Today's Bad Stories !

[Kaito Lady]

I'm sorry for you, cinnamoroll... I wish you good luck for this new year 2013!

^^^^

[mangaluva]

Well, I started my working day well. I was in the whisky shop, which means IDing some customers. Not all of them, we're allowed to skip ID if the customer looks safely over 25 (legal age is 18, but we're to ID if they look under 25 to be on the safe side), but sometimes we do have to refuse service to customers who don't have ID.

My first transaction was a Spanish couple with silver streaks in their hair, so I skipped IDing. The next was a group of Japanese girls that I ID'd and refused service to because three of them had no ID. They utterly exploded at me, yelling at me for IDing them when I hadn't ID'd the couple ahead of them and accused me of withholding service for being a "racist gaijin".

No, stroppy customer-chan, I ID'd your group because:
1) all of you are shorter than me and look about half my weight,
2) all of you were bedecked in the vastest array of sickening kawaii that I have ever seen
3) when you were talking amongst yourselves, you were using childish speech patterns-- I'm not fluent in Japanese, but I am aware that appending "~ne?" to the end of every single bloody one of your sentences is not what grownups do.

That is why I ID'd you, and that is why I withheld service when some of you had no ID. There's no use in screaming and shouting and eventually throwing a souvenir guide at my head.

[Suutashi]

Well, I started my working day well. I was in the whisky shop, which means IDing some customers. Not all of them, we're allowed to skip ID if the customer looks safely over 25 (legal age is 18, but we're to ID if they look under 25 to be on the safe side), but sometimes we do have to refuse service to customers who don't have ID.

My first transaction was a Spanish couple with silver streaks in their hair, so I skipped IDing. The next was a group of Japanese girls that I ID'd and refused service to because three of them had no ID. They utterly exploded at me, yelling at me for IDing them when I hadn't ID'd the couple ahead of them and accused me of withholding service for being a "racist gaijin".

No, stroppy customer-chan, I ID'd your group because:
1) all of you are shorter than me and look about half my weight,
2) all of you were bedecked in the vastest array of sickening kawaii that I have ever seen
3) when you were talking amongst yourselves, you were using childish speech patterns-- I'm not fluent in Japanese, but I am aware that appending "~ne?" to the end of every single bloody one of your sentences is not what grownups do.

That is why I ID'd you, and that is why I withheld service when some of you had no ID. There's no use in screaming and shouting and eventually throwing a souvenir guide at my head.

I had something similar happen to me yesterday. I was ringing up the woman's order and scanned a box of Mucinex and got the prompt to scan her ID. The woman flipped out and wanted to know why she would have to even give me her ID for medicine. I told her it was because of the decongestant in the medicine and even the woman behind her in line told her that. Hell, the woman behind her even went so far as to name the specific kind of decongestant and how it was used to make Meth. I finally got her to hand her ID so I can scan it and finished ringing up her first order. I started on her second order and rang up a package of party favor which included some party poppers and some Christmas crackers. (Not the kind you eat but the kind of party favor that you pull open.) The damn woman flips out again and refused to let me scan her ID. She wound up not buying the damn things after throwing a tantrum about how ridiculous it was that she had to be carded for party favors that contain black powder. Lady, I'm acting in accordance with the law and I can't make you an exception. Then, again, I wouldn't even if I could.

[aly_angelflight]

Well, I started my working day well. I was in the whisky shop, which means IDing some customers. Not all of them, we're allowed to skip ID if the customer looks safely over 25 (legal age is 18, but we're to ID if they look under 25 to be on the safe side), but sometimes we do have to refuse service to customers who don't have ID.

My first transaction was a Spanish couple with silver streaks in their hair, so I skipped IDing. The next was a group of Japanese girls that I ID'd and refused service to because three of them had no ID. They utterly exploded at me, yelling at me for IDing them when I hadn't ID'd the couple ahead of them and accused me of withholding service for being a "racist gaijin".

No, stroppy customer-chan, I ID'd your group because:
1) all of you are shorter than me and look about half my weight,
2) all of you were bedecked in the vastest array of sickening kawaii that I have ever seen
3) when you were talking amongst yourselves, you were using childish speech patterns-- I'm not fluent in Japanese, but I am aware that appending "~ne?" to the end of every single bloody one of your sentences is not what grownups do.

That is why I ID'd you, and that is why I withheld service when some of you had no ID. There's no use in screaming and shouting and eventually throwing a souvenir guide at my head.

Japan is horrible at enforcing their minimum drinking age, so there's likely the "I don't get ID'ed at home!" mentality, too.

Still doesn't make what they did forgivable, though. *shakes her head*

[Callid]

Well, I started my working day well. I was in the whisky shop, which means IDing some customers. Not all of them, we're allowed to skip ID if the customer looks safely over 25 (legal age is 18, but we're to ID if they look under 25 to be on the safe side), but sometimes we do have to refuse service to customers who don't have ID.

My first transaction was a Spanish couple with silver streaks in their hair, so I skipped IDing. The next was a group of Japanese girls that I ID'd and refused service to because three of them had no ID. They utterly exploded at me, yelling at me for IDing them when I hadn't ID'd the couple ahead of them and accused me of withholding service for being a "racist gaijin".

No, stroppy customer-chan, I ID'd your group because:
1) all of you are shorter than me and look about half my weight,
2) all of you were bedecked in the vastest array of sickening kawaii that I have ever seen
3) when you were talking amongst yourselves, you were using childish speech patterns-- I'm not fluent in Japanese, but I am aware that appending "~ne?" to the end of every single bloody one of your sentences is not what grownups do.

That is why I ID'd you, and that is why I withheld service when some of you had no ID. There's no use in screaming and shouting and eventually throwing a souvenir guide at my head.

Well, 2) and 3) aren't all that valid, considering Japanese culture. Japanese women might actually well do that (due to the whole kawaii idealism). #1 is still valid, though.

[nomemory]

Well, I started my working day well. I was in the whisky shop, which means IDing some customers. Not all of them, we're allowed to skip ID if the customer looks safely over 25 (legal age is 18, but we're to ID if they look under 25 to be on the safe side), but sometimes we do have to refuse service to customers who don't have ID.

My first transaction was a Spanish couple with silver streaks in their hair, so I skipped IDing. The next was a group of Japanese girls that I ID'd and refused service to because three of them had no ID. They utterly exploded at me, yelling at me for IDing them when I hadn't ID'd the couple ahead of them and accused me of withholding service for being a "racist gaijin".

No, stroppy customer-chan, I ID'd your group because:
1) all of you are shorter than me and look about half my weight,
2) all of you were bedecked in the vastest array of sickening kawaii that I have ever seen
3) when you were talking amongst yourselves, you were using childish speech patterns-- I'm not fluent in Japanese, but I am aware that appending "~ne?" to the end of every single bloody one of your sentences is not what grownups do.

That is why I ID'd you, and that is why I withheld service when some of you had no ID. There's no use in screaming and shouting and eventually throwing a souvenir guide at my head.

Well, 2) and 3) aren't all that valid, considering Japanese culture. Japanese women might actually well do that (due to the whole kawaii idealism). #1 is still valid, though.

I would still think that the kawaii thing is more common with younger people.

[mangaluva]

Being kawaii simply does not contribute to making you look over the drinking age, especially for those who aren't familiar with the culture. My coworkers were amazed that any of them were over 18 at all.

I know some people feel like it's not fair that you can't buy alcohol if your friends don't have ID, but it's the law. Quite a few people with no ID flip out at me for not selling, not appreciating that I could not only lose my job but get arrested if I sold to them. I know some tourists like having a laugh about coming to Scotland and being able to start drinking at ten in the morning, but you still need to prove that you're old enough to purchase that drink.

[Callid]

I know some people feel like it's not fair that you can't buy alcohol if your friends don't have ID, but it's the law.

That's quite a strange law o.O
What stops people from just leaving the minors outside the shop when they buy alcohol?
Only thing more ridiculous would be like forbidding legal guardians from allowing their children to have a sip of wine before they're 21 XD

[mangaluva]

I know some people feel like it's not fair that you can't buy alcohol if your friends don't have ID, but it's the law.

That's quite a strange law o.O
What stops people from just leaving the minors outside the shop when they buy alcohol?
Only thing more ridiculous would be like forbidding legal guardians from allowing their children to have a sip of wine before they're 21 XD

The law is against buying alcohol for a minor. No, there's nothing to stop people leaving minors outside of the shop, but you'd be amazed at how many people don't, or split up from their friends immediately before coming to the till and expecting us to be too dumb to notice that they're out with people with no ID. Parents with children don't count, but it is illegal to sell ID to someone who is with friends or siblings with no ID, in case they're buying the alcohol for their friends. If they're caught handing over alcohol to a minor outside of the shop, they'll be arrested. It's the same for cigarettes.

Also, it's not illegal for parents to allow their children to drink in their homes. It is considered up to a parent's discretion whether or not their children are allowed to drink. However, if you allow your children to get drunk in public, that's a different story. If you let your 14-year-old get smashed and then stagger to Tesco's and a police officer spots him, you will be arrested for parental negligence. Fair enough.

[Callid]

I know some people feel like it's not fair that you can't buy alcohol if your friends don't have ID, but it's the law.

That's quite a strange law o.O
What stops people from just leaving the minors outside the shop when they buy alcohol?
Only thing more ridiculous would be like forbidding legal guardians from allowing their children to have a sip of wine before they're 21 XD

The law is against buying alcohol for a minor. No, there's nothing to stop people leaving minors outside of the shop, but you'd be amazed at how many people don't, or split up from their friends immediately before coming to the till and expecting us to be too dumb to notice that they're out with people with no ID. Parents with children don't count, but it is illegal to sell ID to someone who is with friends or siblings with no ID, in case they're buying the alcohol for their friends. If they're caught handing over alcohol to a minor outside of the shop, they'll be arrested. It's the same for cigarettes.

Still sounds a bit strange to me. Even if one would forget it at the first shop, they can just go to another one and leave them outside then. Or, if the shop is large enough, leave, re-enter the shop and go to a different cashier (leaving the minors outside again) :x
Also, I do wonder - even if the adult re-enters and the others leave, on which legal basis could the cashier then deny them to buy alcohol? After all, the minors might just as well have left (and not wait behind the next corner :x), and unless the cashier actually goes out and searches up and down the street, there isn't really any reason why it's more likely the adult's lying than that he's telling the truth (not to mention, in dubio pro reo).

Also, it's not illegal for parents to allow their children to drink in their homes. It is considered up to a parent's discretion whether or not their children are allowed to drink. However, if you allow your children to get drunk in public, that's a different story. If you let your 14-year-old get smashed and then stagger to Tesco's and a police officer spots him, you will be arrested for parental negligence. Fair enough.

That's the same over here, and both practical and (IMO) sufficient.

[GinRei]

Well, 2) and 3) aren't all that valid, considering Japanese culture. Japanese women might actually well do that (due to the whole kawaii idealism). #1 is still valid, though.

No, they're still valid.  She isn't refusing service because of them, she's asking for ID because of them.  She could ask for ID from every damn customer, but there are some signs that it isn't needed.  It isn't a matter of "What will make them card you", but "What will make it so they don't card you".

That's quite a strange law o.O

It's a perfectly logical law.  Do you know how many people have older friends they get to buy beer for them?  It's not uncommon at all.

What stops people from just leaving the minors outside the shop when they buy alcohol?

A brain, which many don't have.  You can't get in trouble for something outside of your control, such as who someone may have waiting for them outside.  But if they're standing there, they're obviously together.

Only thing more ridiculous would be like forbidding legal guardians from allowing their children to have a sip of wine before they're 21 XD

Yeah, because a legal guardian allowing a sip is the same as a friend or random stranger buy you booze so you can get wasted out of your mind.  No difference at all.

[Callid]

Well, 2) and 3) aren't all that valid, considering Japanese culture. Japanese women might actually well do that (due to the whole kawaii idealism). #1 is still valid, though.

No, they're still valid.  She isn't refusing service because of them, she's asking for ID because of them.  She could ask for ID from every damn customer, but there are some signs that it isn't needed.  It isn't a matter of "What will make them card you", but "What will make it so they don't card you".

She was listing them as indicators that they were minors, which they weren't. It's a bit like counting facial hair as an indicator for being over 21.

That's quite a strange law o.O

It's a perfectly logical law.  Do you know how many people have older friends they get to buy beer for them?  It's not uncommon at all.

Yes, but there's nothing you can do about it. This law is a bit like making a law that says that speed limits only apply once a policeman has reminded you that you were speeding, and only until he's out of sight. Yes, that means the law is easy to enforce, but the law is weird anyway - the purpose of outlawing speeding is to prevent accidents that occur due to it, not to temporarily stop those speeders that are stupid enough to do it in front of a police car.

What stops people from just leaving the minors outside the shop when they buy alcohol?

A brain, which many don't have.  You can't get in trouble for something outside of your control, such as who someone may have waiting for them outside.  But if they're standing there, they're obviously together.

Still doesn't mean they'll share the alcohol with them.

Only thing more ridiculous would be like forbidding legal guardians from allowing their children to have a sip of wine before they're 21 XD

Yeah, because a legal guardian allowing a sip is the same as a friend or random stranger buy you booze so you can get wasted out of your mind.  No difference at all.

That's why I said more ridiculous. Also, the random stranger is a weird thing anyway; the stranger should be responsible enough not to buy some kid alcohol.

[GinRei]

She was listing them as indicators that they were minors, which they weren't. It's a bit like counting facial hair as an indicator for being over 21.

Don't get nit-picky.  The rules are that they check everyone unless they have a reason not to.  The rules are not to only card those you believe to be underage.

Yes, but there's nothing you can do about it. This law is a bit like making a law that says that speed limits only apply once a policeman has reminded you that you were speeding, and only until he's out of sight. Yes, that means the law is easy to enforce, but the law is weird anyway - the purpose of outlawing speeding is to prevent accidents that occur due to it, not to temporarily stop those speeders that are stupid enough to do it in front of a police car.

See, you're getting it wrong.  You aren't doing it in front of the enforcers who can nail you on it.  You're doing it at the suppliers.  A store cannot arrest you or give you a ticket for breaking this law.  They can, however, limit their liability.

Still doesn't mean they'll share the alcohol with them.

Again, limiting the store's liability.  There's a chance they will, and they don't want to be held responsible.  Don't like it?  Bring a freaking ID to prove your age.  I don't know why anyone wouldn't have one anyway, especially a foreign traveler who would need a passport.

That's why I said more ridiculous. Also, the random stranger is a weird thing anyway; the stranger should be responsible enough not to buy some kid alcohol.

ROFL.  Wow, you're naive beyond belief.  I don't think any more needs to be said on this matter.

[mangaluva]

Callid, it's cute how you don't think there are people out there who are willing to buy alcohol for minors in exchange for a bit of cash themselves. I love how you think everyone becomes responsible upon turning age 21 or so. Seriously, I wish I lived in your world.

In the meantime, I am required to be paranoid about who I sell alcohol to. May I repeat that if I sell alcohol to someone underage, or sell alcohol to someone who is caught giving it to someone underage, I risk both my job and my opportunity to live life without prison?

[sonoci]

I didn't pass Calculus so I've got to take it again.

F my life. F it so hard right now.