Sani wrote:I'm still having my problems with the timings.
I thought the Macademy Awards are held in the US in the evening, which would be early morning in Japan. So how comes that the Mouri's TV states 'live' if it's actually recorded as well? (Seeing as how it's aired near dinner time in Japan.) I know someone already tried to explain that, but I seriously didn't understand. ~.~"
Also, if the Awards were held and broadcasted the same day that Amuro got the information about Kusuda and started investigating Akai anew, then the news of Yuusaku having won the Oscar would have been all over the media the next day, when he's confronting Okiya. That's frontpage material after all. Even though he was too sure of himself about Okiya, he's still very smart and excells at gathering intelligence. Investigating Okiya staying at the Kudou residence would have him stuble across this news for sure. The reporters in front of the residence would have been a huge give-away as well.
Amuro voiced his dislike of the TV at the beginning of the conversation, but Okiya said that he's interested in what's going on there. If Amuro thus knew about the results he coud have just told Okiya - or asked him how it came that Okiya didn't know the outcome yet.
He wouldn't let himself be fooled into deducing that Okiya can't possibly be Yuusaku, either, just because of the recording of an event that took place more than one day ago.
So... I fail to see what's the purpose of Conan choosing to show the Macademy Awards.
Very good post and summary of the potential issues with that angle. This eliminates Conan just rebroadcasting it into the home, as there is no way that Gosho could ever convince us that Amuro wouldn't have known about it or heard about it. Even if he tried to say they followed Amuro to make sure he didn't watch the news, in this digital age, that's just not possible and it's not happening. The trick, to me, has to be tape delay or simple theater; anything else is just overly complicated and purely for the benefit for tricking the reader rather than adding to the story.
Mjöd wrote:I think you don't have to worry too much about Kir,
Jd.
(However, I see here a mistake. The BO guy (I cannot remember his name) killed himself by shooting into his temple. However, Kir shot Akai from the front, hence the hole should be in the forehead. I think if the BO would have wanted to be super sure, this could have been the first thing to check. I find this a little... sloppily.)
My concern is that the point for all of this was to get Kir back into the Organization. To do this, Kir had to fake-kill Akai, and then Akai went incognito so that they could drive in an "unmovable wedge of steel" as James said (paraphrasing). The fact that Akai is now reappearing as himself is extremely risky, and there's no way to fully account for all of the variables no matter how Conan may try to convince us otherwise. It just doesn't feel like this particular part of the setup to this arc is being respected right now; my hope is just that Conan and Akai have a very concrete, fool-proof plan regarding Kir and her pending demise if anything goes wrong in the slightest.
All in all, there is
no way to know what Gin will do with this kind of information. He's cut off loose ends before for a lot less than this, and he was already prepared to kill Kir the last time we saw her. No matter how sure Conan and Akai are of Amuro and his intentions, having Akai be seen as himself by
anyone is just not something they should be doing if they want Kir to survive. I'm definitely not convinced in any way that Gosho will kill her off like that anytime soon; it's just a problem with this setup that hasn't really been addressed yet but hopefully will be soon.
Conan324 wrote:What if amuro is actually BO but is also working in any agency but his true allegiance is to the BO?
I floated this some pages ago as a possible storyline, and also noted that if Amuro was also raised in the Organization, it bears a resemblance to a certain Academy Award winning film (coincidence?) that was a remake of another great movie.
Stopwatch wrote:From his perspective all of this has now been individually disproven, and even if he figures out the current trick Conan is using the explanation for it is so implausible and Bourbon has shown himself as so obsessed with Akai that it's unlikely he would even be believed.
My only issue with this is that it removes any sort of sense of danger for Kir entirely. This means that Akai can return and dally about without worry, because so long as he isn't seen by a confirmed Black Organization member, everything will be fine. They all know that Gin is ruthless, with Conan himself witnessing him take out three different members just in his presence (not to mention hounding Sherry all this time). I can't imagine that Conan's plan is just to let Amuro be discredited for being crazy--if he ever reported to Gin that Akai was alive, I can't imagine Gin being like, "We need proof before acting further" given that in the Red Shirts case, he was ready to waste her without a second thought. Gin is the type who would rather tie up a loose end now rather than wait to see how it unfolds if he feels like there's any real chance it's going to come back to haunt them later--especially with regard to members who are under him, unlike Vermouth who has as much if not more clout than him due to her relationship with the Boss.
