Creative people more likely to cheat, finds study

[sstimson]

You forgot, depend your your values of course, the thing called your Conscience. Remember Poe's "Tell-Tale Heart" where A killed B in a perfect murder, but you do know what happened later right? Same with cheating. While there might be no external punishment, the internal one can be much, much worse. As the saying go you can run from others, but you can never run from yourself.

[KangarooGirl]

Found another test if interested. This one is more of a how do you feel kind

Scored  52 left 48 right on this test

it link is here

XDDDD 56 left 44 right but my verbal was 20% while non verbal was 7%. does that mean I don't process things????
(I'm just joking but it's a funny thought)

Well As I think out side the box a question. There are some that can find short cuts that work for them better then the normal way and I use myself as an example. There are times I have trouble substituting two numbers like 13 from 8, but using the rule of add something (in this case 2) to both changes the problem from 13 - 8 to 15 - 10 = 5. Some might call this cheating. But I think it is only a different way to do the same thing. Is it cheating?

.... Who in their right mind would call that cheating?

I do that all the time! It's simply an acquired trick you do by yourself to work out a problem. There are many different ways to do all kinds of math problems and that's just another way. =w=

I don't think that's cheating at all. It's just another way of working something out. In my mind it's a longer way, though possibly simpler to do. As long as you get to the correct result. I mean when you get problems like 19x20, you can either do it straight up and get 380 or do 20x20 and then take 20 off which also gives you 380 (I tend to use the latter when the numbers are bigger )

[Conia]

when you get problems like 19x20, you can either do it straight up and get 380 or do 20x20 and then take 20 off which also gives you 380 (I tend to use the latter when the numbers are bigger )

[me=Conia]highfives Hayley o/\o[/me]

[dilbertschalter]

this make sense to me intuitively, even when you ignore the "creative people can get away with cheating" part. people who are good at thinking outside the box are somewhat less likely to respect the box.

[mangaluva]

I figure creative people are a) more generally rebellious and b) more capable of actually figuring out how to cheat effectively.

[Jd-]

this make sense to me intuitively, even when you ignore the "creative people can get away with cheating" part. people who are good at thinking outside the box are somewhat less likely to respect the box.

I figure creative people are a) more generally rebellious and b) more capable of actually figuring out how to cheat effectively.

Both excellent posts.

[PhoenixTears]

Found another test if interested. This one is more of a how do you feel kind

Scored  52 left 48 right on this test

it link is here

My results:

Spoiler:

And I'm not the least bit surprised by that.

[Memesu]

I wouldn't doubt it, however I feel like it's less a case of "creative people are swindlers" and more a case of "swindlers are creative". The distinction might not be all that huge, but dishonesty, lies, and the art of deception are all things which require at least some degree of creativity, so a liar who always has his lies found out is much more likely to stop lying than a liar who can come to weave convincing enough lies to successfully deceive.

But basically, the articles make it sound like creativity breeds dishonesty, while I think it's probably more a case of dishonesty breeding creativity.

This.

Found another test if interested. This one is more of a how do you feel kind

Scored  52 left 48 right on this test

it link is here

*Got the same result*

Spoiler:

Left Brain Right Brain
              52%                   48%

You are more left-brained than right-brained. Your left brain controls the right side of your body. In addition to being known as left-brained, you are also known as a critical thinker who uses logic and sense to collect information. You are able to retain this information through the use of numbers, words, and symbols. You usually only see parts of the "whole" picture, but this is what guides you step-by-step in a logical manner to your conclusion. Concise words, numerical and written formulas and technological systems are often forms of expression for you. Some occupations usually held by a left-brained person include a lab scientist, banker, judge, lawyer, mathematician, librarian, and skating judge.

Your complete evaluation follows below:
Your left brain/right brain percentage was calculated by combining the individual scores of each half's sub-categories. They are as follows:

Your Left Brain Percentages
 60% Verbal (Your most dominant characteristic)
 38% Logical
 25% Symbolic
 22% Linear
 22% Sequential
 14% Reality-based (Your least dominant characteristic)

Your Right Brain Percentages
 40% Fantasy-oriented (Your most dominant characteristic)
 37% Concrete
 25% Nonverbal
 24% Holistic
 23% Random
 20% Intuitive (Your least dominant characteristic)

[Jd-]

You forgot, depend your your values of course, the thing called your Conscience. Remember Poe's "Tell-Tale Heart" where A killed B in a perfect murder, but you do know what happened later right? Same with cheating. While there might be no external punishment, the internal one can be much, much worse. As the saying go you can run from others, but you can never run from yourself.

I have to say... I've never felt even remotely guilty about cheating on an assignment or anything like that. I felt more proud than anything for executing it so well and getting away with it without the teacher being any the wiser.

It just doesn't seem like they mentioned that they would be penalized for cheating. You know, like how in school if you cheat you get an automatic fail to discourage you from doing it.

And even if they weren't told they were in an experiment, they were told about the money right?

It's not an entirely invalid point or anything, but let it be known that people willing to cheat on things rarely care whether the consequences are grave or not. It's been shown in similar studies that the punishment very, very rarely plays into your decision-making when it comes to acting on something you are keen to do (the death penalty has been statistically proven not to be a deterrent to murder, after all). Instead of the punishment weighing in on whether someone will do something "wrong" or not, it's instead more likely to encourage them to be more creative as to just how they cheat so as to avoid detection--not whether they cheat or not.

[sonoci]

It just doesn't seem like they mentioned that they would be penalized for cheating. You know, like how in school if you cheat you get an automatic fail to discourage you from doing it.

And even if they weren't told they were in an experiment, they were told about the money right?

It's not an entirely invalid point or anything, but let it be known that people willing to cheat on things rarely care whether the consequences are grave or not. It's been shown in similar studies that the punishment very, very rarely plays into your decision-making when it comes to acting on something you are keen to do (the death penalty has been statistically proven not to be a deterrent to murder, after all). Instead of the punishment weighing in on whether someone will do something "wrong" or not, it's instead more likely to encourage them to be more creative as to just how they cheat so as to avoid detection--not whether they cheat or not.

You're probably right and my personal conscience is just so anti-cheating that I just can't really comprehend the cheating aspect with or without punishment xD

I mean, this is coming from someone who pretty much bawled years ago when teachers THOUGHT she had cheated and she did no such thing. They weren't even that sure, just checking. But yeah, I was so heartbroken they were like "N-No! Uh, yeah, you didn't cheat! W-We were just checking! We're sorry! D: "

And then I had a mood swing. " >:( That's right you meanies. Pft, cheating. I would NEVER  >:( >:( >:("

[Jd-]

You're probably right and my personal conscience is just so anti-cheating that I just can't really comprehend the cheating aspect with or without punishment xD

I mean, this is coming from someone who pretty much bawled years ago when teachers THOUGHT she had cheated and she did no such thing. They weren't even that sure, just checking. But yeah, I was so heartbroken they were like "N-No! Uh, yeah, you didn't cheat! W-We were just checking! We're sorry! D: "

And then I had a mood swing. " >:( That's right you meanies. Pft, cheating. I would NEVER  >:( >:( >:("

Those teachers...

Spoiler:

Should pay!!!!

I know how you feel, because I was falsely accused of cheating on an assignment we did in class once--just a simple half page response to a section we were reading of Julius Caesar during that one class period (meaning it would have been impossible to have cheated unless I had somehow brought along a report from the internet despite not knowing the assignment was coming). I took that battle to the teacher and told her I would gladly go with her to speak with the principal if she did not rescind the zero, annnnd she backed down. I would've gone to the Supreme Court--I was battling with that sort of determination that day.

[Eve]

Not more likely to cheat, just more likely to get away with it.

^
I agree with Commi here Cheater with creative minds are likely to get away, and they can get away once, they can do it twice, and thrice and etc... until caught... then lie... b/c they're creative enough
Point is, People who are creative are "good" cheater, not creative people are likely to cheat

[Kleene Onigiri]

You forgot, depend your your values of course, the thing called your Conscience. Remember Poe's "Tell-Tale Heart" where A killed B in a perfect murder, but you do know what happened later right? Same with cheating. While there might be no external punishment, the internal one can be much, much worse. As the saying go you can run from others, but you can never run from yourself.

It's still different here.
For some people, it's important if you hurt others with your cheating. In school, if you cheat, some people might think it's betraying the other classmates or the teacher or the parents, which they respect.
Others take the test more seriously as to really see how good they are. And if they cheat they would "betray themselves" because they would get a good grade but actually didn't do the work for that.

Then there are of course people, that hate the subject/aren't good in it. Like, imagine a little Jd- boy that hates math and just wants to pass the test, and takes every means he can :x

The test for the study had a different mentality. There were people you didn't know. You were rewarded with money for correct questions. Most people would want to cheat, and if there are a lot of people that do that, the one that would play fair would be declared "stupid" for not taking the opportunity to get the money. (They aren't really stupid, but people could feel like that in such a situation)
The money was also prepared for them to be taken, so it's also not like they are taking something that wasn't meant to be given to them.
It's also not something to prove yourself either, like seeing if you actually worked hard and see the results for it.
So the mentality for that test is different. Tho it will always be hard to make a test for a study to be exactly like the reality.

I have to say... I've never felt even remotely guilty about cheating on an assignment or anything like that. I felt more proud than anything for executing it so well and getting away with it without the teacher being any the wiser.

I would let students, that manage to cheat in a great way pass. And the ones that are too obvious be caught as a teacher.
Because learning how to cheat is important for the real live too And the ones that fail need to do better next time, either studying more or be better at cheating :x XD

[Raiden]

Left vs Right Brain
Here a test to find out which are you test

Cool, I'm left brained apparently :V

Seems I'm right brained :V
Tho I can see both if I concentrate XD

Took the test for fun, it seems like the two halves of my brain have a perfect alliance going on... ;p

The results came out for me to be middle brained. \o/

Spoiler: Test Result of Left vs Right Brain Test

You are a middle brain dominant student!

You are open minded but not gullible about things or people. You may run into trouble making decisions sometimes, while your logical brain plays tug-of-war with your gut instinct. You enjoy the arts, but you could also do well in science and math. You appreciate the beauty of all things in life, and are well-rounded. Middle brain students would do well on The Apprentice, since they can have a strong mix of gut instinct and an appreciation for numbers. You would have a strong career in business, but you may not go that route; you may be more interested in studying the arts and sciences in college. You would be wise to read over the characteristics of left and right brain students and consider whether you fall into the traps of either type. For instance, extreme right brain dominant students can get too bogged down in thought, while extreme left brain students can be rigid in their views.

[Kleene Onigiri]

Test for me:
[spoiler]
Left Brain  48% Right Brain  52%


You are more right-brained than left-brained. The right side of your brain controls the left side of your body. In addition to being known as right-brained, you are also known as a creative thinker who uses feeling and intuition to gather information. You retain this information through the use of images and patterns. You are able to visualize the "whole" picture first, and then work backwards to put the pieces together to create the "whole" picture. Your thought process can appear quite illogical and meandering. The problem-solving techniques that you use involve free association, which is often very innovative and creative. The routes taken to arrive at your conclusions are completely opposite to what a left-brained person would be accustomed. You probably find it easy to express yourself using art, dance, or music. Some occupations usually held by a right-brained person are forest ranger, athlete, beautician, actor/actress, craftsman, and artist.

Your Left Brain Percentages
  42% Logical (Your most dominant characteristic)
  32% Linear
  27% Verbal
  22% Sequential
  14% Reality-based
  9% Symbolic (Your least dominant characteristic)

Your Right Brain Percentages
  73% Concrete (Your most dominant characteristic)
  57% Fantasy-oriented
  18% Holistic
  17% Random
  10% Intuitive
  0% Nonverbal (Your least dominant characteristic)[/spoiler]

Not a big difference tho :V