Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 894-898: Scarlet Series!

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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 894-???: Scarlet Series!

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Everybody needs a Sherry,there's nothing wrong with thatXDXD
I can't wait for the whole file,there are so many questions in my head.
But sadly apparently no mention of Elena/Amuro past together.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 894-898: Scarlet Series!

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Guys, please don't forget to use spoiler boxes when talking about 898 until the file is released. ^_^

Partial translation of file 898 (pp. 1-2, 11-12, 15-16)
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p.1

File 898: Scarlet Epilogue

In truth there’s a lot going on in the shadows!!
Enter the ex-actress who prides herself in her disguise skills!!
Yukiko-obasa…
Oneesan!!!

p.2

[Side note:] Morning dawns on the scarlet night, a calm mood drifts into the Kudou household ... and Yukiko praises the disguise of .... ?

Yukiko: Gosh, it’s perfect!

Yukiko: So you managed to make the disguise after all!

Okiya: I’m much obliged …

Yukiko: Like this you should be fine even without me dropping by every week to check the disguise!

Okiya: I’m sorry to have imposed on you like this …

Yukiko: Though I must admit that it’s unfortunate that I won’t have an excuse for coming by anymore …

Conan (thoughts): Oi …

Jodie: He’s like a completely different person …

Camel: Are you really Akai-san?

Okiya: The voice is still the same, no?

[…]

p.11

Vermouth: If you keep talking I’ll spill your brains all over the windshield!

Amuro: I would advise against that ...
You’d have a hard time cleaning up the mess ...

Vermouth: I’ll be fine ... it’s not like this is my car ...

Amuro: I wasn’t talking about my brain ... I told you before, didn’t I?

Amuro: I arranged for your secret to leak to the rest of the organization ...

Amuro: In case I don’t check in ...

Vermouth: Yeah ... you mentioned that ...

Amuro: Do not worry ...

Amuro: Your secret is kept quite safe ... I won’t make any blunders ...

Vermouth: No blunders, you say ... I heard via that wiretap you had on you ...
You picked quite the fight with those FBI agents and they seemed very suspicious of you.

Amuro: No matter how suspicious they are of me, without proof they can’t do anything ... It all went just as I expected ...

Amuro (thoughts): At that time ...

Amuro (thoughts): The only unexpected thing was ...

p.12

Conan (flashback): You’re an enemy, right?

Conan (flashback): Of the bad guys …

Vermouth: Speaking of which, from time to time there was noise in the wiretap and it was difficult to hear what was said …

Amuro: Yeah, looks like it was acting up a bit …

Vermouth: Well, from now on you should probably stop doing as you please …

Vermouth: Gin says the org is infested by rats and wants to do something about it …

Vermouth: That Hondou guy, Akai and that other guy already makes 3 …

Vermouth: You know, that member of the secret police who slipped in and was killed before we could even get his name …

Amuro: ………………

Vermouth: If I recall correctly, the code name was …

Amuro: Scotch …

Amuro: Wasn’t it?

[…]

p.15

(Camel?): Fake?

Okiya: Once you’ve seen through them, that’s pretty much what tricks are …

Camel: Th-That might be so, but …

Jodie: … And?

Jodie: What did you call us here for, having us make quite sure we weren’t being tailed?

Jodie: It probably wasn’t just so you could show off your improved disguise abilities, was it?

Okiya: This morning I got a text message ...

Okiya: From Kir, or rather, from Mizunashi Rena ...

Jodie: Eeeh?!

Camel: So they don’t know that you’re alive, right, Akai-san?

Okiya: Probably not ...
Well, I say I got a message, but it was really just 3 letters ...

Jodie: 3 letters?

Camel: Some sort of abbreviation?

Okiya: No, it’s the name of an alcohol you should know well ...

p.16

Okiya: RUM …

Okiya: One of their code names …

Okiya: I heard that name mentioned 2 or 3 times during my time in the organization ...
It looks like they’re really close to boss ...

Camel: R-real close?!

Jodie: But I didn’t receive any information like that ...

Okiya: The fact that the message consisted only of that one word ...

Okiya: Probably means that it was sent in a hurry and there was no time to inform you ...

Okiya: In any case, please inform James that an important player has started moving ...

Okiya: More important than Gin!!

[Side note:] A black ripple stains the scarlet ... Next issue, new series!!

Continued in SS #28
That's all for now, since I don't have the whole file yet. ;)

Edit: Replaced the pronouns for Scotch, since his/her gender is not confirmed yet. :-X
Just ignore me, I was obviously way too tired when I wrote that ...
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shinouray91 wrote:
Jd- wrote:To keep things reasonable and organized, here's what's known so far:
Spoiler: File 898 Preliminary Spoilers (Unconfirmed But Reasonable)
From Conan#1 via Baidu:

Conan#1: File 898 spoilers: Scarlet Epilogue, introducing a new member of BO who seems surpass Gin, completed the end of Subaru Okiya=Shuuichi Akai speculation

Conan#1: Next file is new series, seems it is still plot-related series again

Conan#1: It said a new member codename is Rum, it's rank could be above Gin

Conan#1: More spoiler: Vermouth points a gunhole to Bourbon, why?

Conan#1: Rum is the BO boss' right hand man
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What are wierd name for RUM
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RUM is a common drink you know
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The new recruit surpasses Gin? Hype!
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Shiromi wrote:I'm MUCH more interested in what's going on between Vermouth and Bourbon in his car on page 11. I'm not that great of a Japanese to English translator, but this is what I got from the beginning of the exchange:

Vermouth (with gun pointed at Bourbon): If you keep talking, your brains are going to cover the windshield, courtesy of my gun.

Bourbon: You shouldn't... it'd make a horrid mess.

Vermouth: Not my problem, since it's not my car.

Bourbon: Didn't I tell you that this isn't about my brains? In a situation where my movements have been limited, I may be forced to let slip your secret to the organization, and all your little plans would go up in smoke.

Vermouth (withdraws gun): Ah... I see...

Bourbon: Don't worry. Your secret's safe with me. I was very careful.

Vermouth: You're so careful... but you were caught (?) on a wiretap. Wasn't it you who challenged the suspected FBI agent?

Bourbon: Even though no one else was suspicious, even though I was limited by a lack of evidence, even though no one would help me, my hypothesis was right!

Bourbon (thinks to himself): At that time, only ... it was beyond my wildest dreams...

Page 12
Bourbon (remembers Conan asking him if he's a goodguy)
I'm gonna go ahead and say... If Amuro was wearing a wire while his "unmasking" of Akai=Okiya, then the BO (or at least Vermouth) knows Akai is alive. Therefore... (since Jd- is probably busy, I'll say it)

KIIIIIIIRRRR??????
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I wonder how Rum will be introduced in person. Will he interact with other characters than BO's members, not like Rum, but as an ordinary citizen or maybe he will only interact as Rum with BO's members and other characters such as FBI. I noticed that almost every current BO's member, who was presented as an ordinary citizen was on a good side, Kir and Bourbon. Vermouth is the exception, but she's not fully on BO's side.

I also wonder what is the Vermouth's secret that Amuro mentioned. Is it about Conan or something else?
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Will Jodie and Camel show Akai the photo of Sera and ask if he know this girl?
http://www.dctp.ws/V74-Reader/V74-7Read/A14.html

Don't tell me the way to introduce Rum is the repeat of Bourbon's introduction, next series there is 1 of the 3 suspects in a new case is suspect of Rum, then later there have 1 or 2 more suspect of Rum appeared in the next few series.
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Any Problem with the spoiler C-box? it's not working on my computer...
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it is normal.

The file (Thank to Conan#1)
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3075933942
Fujiwara did keep everyone updated
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User 4869 wrote:it is normal.
I would just follow the forum :D
Also thanks User 4869 and Conan#1! ^-^
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User 4869 wrote:it is normal.

The file (Thank to Conan#1)
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3075933942
Fujiwara did keep everyone updated
i just download the RAR..
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They may and Akai probably tell them that she's his sister (I don't see a reason for him not to tell them), but he would ask them not to tell Sera that he's still alive for her protection.

I also wouldn't like the repeat of Bourbon arc. For me, it should be like this, we got files, where Conan, BO and others mentions him several times and finally after 50 files or so we see Rum in person (hope it would be less) and before that Conan and others can speculate how Rum looks like and what it is his goal and etc.
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Guys I'm having a thought about the CIA, would they get even more involved with Kir's life being endangered?

Also some wandering thoughts about the unresolved plots:
1- Bourbon's true allegiance? His connection to the MI6 or PSA?
2- Itakura's requested development of a program by the BO?
3- Vermouth's deaging issues?
4- Scotch, a spy that was sent in by PSA apparently to the BO and was caught & killed?
5- The "Silver Bullet" drug that was made my Elena & her husband and Shiho developed as stated by Pisco to Aptx?
6- Rum?
7- Sera & Akai's connection to the apparent deaged child that only appeared so far in only one file? Could be she their mother?
8- Is it possible that the deaged kid is Yukiko's sister, which makes Akai & Conan cousins?
9- The boss'es intention of creating the Organization?

So many questions that needs a certain answer.. do you think these mysteries will be revealed by file 900 or the upcoming large arc?
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Fujiwara is not around for the moment. i will drop a spoiler bomb here, thank to Black demon's translation
Spoiler:
Amuro's talking about Vermouth's 'secret': "After all I'm one of the few people who know your secret. If other members find out, who knows how surprised they will be. Who could have thought that you are the Boss's..."
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Spoiler:
So Conan VS Rum in Chapter 1000! Or... 1100?
And Date was Scotch? Ok...
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I'm guessing that Vermouth may be the Boss' relative. I would find interesting if she would be Boss' mother or daughter or his sister. It could be a reason why Vermouth won't leave the organization, even though she wants its defeat. Conan mentioned (Vol46 Ch002) that Vermouth's expression, when she was texting the boss, felt lonely and dear at the same time, which may indicate that she has deep affection to Boss, but at the same time she misses something regarding Boss, for example how he used to be, before the organization. Of course Vermouth may be Boss' wife or not be relative at all.
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