What your opinion about climate crisis?

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Saw this lol and have something to say.
Kleene Onigiri wrote: Strange argument. If I reduce meat as food, then I'll need more crops. So I'll use petroleum for food anyway? ::)
And meat is important for body growth etc.
Meat is fine actually, a change as radical as going straight into vegan or vegetarian diet will generally turn off most people. The issue here is beef. Now what about beef? Okay some (or many? i just don't know.) people like beef. but we should cut down on this. well, the amount of methane one cow produces every year through its faeces as well as.. 'natural gases' (lol, cows fart a lot. seriously.) is quite substantial. when you consider the number of cows in ranches all around the world to support the huge demand for beef, the total amount of methane produced annually becomes a staggering number. more info here: http://animals.howstuffworks.com/mammal ... ne-cow.htm
If we were able to cut down the demand by even one single percent, we reduce quite an amount of greenhouse gas emitted already.

Another thing is, if people were to turn vegetarian (very unlikely though) then lands will be used to plant crops instead of raising animals, then we'll have more CO2-absorbing plants than CO2-producing animals. (okay plants release CO2 as well yes, but if you compare them with animals.. you get what I mean. photosynthesis takes away more CO2 than they produce.) then the net amount of greenhouse gas emitted would significantly decrease. Although of course, there are other complications like rice crops producing methane :V (but of course, cutting beef demand is much easier, imo, than cutting down rice demand.)
Kleene Onigiri wrote: This will be hard. I already breathed now. And again. And again. Oh noes, better stop breathing!
This does not exactly count. (the difference is minimal.) the point in global warming is, we've been releasing too much extra carbon gases into the environment. what do i mean by extra? those that had been hidden deep in the ocean, land etc. (namely, fossil fuels, natural gases, etc.) the carbon dioxide we emit is basically the return of the carbon we obtained from nature, (food, etc) so theoretically we do not add up the original amount of carbon significantly.
*This may seem contradictory to my argument regarding cows above, but if we cut down demands on beef we effectively prevent all the organic compounds from being converted in the cows' bodies into methane (which is evidently a bad greenhouse gas). so in this sense, raising other animals like chicken will produce a lot less average amount of greenhouse gas as less carbon is converted into greenhouse gases.*
Kleene Onigiri wrote: This is good! But seriously. Where do you find such minimally packed goods? You can't buy them :V Since there is no such thing ::)
This is more aimed for the directors of a company than for the normal civilian that can't influence that. Of course you could theoretically influence it when you buy minimally packed goods. But if there isn't such a thing (or not enough) in the first place? :x
By minimally packed, the author probably meant those with group packs instead of individual packs. eg. those fancy biscuits that have a pack for every 2 biscuits etc. Well it probably won't mean anything until a huge part of the whole community turns to the minimally packed so probably this won't happen for the next decade. (since the individual packages give a lot convenience and people love convenience. unless a huge global warming-related catastrophe happens, people would probably stick to the current packaging) :V


The sad thing about all this is that people can't see the effect each of them does in reality, thus it slowly makes them lose interest and enthusiasm in anti-global warming things, unless everything becomes a habit. what they see are just numbers and plain numbers. some others just don't care. so probably the only ways are the typical textbook ways :V
to make a significant effect in our generation is probably unlikely unless a revolutionary invention appears, which I doubt anytime soon.
I'd bet on education and getting those low carbon transport (public transport, hybrid cars, etc.) more than anything else.
or maybe people should research on cutting down carbon on planes. they give a hell lot of carbon and other greenhouse gases away. and the issue is that they're released straight into the clouds. lol.
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thanks a lot for sharing!

and now i get what you mean by individual pack.

since 2 or 3 years ago, i and my family stop buying soft drink like cocacola, fanta or sprite or any other brand in can. when we want to drink it, we buy the 1.5 L pet bottle. that help us saving both money and trash. (the can only 220ml while the Pet bottle is 1500ml)
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