Kaitou-Shinichi long lost twins???

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Re: Kaitou-Shinichi long lost twins???

Postby Detective Tommy » July 14th, 2010, 2:31 am

pofa wrote:
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Haha, it's ok. I'll remove it from my quote.
But I don't care. Not sure if others will be annoyed. o_o;


I hope not. *gives everyone cookies* :-X

:-[ :-[ :-[

Anyway...I want to see more backstory as well. Whether it leads to Kaito and Shinichi being twins or not.  ::) ;D


Lol, I bet they're poisoned! >:(
And I doubt they're twins.

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Re: Kaitou-Shinichi long lost twins???

Postby pofa » July 14th, 2010, 2:40 am

No, they're memory-erasing cookies.

No, they're not twins, but it's a clever marketing scheme by Gosho:

Shinichi=original flavor
Heiji=Osaka flavor
Kaito=criminal flavor
Hakuba=crumpets foreigner flavor
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Re: Kaitou-Shinichi long lost twins???

Postby pofa » July 14th, 2010, 2:56 am

That makes less sense since I deleted the second half of my post. D:

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Re: Kaitou-Shinichi long lost twins???

Postby zhang3011 » July 17th, 2010, 2:32 am

shinichi and kaito's fathers were both rivals like they sort of are o.o
and i heard somewhere that they were cousins, so yeah ._.
Shinichi/Ran's age now, but in my defense Shinichi was actually this age two years before I was born
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Re: Kaitou-Shinichi long lost twins???

Postby zhang3011 » July 17th, 2010, 2:34 am

pofa wrote:No, they're memory-erasing cookies.

No, they're not twins, but it's a clever marketing scheme by Gosho:

Shinichi=original flavor
Heiji=Osaka flavor
Kaito=criminal flavor
Hakuba=crumpets foreigner flavor


hoo...~
that's a good theory ;]
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Re: Kaitou-Shinichi long lost twins???

Postby meitantei_ebonypol » July 23rd, 2010, 6:23 am

i hope there cousins !!  :)  :)
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Postby mangaluva » July 24th, 2010, 10:02 am

meitantei_ebonypol wrote:i hope there cousins !!  :)  :)


That theory was put forwards by Becky Tailweaver's "A Relative Truth" fanfic. Unfortunately, the Yukiko flashback at the end of the episode where Shinichi remembers meeting Toichi as a child (not that he knows it's him) more or less completely refutes this, as Yukiko only ever refers to Toichi as a teacher or acquaintance, never as a brother or brother-in-law, as he would have to be for Shinichi and Kaito to be cousins. Unless, say, Toichi and Yuusaku were brothers and didn't know it.
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Postby Akemi~chan » July 24th, 2010, 10:43 am

mangaluva wrote:
meitantei_ebonypol wrote:i hope there cousins !!  :)  :)


That theory was put forwards by Becky Tailweaver's "A Relative Truth" fanfic. Unfortunately, the Yukiko flashback at the end of the episode where Shinichi remembers meeting Toichi as a child (not that he knows it's him) more or less completely refutes this, as Yukiko only ever refers to Toichi as a teacher or acquaintance, never as a brother or brother-in-law, as he would have to be for Shinichi and Kaito to be cousins. Unless, say, Toichi and Yuusaku were brothers and didn't know it.


that or they could have had a falling out years ago and didn't tell their wives when they got married. yuusaku would still chase him to catch or protect him but if they wanted to protect their families they might not tell them.
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Re: Kaitou-Shinichi long lost twins???

Postby Kaito Lady » April 9th, 2011, 1:07 pm

SkyVenger wrote:Actually I made Kaito as Shinichi's clone in one of my fanfics... haha don't mind me :P


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Re: Kaitou-Shinichi long lost twins???

Postby queenmisanagi » April 13th, 2011, 11:20 am

I read somewhere that they have the same blood type and IQ. Of course, they were born a month apart.

It would be fun if they were related but I doubt it. Yusaku and Toichi do look a lot alike as well but it was never mentioned if they were long-lost relatives. Or, you know, some people do just look alike a lot. Nothing wrong with that.. and this is extremely possible especially in fiction. This isn't the first time strangers have been carbon copies of each other. The Prince and the Pauper sounds familiar?
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Re: Kaitou-Shinichi long lost twins???

Postby mangaluva » June 20th, 2011, 2:55 pm

It's not the only time it's happened in the DC manga, to boot. Yes, they're a lot alike, but so are my teaching partner and I, and she's from Australia, her dad's family being Indian and her mother's family Irish Catholic, neither of which any of my blood relatives and I. We think a lot alike, have the same tastes, likes and dislikes and interests, and even look a lot alike. It's a bit creepy.
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Re: Kaitou-Shinichi long lost twins???

Postby MeitanteiShinichi » November 16th, 2014, 5:16 pm

Solera wrote:err well even if you don't have the same blood type... you could be relatives[pls remember that o.o]

That is true.
I personally think their fathers are brothers. Their fathers look more alike.........They should be cousins. ??? ???
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Re: Kaitou-Shinichi long lost twins???

Postby Van Keiji » February 1st, 2015, 4:50 pm

I understand that this discussion is old, but I'm going to liven things up with what I have noticed.
1. The obvious: Shinichi and Kaito look alike, as well as their fathers.
2. There is no way that Shinichi and Kaito have the same mother, since Kaito's mother is
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the Phantom Lady
and Shinichi's mother should have still been an actress at the same time, which would have kept her busy.
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There is a flashback episode (can't remember if it is in the manga) where a thief meets Shinichi and Ran in their school, and with the little hints the thief can possibly be identified as the original Kaito Kid. Kid tells Shinichi that he is Shinichi's little brother which, after the flashback, was realized to be a message for Yuusaku.

4.
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Touichi was supposedly killed 8 years ago. Yuusaku probably could not have gone on helping police or become such a well known author if he and Touichi were the same person because it would beg the people who attempted to kill him to check him out.


Now for some speculations:
1. Names can be changed, even last names. So the difference in names doesn't count for much.
2. If either Yuusaku or Touichi changed their names, would they still refer to each other as brothers if that was their relationship? This is an especially good point to look at seeing as Yuusaku became a mystery author who assisted the police and Kouichi became the phantom thief. Not letting others know they were brothers would allow them to continue life normally without being in each others way, especially if Touichi were found out. If that happened and they were known brothers, Yuusaku would have lost a great deal of credibility as a detective.
3. It is possible that Yuukiko only got lessons from Touichi because Yuusaku asked.

So, I do not believe Shinichi and Kaito are long lost brothers. Although the idea is marvelous, it is completely illogical. I personally believe Shinichi and Kaito are cousins whose fathers, who were brothers, changed their last names to protect each other and wound up in a friendly rivalry.
Also, I'm wondering if Shinichi and Kaito are actually fighting different branches of the same organizations since both of their targets have to do with
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eternal youth, Anokata may have decided to take more than one approach toward his goal
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Hope this starts a nice, lively discussion ;) ;) ;)

Oh, and I believe Shinichi and Kaito are tied. Shinichi is a detective, his job is not to capture but to comprehend, and I'd say he figured out all the tricks. And Kaito always got away. So even. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Kaitou-Shinichi long lost twins???

Postby Shiromi » February 2nd, 2015, 1:48 am

Oh! Fanfic idea!

Shinichi is Kaito's half-brother, through Kaito's father. Vermouth is Shinichi's mother, and she slept with Kaito's father wearing his mother's face.

It makes no sense timeline-wise, but it'd be a fun mind-hype to explore.

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Re: Kaitou-Shinichi long lost twins???

Postby kkslider5552000 » February 2nd, 2015, 2:19 am

Shiromi wrote:Oh! Fanfic idea!

Shinichi is Kaito's half-brother, through Kaito's father. Vermouth is Shinichi's mother, and she slept with Kaito's father wearing his mother's face.

It makes no sense timeline-wise, but it'd be a fun mind-hype to explore.

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