Kaitou-Shinichi long lost twins???

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ccppfan wrote: Actually it wouldn't make sense if Conan was the B, or even A, blood type. The doctor said that there wasn't enough of Conan's blood type, so Ran had to give him some. If Conan was the A or B (or even AB) blood type, it wouldn't matter since they could have given him O type blood. But as that happened I still say that Conan has the O blood type. *secretly wishes it were true XD*
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In that footage of Mizunashi Rena we saw on that tape, there was a nurse shouting that they "didn't have enough AB blood," so Rena offered some. That doesn't make sense, since AB can't give to anyone but AB, and if they had an AB patient they could have given him any other type. Either the hospital was completely out of blood, something was going on with Rh antigens, or Gosho thought giving us Rena's blood type was more important than being strictly realistic. I can see him ignoring the fact that the hospital probably wouldn't be out of A and O blood in order to let us know Ran suspected Conan of being Shinichi in Desperate Revival.  ;)
Edit: That line about needing blood was in the manga, wasn't it? I think I remember it, but it could have been an anime change.  :P
The general transfusion practice is to try to match the blood type of the donor and the receiver before resorting to using a different compatible type. AB is the rarest of the four types so it makes sense to have lower amounts of it is stock. Also when transfusing blood plasma, the compatibilities are reversed. AB is the universal blood plasma donor while O is the universal plasma receiver.
I see. I didn't know either of those things. (I've never been involved in a transfusion.) Never mind, then.  :)
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
pofa wrote:
ccppfan wrote: Actually it wouldn't make sense if Conan was the B, or even A, blood type. The doctor said that there wasn't enough of Conan's blood type, so Ran had to give him some. If Conan was the A or B (or even AB) blood type, it wouldn't matter since they could have given him O type blood. But as that happened I still say that Conan has the O blood type. *secretly wishes it were true XD*
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In that footage of Mizunashi Rena we saw on that tape, there was a nurse shouting that they "didn't have enough AB blood," so Rena offered some. That doesn't make sense, since AB can't give to anyone but AB, and if they had an AB patient they could have given him any other type. Either the hospital was completely out of blood, something was going on with Rh antigens, or Gosho thought giving us Rena's blood type was more important than being strictly realistic. I can see him ignoring the fact that the hospital probably wouldn't be out of A and O blood in order to let us know Ran suspected Conan of being Shinichi in Desperate Revival.  ;)
Edit: That line about needing blood was in the manga, wasn't it? I think I remember it, but it could have been an anime change.  :P
The general transfusion practice is to try to match the blood type of the donor and the receiver before resorting to using a different compatible type. AB is the rarest of the four types so it makes sense to have lower amounts of it is stock. Also when transfusing blood plasma, the compatibilities are reversed. AB is the universal blood plasma donor while O is the universal plasma receiver.
Isn't there also a difference between + and - blood, like there is both b+ and b-, same goes for the other types. And negative is more rare than positive. Negative can give to positive but not the opposite, otherwise it's as already stated. At least I remember it that way from my biology lessons.
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nomemory wrote: Isn't there also a difference between + and - blood, like there is both b+ and b-, same goes for the other types. And negative is more rare than positive. Negative can give to positive but not the opposite, otherwise it's as already stated. At least I remember it that way from my biology lessons.
That's right. It's called the rhesus factor. Asians especially, but also Africans,and Native Americans are almost universally rhesus positive. Rhesus negative people are more common in Europe.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: Also when transfusing blood plasma, the compatibilities are reversed. AB is the universal blood plasma donor while O is the universal plasma receiver.
Why is that / where did you hear it? I mean, not saying you're wrong, but I just don't see why that would be the case.

edit: Well after snooping around it seems that's correct, but I'm still unsure as to why that would be the case. Pretty weird imo.
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I really doubt that Shinichi and Kaito could be twins, and maybe Yuusaku and Toichi look like the same person, they aren't, I really doubt that Yuusaku could change his moustache everytime he needs. And it couldn't be twins either 'cuz, as we know last name of Yuusaku is Kudo and last name of Toichi is Kuroba, and there's also the proff that, when Yuukiko went to L.A to learn disguise techniques, and after get married with Yuusaku, she would know about "his hunsband's brother".

Well, that's my opinion...

And also I think is IMPOSSIBLE that Yuusake fake his dead (if he were Toichi) and then he just forgot about them. Yuusaku is not that kind of person.

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KaitoGirl95 wrote: I really doubt that Shinichi and Kaito could be twins, and maybe Yuusaku and Toichi look like the same person, they aren't, I really doubt that Yuusaku could change his moustache everytime he needs. And it couldn't be twins either 'cuz, as we know last name of Yuusaku is Kudo and last name of Toichi is Kuroba, and there's also the proff that, when Yuukiko went to L.A to learn disguise techniques, and after get married with Yuusaku, she would know about "his hunsband's brother".

Well, that's my opinion...

And also I think is IMPOSSIBLE that Yuusake fake his dead (if he were Toichi) and then he just forgot about them. Yuusaku is not that kind of person.

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It's not even a theory. It's nonsense.
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There is no evidence in anime or manga to support a blood relationship of any kind between Shinichi and Kaito or Toichi and Yuusaku. It's just wishful thinking based on the fact that they strongly resemble each other. (And I resemble my best friend from Primary School so much that our teachers used to call us by each others' names, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm about as closely related to her as I am to the Queen.)
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bluekaitou1412 wrote: Why? Because you have type O?
Yeah. XD
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: AB is the universal blood plasma donor while O is the universal plasma receiver.
Nope, it's the other way round. We went through that in class last month. :P
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ccppfan wrote: Yeah. XD
Cool! I also wish I have type O, but I have A.
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ccppfan wrote:
bluekaitou1412 wrote: Why? Because you have type O?
Yeah. XD
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: AB is the universal blood plasma donor while O is the universal plasma receiver.
Nope, it's the other way round. We went through that in class last month. :P
You're not talking about blood are you? Blood and plasma are different things. Even though I'm not sure wheter donating differs between plasma and blood for sure.

Edit: Talking about bloodgroups, according to a test made in school biology I'm B negative but I'm not to sure abut that since it's so rare. I do know for sure that I can't be AB since my mom's 0.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: AB is the universal blood plasma donor while O is the universal plasma receiver.
ccppfan wrote: Nope, it's the other way round. We went through that in class last month. :P
Nope, I'm definitely right. It's because antibodies against these blood antigens are found in blood plasma. AB+ which has all the antigens and thus no antibodies to them, has safe-for-pretty-much-everyone* plamsa. O- types which could potentially have anti-A, anti-B, and anti-rhesus factor antibodies, could only be given to another O- person because the antibodies could attack the recipient's blood.
*"pretty much everyone" does not include rare bloodtypes which are not ABO±
nomemory wrote: Edit: Talking about bloodgroups, according to a test made in school biology I'm B negative but I'm not to sure abut that since it's so rare. I do know for sure that I can't be AB since my mom's 0.
You should find out for sure since B- is rare anywhere. You never know when you will get into an accident and need blood on an emergency basis after all (or give it to someone else for that matter). If your parents don't know, you can check your birth certificate, or if it isn't there, donate blood somewhere and they will tell you. Finding out your bloodtype no matter how common or rare is good advice for anyone reading this comment.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
nomemory wrote: Edit: Talking about bloodgroups, according to a test made in school biology I'm B negative but I'm not to sure abut that since it's so rare. I do know for sure that I can't be AB since my mom's 0.
You should find out for sure since B- is rare anywhere. You never know when you will get into an accident and need blood on an emergency basis after all. If your parents don't know, you can check your birth certificate, or if it isn't there, donate blood somewhere and they will tell you. Finding out your bloodtype no matter how common or rare is good advice for anyone reading this comment.
It isn't there and I can't donate since it's so hard for the nurses to find my veins, but I really want to donate. I usually go there once a year to see if things have changed, speaking of that it's time to go soon.
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nomemory wrote: It isn't there and I can't donate since it's so hard for the nurses to find my veins, but I really want to donate. I usually go there once a year to see if things have changed, speaking of that it's time to go soon.
Maybe then you should go to a real clinic
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Kor wrote: Maybe then you should go to a real clinic
Removing the strikes was a good thing. *cough* Anyway. That's what I think too. What the hell kind of nurse can't find someone's veins? O__o;;
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