin Luther King, Jr)
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:because I was only able to find a few pictures while searching the net,[/spoiler]
Go to the DCTP's main page, and look for DC Spoilers. Then the second chatbox.
Huh? What are you talking about?
“Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent. We would not dare to conceive the things which are really mere commonplaces of existence. If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chains of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outre results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable.”
“Education never ends... it is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last.”
― Arthur Conan Doyle, The Complete Adventures of Sherlock Holmes and His Last Bow
"I have decided to stick to love... hate is too great a burden to bear."
— Martin Luther King Jr. (A Testament of Hope: The Essential Writings and Speeches of Martin Luther King, Jr)
Ran: It's beautiful!
Sera: The sakura flowers have bloomed!
Sera: The road Conan-kun told us about was the right one!
Sonoko: Well done, kid!
Conan: Yestereday after school, I want here with Genta and the others. I thought that these sakura were beautiful.
Ran: Hm....
Ran: Everytime I see sakura flowers, I remember...
Ran: ... my first meeting with Shinichi.
Ran: He probably doesn't know it,
Ran : but à that time...
If you take Akai's word as gospel... he'd only met her once before, and from that second meeting, inferred that that was what she did. I know, she responds in such a manner that suggests that she really does, but... ah, I probably should count up the times she does, and see if they are "legitimate" (taking YMMV into account, of course.)
I don't. It's her answer which is important here, of course.
"I wonder if there really is a God...
If such an entity really existed, wouldn't all honest, hard-working people be happy?"
If you take Akai's word as gospel... he'd only met her once before, and from that second meeting, inferred that that was what she did. I know, she responds in such a manner that suggests that she really does, but... ah, I probably should count up the times she does, and see if they are "legitimate" (taking YMMV into account, of course.)
Hehe, but You know... Akai met Ran two times. In two different continents. And Ran two times was crying. Something after all must be wrong with Ran .
But thanks Wakarimashita for the link. I completely forgot that Akai smokes. As Subaru we didn't see him smoking. I wonder if he quit.
My dad’s a soldier blue I’ll be a soldier, too
When I grow older you will see me rescue you
I’ll teach you this old song so you can sing along
When I am dead and gone the day won’t be so long.