Being a Grammar Nazi at Possibly the Wrong Time

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Re: Being a Grammar Nazi at Possibly the Wrong Time

Postby IHKF » October 23rd, 2011, 10:20 am

Stopwatch wrote:Am I the only who can see where Moriarty was coming from with this? :-\


Probably, yes.
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Re: Being a Grammar Nazi at Possibly the Wrong Time

Postby Stopwatch » October 23rd, 2011, 10:41 am

IHKF wrote:
Stopwatch wrote:Am I the only who can see where Moriarty was coming from with this? :-\


Probably, yes.

:(, I'll put how I understand it then... so, normally commenting and trying to correct someone's spelling or grammar fails miserably, if they spell stuff wrong in the first place it's either a mistake they keep making (your/you're is a common one) or they simply don't care, more often the latter in my experience so you just have a load of people going on at you about it and nothing is achieved. However, if you put that into this context then it can seem ('cause of the internet being misunderstood so easily) as though they spelt the original word like that (I didn't see the first post so I can't really say) because they couldn't be bothered to check it because that is the usual reason for spelling mistakes for those over a certain age (as opposed to those who simply haven't learnt it properly in school yet). If you consider this is supposed to be because of four deaths then someone not being bothered can come off as very disrespectful.

The other side of the argument is that the group was obviously put there with good intentions, the point was got across and disrupting the mourning because of a trivial spelling mistake is somewhat cruel to all those who are just there to celebrate the lives of those four people. The spelling corrections could have been saved for elsewhere, though as I said before, it usually doesn't have any effect so it would be pretty pointless to try anyway, I gave up long ago :(.
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Re: Being a Grammar Nazi at Possibly the Wrong Time

Postby PhoenixTears » October 23rd, 2011, 10:44 am

Moriarty wrote:I didn't ask for that now did I?
By posting it here, it's like you're asking for someone to validate your actions.

Moriarty wrote:The way it was spelled made me feel like the person who made the page was disrespecting the deceased, so I explained how I, as a reader felt, with the intention of others coming to the conclusion that, people may see it that way. All the comments were fuelled by name calling, raging people.

So I picked on their grammar too.
I don't believe any of the first part of this. I think you cared at all about how they might've been "disrespecting the deceased." Seems like that's just your excuse to cover up you being arrogant. If you cared at all about the fact that these people are mourning, you wouldn't have done it. The one disrespecting the deceased here is you.
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Re: Being a Grammar Nazi at Possibly the Wrong Time

Postby Akonyl » October 23rd, 2011, 11:39 am

Stopwatch wrote::(, I'll put how I understand it then... so, normally commenting and trying to correct someone's spelling or grammar fails miserably, if they spell stuff wrong in the first place it's either a mistake they keep making (your/you're is a common one) or they simply don't care, more often the latter in my experience so you just have a load of people going on at you about it and nothing is achieved. However, if you put that into this context then it can seem ('cause of the internet being misunderstood so easily) as though they spelt the original word like that (I didn't see the first post so I can't really say) because they couldn't be bothered to check it because that is the usual reason for spelling mistakes for those over a certain age (as opposed to those who simply haven't learnt it properly in school yet). If you consider this is supposed to be because of four deaths then someone not being bothered can come off as very disrespectful.

The other side of the argument is that the group was obviously put there with good intentions, the point was got across and disrupting the mourning because of a trivial spelling mistake is somewhat cruel to all those who are just there to celebrate the lives of those four people. The spelling corrections could have been saved for elsewhere, though as I said before, it usually doesn't have any effect so it would be pretty pointless to try anyway, I gave up long ago :(.

if he meant this completely harmlessly in an attempt to make the group look better and more official, then this might be the case, but as it stands, that wasn't his intention at all. The tone he takes with people who tell him he's out of line, him saying that he and his friend found it funny and his friend telling everyone "pipe down, children" are indicators enough that he wasn't trying to make the group a more respectable place by correcting its grammar.

@Moriarty: If you seriously can't see why you were out of line and being a complete douchebag here, you're much more mentally stunted than anyone who uses the word "thoughs". It's a respect group probably used by the many people who personally knew the victims; it's not the time to be snarky, it's not the time to be edgy, it's not the time to be "superior", it's the time to let family and friends mourn in peace.
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Re: Being a Grammar Nazi at Possibly the Wrong Time

Postby Moriarty » October 23rd, 2011, 3:18 pm

Akonyl wrote:and his friend telling everyone "pipe down, children"


I didn't even know that guy.

But that's beside the point.
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Re: Being a Grammar Nazi at Possibly the Wrong Time

Postby Akonyl » October 23rd, 2011, 3:19 pm

mk, considering he was the noly one who "like"d your status, I figured he was the friend you'd mentioned.
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Re: Being a Grammar Nazi at Possibly the Wrong Time

Postby Kleene Onigiri » October 23rd, 2011, 4:03 pm

If the intention was to point out the grammar because you (Moriarty) thought it was disrespectful, then I think that's ok. Because trying to write correctly means putting in effort, which means that they respect the deceased too. So not putting in any effort would therefore mean to not respect the deceased ones.
But people do mistakes, especially when emotionally unstable.

But Moriarty didn't really sound nice when he was pointing out the mistake :x
But reacting like that is their own fault too. If you don't want a troll, you don't feed the troll. What's the use of saying "he's ignorant/a retard/etc." 100 times? :/
Just the same as if they would troll themselves.
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Re: Being a Grammar Nazi at Possibly the Wrong Time

Postby ranger » October 23rd, 2011, 4:11 pm

People  are going to give you shit/ alienate you/beat you up now when you go to school for this
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Re: Being a Grammar Nazi at Possibly the Wrong Time

Postby kkslider5552000 » October 23rd, 2011, 4:19 pm

ranger wrote:People  are going to give you shit/ alienate you/beat you up now when you go to school for this

I can confirm that saying something worse in a similar situation doesn't get you that reaction.



yeah...
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Re: Being a Grammar Nazi at Possibly the Wrong Time

Postby doublemoonlight » October 23rd, 2011, 5:37 pm

@kleene

He said he did it because of 'black hummor' and that he and his friend found it funny. I don't think he did it out of respect for the dead...
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Re: Being a Grammar Nazi at Possibly the Wrong Time

Postby IHKF » October 23rd, 2011, 5:45 pm

doublemoonlight wrote:@kleene

He said he did it because of 'black hummor' and that he and his friend found it funny. I don't think he did it out of respect for the dead...


Exactly. Not to mention black humor (black humor and dark humor are the same thing, right? XD)would've been the kid dying years ago, him making a short little rant on the grammar, somebody telling him the kids dead, and him responding (embarrassed and guilty of course) responding with an uncomfortable/awkward response... not posting it up, then fighting with the people online about how he wasn't wrong in the least for being inconsiderate and cold to the mourning families.
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Re: Being a Grammar Nazi at Possibly the Wrong Time

Postby Moriarty » October 23rd, 2011, 6:36 pm

Kleene had exactly my mindset.

What I found "funny" was that the individuals were walking into a troll. I mean, when the initial post was about an effortless grammatical error, and people get mad at me for pointing it out, however harsh I did, while making more mistakes, they are setting themselves up.
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Re: Being a Grammar Nazi at Possibly the Wrong Time

Postby doublemoonlight » October 23rd, 2011, 6:42 pm

what they were mad is not at you pointing out grammatical mistakes but at you not giving damn about the dead. If you got nothing good to say to them don't go their. go and be grammer Nazi on other places like here but not on some funeral where people are emotionally unstable. You were basically throwing rocks at the face of people mouring. OF COURSE THEY WILL HATE YOUR GUTS!!!!
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Re: Being a Grammar Nazi at Possibly the Wrong Time

Postby IHKF » October 23rd, 2011, 6:46 pm

Moriarty wrote:Kleene had exactly my mindset.

What I found "funny" was that the individuals were walking into a troll. I mean, when the initial post was about an effortless grammatical error, and people get mad at me for pointing it out, however harsh I did, while making more mistakes, they are setting themselves up.


But that was NOT RIGHT. That was MORALLY messed up and you should have stopped right there and then. It was YOUR fault they had to deal with a troll in the first place and you were the one in the wrong here.
What part of that is so hard to understand?
You hurt people who were already mourning to begin with. You can't just go on acting like you were in the right when you know (at least I HOPE you know) you were wrong. Yes they shouldn't have reacted the way you did but would you have reacted any differently? What if somebody you loved died and then was harshly criticized by some lunatic or decided to be a picky jerk at that moment? You would've reacted the same way I'm sure, you have no right- NO RIGHT to be on a high horse here, buddy. :/
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Re: Being a Grammar Nazi at Possibly the Wrong Time

Postby doublemoonlight » October 23rd, 2011, 6:47 pm

add to the fact that NO ONE here thought it was funny.
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