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ranger wrote:
ProfParanoia wrote:
Kamite wrote: Is it wrong that I want another country than my own to win at least one medal?
I usually pick to support every country over my own :P.
pretty much this..

gonna be rooting for Argentina for men's basketball
things ranger values in basketball:

1) flopping
2) ??????
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Brazil currently getting first in Judo, damn you Mitsuyo Maeda. But ya, I'm not surprised.

I am, however, surprised that Iran isn't doing better in weightlifting, but I guess that's just how it goes sometimes.
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dilbertschalter wrote:
ranger wrote:
ProfParanoia wrote:
Kamite wrote: Is it wrong that I want another country than my own to win at least one medal?
I usually pick to support every country over my own :P.
pretty much this..

gonna be rooting for Argentina for men's basketball
things ranger values in basketball:

1) flopping
2) ??????
Have you watched the appearances of Argentina's men's basketball for the last 10 years?
I guess not.
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Totally disappointed in the Australian Men's 4x100m freestyle relay. No one seemed to have performed their best =\
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Here's the thing about China and the Olympics:

"Chinese Olympic athletes are government employees, raised by and for the state."

Most countries, strictly including the U.S., do not pay and breed their athletes and they are not government employees. To me, it's much more impressive to have these natural athletes that are participating in a sport because they love it than they have no other choice because it's what they've been forced into doing as a means of survival from youth.

But, this is what you get with a Communist regime--we all know how it goes, it's nothing new (ever noticed how the USSR did so well in the past with their own grinding system, which China fully modeled their own after, and yet don't quite do so well anymore after the collapse?). Communism is simply a systematic excuse for a government to abuse its citizens for whatever purpose they deem fit. I just don't find robot athletes competing out of fear and obligation to be very impressive or dignifying of a country. Instead, it makes me pity the people involved when the entire point of the Olympics is being ignored in favor of breeding athletes solely for that purpose. Let it be known that China has over 3,000 "sports schools" whose sole purpose is to churn out athletes and nothing more... and the students begin their "training" at the age of 4. Yes, four years of age. Ahead of them, they have only a lifetime of being stuck in the system to look forward to.

Yang Wenjun is just another of the forced robot athletes from China, who won a gold medal in canoeing in 2004. As a result, he was given a three-bedroom apartment for winning and enduring all those years of forced sporting... but the story doesn't end there--keep reading. For more perspective, here is what his mother had to say:
His mother, Nie Chunhua, said Yang had been anything but lucky. She wiped away tears with hands dark and swollen from farming. "If I had better economic condition, I would not like him to do sports," Nie, 49, said this spring. "Every time I think about him training, I feel so sad that my heart hurts. For him, and for me, there is so much pain."
You won't see that sort of heartbreaking sentiment from the parents of an athlete doing something because they came to love it on their own. Keep in mind: That's the mother of a gold medalist talking up there. But, everyone involved knows that it's a torturous life to be an Olympic athlete under the rule of Communist China.

Oh, and before you think that apartment was a gracious gift, read into it a little more:
Yang, one of China’s most successful water sports athletes, has never lived in his apartment. He has not seen his parents in three years. At 24, he lives 250 miles away at his sport’s training center, where he is preparing for the Beijing Olympics.

Yang said he could not stand his life.

For nearly a decade, he has tried to quit canoeing, he told The New York Times during an interview at the training center. He said he would rather attend college or start a business, but acknowledged that he was ill-equipped to do either one.
Chinese athletes have no choice but to give up their entire lives to be groomed to compete. That's what they do. They cannot choose where to live or whether they can even date on their own terms. Many of them spend at least a decade at the complex, their entire young lives, and have nothing but misery to show for it.
America's "flying fish," as Chinese news media have labeled gold magnet Michael Phelps, is free to decide such basic issues as where he lives and whether he dates. China's own "flying man," hurdler Liu Xiang, must live year-round in a government boarding school complex and delay dating until after the Games.
They can't even retire as they wish. China is known for its blatant human rights violations toward so many of its citizens that it does so little for (welcome to communism), but when you blackmail people into not being able to retire, what are you really achieving?
Officials refused to let Yang retire, even after he won Olympic gold in the C-2 500-meter race with Meng Guanliang at the Athens Games in 2004. He described how they had threatened to withhold his retirement payment if he did not compete through the Beijing Games. “It is not possible to survive without those benefits,â€
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dilbertschalter wrote:
ranger wrote:
ProfParanoia wrote:
Kamite wrote: Is it wrong that I want another country than my own to win at least one medal?
I usually pick to support every country over my own :P.
pretty much this..

gonna be rooting for Argentina for men's basketball
things ranger values in basketball:

1) flopping
2) ??????
haha, implying that all basketball players in the NBA don't 'flop' or try to sell the foul

yo precious Lebron James, [insert favorite athlete here], Dwayne, Allen Iverson, Kobe, Marshmelo Anthony, Bosh, Durant, Ray Allen, Blake Griffin, CP3,etc etc are alllll "floppers" 

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@Jd: So it's just like every country, but instead of parents it's the government?
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I find it amusing that in the Judo, a lot of them are using (and winning) with very low belt moves. This has always bugged me in Judo when I was a kid - what's the point in learning all of those sophisticated moves if at the end of the day, you're just going to use what you learned when you were a white belt?
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Kor wrote: I find it amusing that in the Judo, a lot of them are using (and winning) with very low belt moves. This has always bugged me in Judo when I was a kid - what's the point in learning all of those sophisticated moves if at the end of the day, you're just going to use what you learned when you were a white belt?
The more sophisticated stuff is in between the white belt submissions, doing the same work horse finishers over and over like someone with a higher belt will just get really good at moving from position to position in more exact technique better than the opponent. We could toss a white belt in there, I don't think he'll win. EDIT: Well I mean, some losses are just bad, but I haven been watching the judo matches.

And some submission are there because people got bored and thought it would make class less repetitive.
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The three-point field goal by that australian girl 3 seconds before the end of the match was amazing, especially since it led to Australia tying with France (65-65). They still lost after the overtime though. I hope someone posts the video on youtube.
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I like how the American Judo competitor looks like a cross between Juni Browning and Cobra Kai.
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Unbelievable the refs today in women's fencing. They robbed the South Korean fencer.
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Top 10 after day 3 :

1. (=) China (9) (5) (3) Total : (17 +5)
2. (=) USA (5) (7) (5) Total : (17 +6)
3. (+2) France (3) (1) (3) Total : (7 +3)
4. (+2) North Korea (3) (0) (1) Total : (4 +1)
5. (-2) Italy (2) (4) (2) Total : (8 +1)
6. (-2) South Korea (2) (2) (2) Total : (6 +1)
7. (RE) Russia (2) (0) (3) Total : (5)
8. (-1) Kazakhstan (2) (0) (0) Total : (2)
9. (RE) Japan (1) (4) (6) Total : (11)
10. (-2) Australia (1) (2) (1) Total : (4 +1)

Host country :

20. (-4) Great Britain (0) (1) (2) Total : (3 +1)


The US catches up with China for the totals but China remains first thanks to the numerous gold medals and even increases its lead in that department. France becomes the first european country in the rankings thanks to a third gold medal in swimming but stays behind Italy in the totals. North Korea and South Korea switch places thank to Kim Un Guk's win in weightlifting. Russia gets back into the top 10 with 2 gold medals in one day in judo leaving Kazakhstan one spot behind. Japan also makes its way into the top 10 after a win in judo. Despite winning an additional medal, Australia continues to decline, it leaving the top 10 would be something very unusual for summer olympics, the country will have to count on Magnussen doing well tomorrow, among other things.

Meanwhile, the host country loses a few spots as well despite its historical bronze medal in men's gymnastics (first medal for british gymnasts since 1912) and still fails to wins a gold medal after three days.  
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So.....here's something weird. Apparently, Israel is considered to be in Europe, at least in this website:
http://www.london2012.com/countries/area=europe/
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