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Re: Mafia Game Round 7 (Day 1)

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xpon wrote: i can only prove my self after day 1.. but i screw when choosing my partner in night 1... they all abandon me......

so .. i dont give a dam care to defend all the way like i did in round 5 and still get killed.


so at least now.. i just want all townie for not voting and let all bo vote for me...

and when you know i am sherry ( by looking at my dead body...) please check again all people that vote for me..


and Schillok.. you are a good CHILD KILLER, you know that??


Beastly is 100% BO.. ha ha ha


hear me smart guy...

i pm you with all info i got.. you are my last hope.. and you are one of the player that accuse me??? smart... really smart... i almost amaze that last time you gave BO a hard time.... i really did.. because the way you are now.. i almost believe you dont use your brain..

no heart feeling..

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You know, lashing out in a situation like this and accusing everyone who (rightfully) suspects you to be BO does not help you at all. So either you calm down and try to work with others to get out of the mess you are in and clear you name. Or you keep rambling and leave us no other option to find out who you really are.

Your strategy is confusing, so don't blame us if it backfired on you. You are not exactly dead yet.
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i chose my last strategies

i dont care if i died by lynching or aptx or any kind.


just make anybody who vote for me as a suspect.. so if you are townie.. just abstain..

i can only online another 30 minutes.. so its up to you.

i follow holmes.. this day.. and if i live i can prove my self... ( if holmes is not BO)

and i still dont get your point of view... why rushing to kill some one? why dont wait until have a prove to lynch some one. (ex: have a scent. or proved killed or doing night activity)

why all townie like to blind lynching???? why dont hold a little bit


i dont get why we must kill someone at randomly...
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xpon wrote: i chose my last strategies

i dont care if i died by lynching or aptx or any kind.


just make anybody who vote for me as a suspect.. so if you are townie.. just abstain..

i can only online another 30 minutes.. so its up to you.

i follow holmes.. this day.. and if i live i can prove my self... ( if holmes is not BO)

and i still dont get your point of view... why rushing to kill some one? why dont wait until have a prove to lynch some one. (ex: have a scent. or proved killed or doing night activity)

why all townie like to blind lynching???? why dont hold a little bit
Seriously, everyone who voted you is a BO  ;)
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@beastly.. that what i wish..

so .. good luck....

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xpon wrote: why all townie like to blind lynching???? why dont hold a little bit


i dont get why we must kill someone at randomly...
as I said before, even if having a no-lynch on day 1 is beneficial (though I'm not entirely sure it is but that's besides the point), we can't easily arrange for a tie-lynch and expect the vote to go perfectly. So, the safest thing is to get someone who is at the very least acting suspicious, which you're the prime suspect of. Otherwise, if we try for a tie lynching, a BO (or a townie who just has a strong conviction) can turn against the established plan and get someone who wasn't as suspicious killed, which is worse.
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no.. just dont vote at all...
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Re: Mafia Game Round 7 (Day 1)

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Guess, xpon is the target, I´ll go lynch you this round and the next I´ll lynch Kleene.
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funny holmes..

i follow you.. so if you want a sure way to prove you are townie... just let me live
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Re: Mafia Game Round 7 (Day 1)

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xpon wrote: why all townie like to blind lynching???? why dont hold a little bit


i dont get why we must kill someone at randomly...
as I said before, even if having a no-lynch on day 1 is beneficial (though I'm not entirely sure it is but that's besides the point), we can't easily arrange for a tie-lynch and expect the vote to go perfectly. So, the safest thing is to get someone who is at the very least acting suspicious, which you're the prime suspect of. Otherwise, if we try for a tie lynching, a BO (or a townie who just has a strong conviction) can turn against the established plan and get someone who wasn't as suspicious killed, which is worse.
Exactly.
If there were (solid) pointers towards another player being BO it would be different. Then we could choose between either of you and that other player, maybe achieving a draw by chance or killing that other player (who hopefully would be from the BO). That would give us another day and night to prove who you are. But... it does not look like that will happen.

Not sure if (more or less random) lynching during day 1 is good or bad either. Fact is the town will lose if it never lynches.


So... does anyone have someone else in mind? I mean it would be easy to prove if xpon was lying since Holmes will get noticed if he was followed today or not during night 2. (Not that I can trust Holmes that he isn't BO and would lie to us.)

The longer I think about it... maybe we should vote for someone else?

There are 3 options:

1) xpon IS Sherry
Then a) Holmes is townie as well and they will be able to prove each others innocence. Which would be great.
Or b) Holmes is BO and xpon will tell us when he gets the results. Which is good as well.

2) xpon is not Sherry but not BO either
Sorry xpon, dead end. But maybe you made the BO nervous and they wasted an APTX on you...

3) xpon is BO
a) Holmes is a townie and will tell us he was not investigated. Then xpon will be dead the following day.
b) Holmes is BO as well. Well, then the result would be similar to 1b), but once one of them is proven to be BO we will know the other one is BO as well. So we can catch 2 BO at once.


I know, xpon being Vermouth would make things even more complicated but that could be easily checked with "xpon disguising as Sherry" during the night.

... yeah, I think that is pretty much it.
So, maybe we should find another suspect and leave the xpon-issue for later?
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vermouth cant be sherry.. last round prove it

and thanks for defending me

the wost possibilities is Holmes anokata and in night 2 they erased me.. ha ha ha

and conia please make sure.. if i died at day 1 because APTX.. will i got my result when following holmes ? and can i tell it to the forum.....because i guess ai will have a strange behavior if she got the result or not if a townie.. before she died because the aptx
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xpon wrote: vermouth cant be sherry.. last round prove it

and thanks for defending me

the wost possibilities is Holmes anokata and in night 2 they erased me.. ha ha ha
I know, Anokata is making things complicated again... But this is just one role out of... a lot, and we don't even know if he is in the game (yet).

But I am saying it again, if we go with that strategy we need another suspicious player. Holmes, is there a specific reason why you mentioned Kleene?
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Beastly wrote:
xpon wrote: i can only prove my self after day 1.. but i screw when choosing my partner in night 1... they all abandon me......

so .. i dont give a dam care to defend all the way like i did in round 5 and still get killed.


so at least now.. i just want all townie for not voting and let all bo vote for me...

and when you know i am sherry ( by looking at my dead body...) please check again all people that vote for me..


and Schillok.. you are a good CHILD KILLER, you know that??


Beastly is 100% BO.. ha ha ha
Yea you also said that conia is 100 percent BO last time  :D
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xpon wrote: vermouth cant be sherry.. last round prove it

and thanks for defending me

the wost possibilities is Holmes anokata and in night 2 they erased me.. ha ha ha

and conia please make sure.. if i died at day 1 because APTX.. will i got my result when following holmes ? and can i tell it to the forum.....because i guess ai will have a strange behavior if she got the result or not if a townie.. before she died because the aptx
Dunno about that "vermout can/can't disguise as Sherry" since a lot of things were discussed etc. And Makoto and Hakuba are prep. phase roles now and weren't last round. So maybe that sherry disguise was changed too? Need conia to confirm that.

If you get poisoned by APTX today and you die, then you're dead on night 2. So you can't tell your informations (if you got your results or any other informations) to anyone anymore, whether it's in the thread or with PM.
xpon wrote: no.. just dont vote at all...
It's not possible to not vote at all. Since at least 1 BO will vote and then you or someone else will die anyway, and that death will be 100% a townie.
A good option is to try to make a tie. But that was good last round, because there weren't any clues at all. And no one was really suspicious. And in this round, Xpon is very suspicious for a lot of people. So I dunno either whether a tie would be good for us town or not D:
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xpon wrote: vermouth cant be sherry.. last round prove it

and thanks for defending me

the wost possibilities is Holmes anokata and in night 2 they erased me.. ha ha ha
I know, Anokata is making things complicated again... But this is just one role out of... a lot, and we don't even know if he is in the game (yet).

But I am saying it again, if we go with that strategy we need another suspicious player. Holmes, is there a specific reason why you mentioned Kleene?
I dunno why I'm suspicious? D: Because of that poll? If I'm suspicious because of that... then xpon is definitely more suspicious than me >.>" But I guess I can't blame you if you vote for me because of that :/
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xpon wrote: why all townie like to blind lynching???? why dont hold a little bit


i dont get why we must kill someone at randomly...
as I said before, even if having a no-lynch on day 1 is beneficial (though I'm not entirely sure it is but that's besides the point), we can't easily arrange for a tie-lynch and expect the vote to go perfectly. So, the safest thing is to get someone who is at the very least acting suspicious, which you're the prime suspect of. Otherwise, if we try for a tie lynching, a BO (or a townie who just has a strong conviction) can turn against the established plan and get someone who wasn't as suspicious killed, which is worse.
Exactly.
If there were (solid) pointers towards another player being BO it would be different. Then we could choose between either of you and that other player, maybe achieving a draw by chance or killing that other player (who hopefully would be from the BO). That would give us another day and night to prove who you are. But... it does not look like that will happen.

Not sure if (more or less random) lynching during day 1 is good or bad either. Fact is the town will lose if it never lynches.


So... does anyone have someone else in mind? I mean it would be easy to prove if xpon was lying since Holmes will get noticed if he was followed today or not during night 2. (Not that I can trust Holmes that he isn't BO and would lie to us.)

The longer I think about it... maybe we should vote for someone else?

There are 3 options:

1) xpon IS Sherry
Then a) Holmes is townie as well and they will be able to prove each others innocence. Which would be great.
Or b) Holmes is BO and xpon will tell us when he gets the results. Which is good as well.

2) xpon is not Sherry but not BO either
Sorry xpon, dead end. But maybe you made the BO nervous and they wasted an APTX on you...

3) xpon is BO
a) Holmes is a townie and will tell us he was not investigated. Then xpon will be dead the following day.
b) Holmes is BO as well. Well, then the result would be similar to 1b), but once one of them is proven to be BO we will know the other one is BO as well. So we can catch 2 BO at once.


I know, xpon being Vermouth would make things even more complicated but that could be easily checked with "xpon disguising as Sherry" during the night.

... yeah, I think that is pretty much it.
So, maybe we should find another suspect and leave the xpon-issue for later?
You forgot one option. xpon and Holmes are BO! In that case, xpon pretends to follow Holmes, tells that he has no scent. And Holmes tells us that he got followed. So we would believe both. And we would believe that xpon is Sherry and he could mark his BO buddies as "without scent".
We would notice that this is a play from the BO, when they don't kill Sherry. But that can be easily sloved by them if they kill off xpon and hide his body! D:
That's the same case, when xpon is sherry and Holmes is a townie. If they kill one of them and hide the body, the other one will get suspicious.

My point is, whatever happens, we won't be sure who to believe as long as not one of them dies and proves the ability etc.. And the BO probably won't kill the ones that will confuse the town. And if they kill them, then just to hide the body and/or confuse the town even more D:
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Exactly.
If there were (solid) pointers towards another player being BO it would be different. Then we could choose between either of you and that other player, maybe achieving a draw by chance or killing that other player (who hopefully would be from the BO). That would give us another day and night to prove who you are. But... it does not look like that will happen.

Not sure if (more or less random) lynching during day 1 is good or bad either. Fact is the town will lose if it never lynches.


So... does anyone have someone else in mind? I mean it would be easy to prove if xpon was lying since Holmes will get noticed if he was followed today or not during night 2. (Not that I can trust Holmes that he isn't BO and would lie to us.)

The longer I think about it... maybe we should vote for someone else?

There are 3 options:

1) xpon IS Sherry
Then a) Holmes is townie as well and they will be able to prove each others innocence. Which would be great.
Or b) Holmes is BO and xpon will tell us when he gets the results. Which is good as well.

2) xpon is not Sherry but not BO either
Sorry xpon, dead end. But maybe you made the BO nervous and they wasted an APTX on you...

3) xpon is BO
a) Holmes is a townie and will tell us he was not investigated. Then xpon will be dead the following day.
b) Holmes is BO as well. Well, then the result would be similar to 1b), but once one of them is proven to be BO we will know the other one is BO as well. So we can catch 2 BO at once.


I know, xpon being Vermouth would make things even more complicated but that could be easily checked with "xpon disguising as Sherry" during the night.

... yeah, I think that is pretty much it.
So, maybe we should find another suspect and leave the xpon-issue for later?
You forgot one option. xpon and Holmes are BO! In that case, xpon pretends to follow Holmes, tells that he has no scent. And Holmes tells us that he got followed. So we would believe both. And we would believe that xpon is Sherry and he could mark his BO buddies as "without scent".
We would notice that this is a play from the BO, when they don't kill Sherry. But that can be easily sloved by them if they kill off xpon and hide his body! D:
That's the same case, when xpon is sherry and Holmes is a townie. If they kill one of them and hide the body, the other one will get suspicious.

My point is, whatever happens, we won't be sure who to believe as long as not one of them dies and proves the ability etc.. And the BO probably won't kill the ones that will confuse the town. And if they kill them, then just to hide the body and/or confuse the town even more D:
That is option 3b). Anyway, with my strategy we would be able to show that they are either in the same team (BO or town) if they confirm each other as "having no scent" and "being followed" or that at least one of them is BO (when getting different results). Either way sounds beneficial to us.

Remember that not all mafia roles can be in this game. There is no guarantee Pisco is in the game to hide the body. If the BO does not have him (or we lynch him today) that scenario won't work.

I think letting "xpon Sherry" follow Holmes would help the town. All outcomes of that plan seem positive for us. (Except maybe a few special cases...)


The only problem is finding another suspicious player. 
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Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Exactly.
If there were (solid) pointers towards another player being BO it would be different. Then we could choose between either of you and that other player, maybe achieving a draw by chance or killing that other player (who hopefully would be from the BO). That would give us another day and night to prove who you are. But... it does not look like that will happen.

Not sure if (more or less random) lynching during day 1 is good or bad either. Fact is the town will lose if it never lynches.


So... does anyone have someone else in mind? I mean it would be easy to prove if xpon was lying since Holmes will get noticed if he was followed today or not during night 2. (Not that I can trust Holmes that he isn't BO and would lie to us.)

The longer I think about it... maybe we should vote for someone else?

There are 3 options:

1) xpon IS Sherry
Then a) Holmes is townie as well and they will be able to prove each others innocence. Which would be great.
Or b) Holmes is BO and xpon will tell us when he gets the results. Which is good as well.

2) xpon is not Sherry but not BO either
Sorry xpon, dead end. But maybe you made the BO nervous and they wasted an APTX on you...

3) xpon is BO
a) Holmes is a townie and will tell us he was not investigated. Then xpon will be dead the following day.
b) Holmes is BO as well. Well, then the result would be similar to 1b), but once one of them is proven to be BO we will know the other one is BO as well. So we can catch 2 BO at once.


I know, xpon being Vermouth would make things even more complicated but that could be easily checked with "xpon disguising as Sherry" during the night.

... yeah, I think that is pretty much it.
So, maybe we should find another suspect and leave the xpon-issue for later?
You forgot one option. xpon and Holmes are BO! In that case, xpon pretends to follow Holmes, tells that he has no scent. And Holmes tells us that he got followed. So we would believe both. And we would believe that xpon is Sherry and he could mark his BO buddies as "without scent".
We would notice that this is a play from the BO, when they don't kill Sherry. But that can be easily sloved by them if they kill off xpon and hide his body! D:
That's the same case, when xpon is sherry and Holmes is a townie. If they kill one of them and hide the body, the other one will get suspicious.

My point is, whatever happens, we won't be sure who to believe as long as not one of them dies and proves the ability etc.. And the BO probably won't kill the ones that will confuse the town. And if they kill them, then just to hide the body and/or confuse the town even more D:
That is option 3b). Anyway, with my strategy we would be able to show that they are either in the same team (BO or town) if they confirm each other as "having no scent" and "being followed" or that at least one of them is BO (when getting different results). Either way sounds beneficial to us.

Remember that not all mafia roles can be in this game. There is no guarantee Pisco is in the game to hide the body. If the BO does not have him (or we lynch him today) that scenario won't work.

I think letting "xpon Sherry" follow Holmes would help the town. All outcomes of that plan seem positive for us. (Except maybe a few special cases...)


The only problem is finding another suspicious player. 
Oh right, 3b) didn't saw that D:
But who else do you want to vote for? (besides me? xD)
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