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No One Gets Hurt?

Postby Shiromi » January 9th, 2014, 10:04 pm

Or do they?

This is something I've noticed, but I don't really know what to make of it. Where does this line come from?

I've looked over all of the canon appearances of Kaitou KID, the manga, the anime, the Detective Conan manga, anime, specials, and movies, and I don't think he ever says that. "Keep up your Pokerface" is much more like KID's motto, and the closest to "no one get's hurt" was a reporter saying "KID steals gems, not lives."

Also, KID hurts people all the time. He knocks them out, traps them in painful, compromising ways, lets them fall down stairs, stuck under heaps of fellow officers - getting tons of bumps, bruises, and being drugged constantly must be part of being in the KID taskforce. Heck, he even tazers Conan! So, how and when did the "No one gets hurt" line come about?
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Re: No One Gets Hurt?

Postby Raifuujin » January 9th, 2014, 11:00 pm

Hmm... I don't ever remember anything canon mentioning the 'no one gets hurt' policy. (Unless I'm failing as a Kid fan and forgetting something.) I get the feeling it came from the depths of fanfiction, so finding exactly where it started would be difficult. I think it just came from the general knowledge that it's in Kaito's character to keep others out of danger (setting aside the teasing of the police and the definite OOC moment with the tazer...). He helps others at the risk of his own life, even when they try killing him, so came about the 'no one gets hurt' in the fandom. (By my guessing, anyway. I could be completely wrong.) And in the canon, there are characters that don't believe he would kill, when he's a suspect for murder.
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Re: No One Gets Hurt?

Postby Chekhov MacGuffin » January 9th, 2014, 11:24 pm

I'm far from the best read about Kid, but I second Raifuujin's opinion about not remembering any motto about not hurting people. I think it is true that Kid does what he can to keep people from being injured more than necessary to perform a trick. Maybe people are extrapolating from this? As Raifuujin pointed out, anyone who is a detective or police seems to be fair game up to a point.

This does seem like something the fandom would create, like the rumor about Shinichi not liking raisins.
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Postby kkslider5552000 » January 10th, 2014, 12:33 am

Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:This does seem like something the fandom would create, like the rumor about Shinichi not liking raisins.

...what?
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Re: No One Gets Hurt?

Postby Chekhov MacGuffin » January 10th, 2014, 1:04 am

kkslider5552000 wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:This does seem like something the fandom would create, like the rumor about Shinichi not liking raisins.

...what?
The raisins thing supposedly originated from a Detective Conan Special chapter. I can't confirm because none of them have been translated as far as I know.
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Re: No One Gets Hurt?

Postby mangaluva » January 10th, 2014, 1:16 pm

I thought being a caffeine fiend was the biggest fanon about Shinichi

Also I though something like this was said in Magic Kaito at some point, but maybe it is just fanon.
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Re: No One Gets Hurt?

Postby Iwamoto Yuri » January 10th, 2014, 3:47 pm

mangaluva wrote:I thought being a caffeine fiend was the biggest fanon about Shinichi

Also I though something like this was said in Magic Kaito at some point, but maybe it is just fanon.

Yeah, the coffee is definitely one of the fanon things.... Him liking a pot of strong coffee, which comes from the fact he drinks iced coffee every now and then. That and Kaito actively painting Hakuba's hair and pranking his classmates. While he does it once it's not seen regularly...
The no one gets hurt thing though, I think it's one of those fanon things as well, though it could be from the cat eye heist... Or even the blue ruby one?
The fact that he doesn't want to really hurt or kill, however, is clear enough. That is, if you don't count the taser moment, but keep in mind he only does it to Conan who has the highest risk factor in his eyes.
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Re: No One Gets Hurt?

Postby mangaluva » January 11th, 2014, 1:34 pm

I still think it was pretty severely OOC for him to taze Conan. You're really seriously not supposed to use those on children. The voltage can kill them.
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Re: No One Gets Hurt?

Postby Shiromi » January 11th, 2014, 3:48 pm

That could just be a product of faulty/nonexistent research though, like the Twilight Palace case, where Marijuana supposedly made a group of people into rabid killers. Tazers are often used in fiction as a quick knockout plot device, so the fact that it's potentially deadly, especially for children, probably didn't occur to them.
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Re: No One Gets Hurt?

Postby bluekaitou1412 » May 2nd, 2014, 10:06 am

mangaluva wrote:I still think it was pretty severely OOC for him to taze Conan. You're really seriously not supposed to use those on children. The voltage can kill them.
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Re: No One Gets Hurt?

Postby skyechan » October 9th, 2014, 8:41 pm

Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
kkslider5552000 wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:This does seem like something the fandom would create, like the rumor about Shinichi not liking raisins.

...what?
The raisins thing supposedly originated from a Detective Conan Special chapter. I can't confirm because none of them have been translated as far as I know.


I can confirm. Conan's dislike of raisins is in Special Volume 2's end chapter "The Melancholy of the Great Detective".
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Re: No One Gets Hurt?

Postby Kamite » October 10th, 2014, 4:50 am

The closest thing I found of Kid not killing or hurting anyone is refer in Case Closed Volume 46 file 8, panel 3, 3rd quote. Conan: I dunno supposedly he never kills.
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Re: No One Gets Hurt?

Postby Jecka » October 10th, 2014, 6:32 am

Kamite wrote:The closest thing I found of Kid not killing or hurting anyone is refer in Case Closed Volume 46 file 8, panel 3, 3rd quote.

It's the second page btw (it wasn't specified so to make it easier :V)
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Re: No One Gets Hurt?

Postby MrDetective » October 10th, 2014, 9:24 am

Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:I'm far from the best read about Kid, but I second Raifuujin's opinion about not remembering any motto about not hurting people. I think it is true that Kid does what he can to keep people from being injured more than necessary to perform a trick. Maybe people are extrapolating from this? As Raifuujin pointed out, anyone who is a detective or police seems to be fair game up to a point.

This does seem like something the fandom would create, like the rumor about Shinichi not liking raisins.



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Re: No One Gets Hurt?

Postby Jecka » October 10th, 2014, 11:16 am

MrDetective wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:I'm far from the best read about Kid, but I second Raifuujin's opinion about not remembering any motto about not hurting people. I think it is true that Kid does what he can to keep people from being injured more than necessary to perform a trick. Maybe people are extrapolating from this? As Raifuujin pointed out, anyone who is a detective or police seems to be fair game up to a point.

This does seem like something the fandom would create, like the rumor about Shinichi not liking raisins.



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