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Ancient Chinese weapon: need help

Posted: March 9th, 2013, 4:05 am
by MaitreDétective
http://24.img.v4.skyrock.net/6420/86256 ... zRLe1X.jpg

the chúi ( 錘 in traditional chinese, 锤 i simplified chinese) is an ancient melee weapon

Can anyone tell me more info about it? like the date it was used, how much it weighed or what it is made of?

The wikipedia page isn't very complete

Re: Chinese weapon: need help

Posted: March 9th, 2013, 6:16 am
by Conia
I'll be disappointed if Prof doesn't post in here.

Re: Chinese weapon: need help

Posted: March 9th, 2013, 7:09 am
by Memesu
Conia wrote: I'll be disappointed if Prof doesn't post in here.
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Re: Chinese weapon: need help

Posted: March 9th, 2013, 7:22 am
by Kleene Onigiri
Meme wrote:
Conia wrote: I'll be disappointed if Prof doesn't post in here.
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Re: Ancient Chinese weapon: need help

Posted: March 9th, 2013, 3:17 pm
by kkslider5552000
Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Meme wrote:
Conia wrote: I'll be disappointed if Prof doesn't post in here.
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...who am i pointing to 0__0

Re: Ancient Chinese weapon: need help

Posted: March 9th, 2013, 4:30 pm
by ProfParanoia
Currently doing my best to find stuff about this beyond basics: Chui comes from a name that's common among Tang dynasty officials, the mac is about 1.5 feet with a 1.3 inch bronze head, and Shampoo from Ranma 1/2 had a very beach ball-ish pair. So while you wait, please enjoy this video of a monkey man fighting a drunkard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHsxFkgqYJs

EDIT:
Okay, the first image of the thing in the hands of a soldier comes from the stone guardian which is supposed to be standard Ming Dynasty get-up.
Spoiler:
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This puts it at around 1400-1600 because the picture is from Beijing (but it's a mace, hard to call when it was first used). Given that he's carrying it with a jian implies it served a similar function to the Bardoukian mace [which is seen here in the middle]. And it's hard to get a lock of mace weight since any mace has several different lengths and heads but it's probably as heavy as the bardoukion (that is to say, heavy). They also had a version that tied two of them together for w/e reason.

So, hopefully some of this is useful. What do you need it for?

Re: Ancient Chinese weapon: need help

Posted: March 9th, 2013, 7:00 pm
by MaitreDétective
Thank you very much :D

it's for an exposé on old chinese weapons and you just saved my life!

Re: Ancient Chinese weapon: need help

Posted: March 13th, 2013, 6:04 am
by svon1
that´s easy its just a standard Mace
normally used with one hand (and a shield in the other)
good against heavy armor and helmets

its a cheap and easy weapon so its perfect for fighters with a low budget

like this one http://www.battlemerchant.com/product_i ... ts_id=1286

or that one http://images.wikia.com/dnd4/images/9/9 ... G_3823.jpg

Re: Ancient Chinese weapon: need help

Posted: March 13th, 2013, 10:31 am
by Akonyl
svon1 wrote: that´s easy its just a standard Mace
normally used with one hand (and a shield in the other)
good against heavy armor and helmets

its a cheap and easy weapon so its perfect for fighters with a low budget

like this one http://www.battlemerchant.com/product_i ... ts_id=1286

or that one http://images.wikia.com/dnd4/images/9/9 ... G_3823.jpg
I'm preeeeeetty sure everyone here knows it's a mace. But just saying "it's a mace" is like seeing someone post a picture of a gladius, going "oh that's a sword, you can see more here" and linking to a picture of a katana.

Re: Ancient Chinese weapon: need help

Posted: March 13th, 2013, 11:36 am
by svon1
swords spears and axes  have many different designs and ways to use them but a mace
just have one attack

the directly punch

the may look a little different but the way to  use them is the same 

like i told ya
the mace in one hand and if ya a smart then ya have shield in the other
so you can strike with the mace block with the shield and ya are protected against arrows

its different with swords for example
the katana is a 1-inched longsword
so its a defense cutting weapon

while the gladius is a double-inched short sword
its an aggressive stabbing weapon

the cavalry saber on the other hand is a scimitar
made for fighting from horseback

and their are also special swords like the Sica
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Thraex_01.jpg

or the falcata
http://www.melbar.de/Blankwaffen/Schwer ... W4111H.jpg

Re: Ancient Chinese weapon: need help

Posted: March 16th, 2013, 7:44 am
by MaitreDétective
svon1 wrote: that´s easy its just a standard Mace
normally used with one hand (and a shield in the other)
good against heavy armor and helmets

its a cheap and easy weapon so its perfect for fighters with a low budget

like this one http://www.battlemerchant.com/product_i ... ts_id=1286

or that one http://images.wikia.com/dnd4/images/9/9 ... G_3823.jpg
thanks but...I don't really want to buy one