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Re: Spoiler picture of 677

Postby TheBlind » January 8th, 2009, 1:18 pm

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GinRei wrote:Yeah, that seems to be the case.  It makes sense, if you think about it.

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She calls him Shuu, not Shuuichi, Shuu-kun, etc.  That's rather personal by Japanese standards.



I thought so..but was hoping otherwise.
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The Akai and Jodie being in a relationship just doesn't feel right to me. Gosho is heading down the path of "perfect anime world" where opposite sex individuals that have good chemistry must be in a relationship or start one. It also now brings the "Ran" factor into the Akai situation were Jodie will go through the phases thinking of Akai(aka missing him..Sonoko/Ran) and if he proves to be alive we will now be getting love shoved down our throats. Kazuha/Heiji-Satou/Takagi-Ran/Shinichi-Sonoko/Makoto...seriously with this new pairing the only break we'll get from the love couples will be in "The Detective boys" cases.

And please don't let the "love sensor" make a return if indeed this Akai admits to being Akai. It overstayed it's welcome in The Return


I couldn't agree more.

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and actually, I never felt anything more than a brother-sister relationship between those two. I accepted Jodie's "Shuu" because she's American. Seriously, if Jodie and Akai make a pair, then with whom will Camel and James end? Oh wait, maybe the boss of the BO is an elderly woman and James is in love with her, that's why he's chasing after the BO of course! Then his name makes sense too. And Camel will end up with ... with ... ah, Shiho doesn't have anybody yet, does she? Let's make them a pair too! XP Is there still someobody I missed? Gin has Vermouth, Wodka can go for that secretary in the case where Akai died (granted she's the BO agent who got stuck there), Bourbon ... erh ... he ... or she ... oh, he/she has a double personality and the male side of it is in love with the female side of it and vice versa, making him a narcissist! Agasa still has that woman from when he was young, thingy from the police, you know the rival of Takagi, can go for Yumi ... and I guess that's it? The others aren't that important, aside from the obvious pairings à la Chianti x Korn etc. :P



I didn't see Kir in there, so she could be paired with Camel...safely leaving Shiho out of this ;D.
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Well though the possibility of this are extremely low, hopefully this flashback(along with Black's comments) is something taken out of context to trick the reader. When we actually get the whole thing it may be revealed that it happened after Akemi's death and the other "woman" Akai is in love with is actually Gin ;D, similar to the sniping incident. This would safely stir away DC from couples island..and make Akai just more cool(is cool the right word? ;D).
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Re: Spoiler picture of 677

Postby Tenken » January 8th, 2009, 1:36 pm

Hey you don't have to wrap SPOILER like that, everyone who reads this thread should already understand it contains spoiler ;D

akai-kun wrote:the WE refers to Akemi... this is for sure, i think...
at first, he liked jodie, then he had to infiltrate the organization and a few days later, he really loved her and his feelings for jodie weren't so strong than his feelings for akemi...

so, he liked jodie, but loved akemi... and that's why he ended up the relationship between akemi and him because he didn't want her to die only because of him infiltrating the organization...



Thanks, you did clarify a chunk there :D

Are you sure about this, though?
Because looking at the flashback to Akai & Akemi in earlier volume, I don't think Akai had loved Akemi. At that point, I think, it was only Akemi who harbored true feelings for Akai, who was a little bit shocked to find out...

How about "To be able to love TWO WOMEN at the same time...?" ;D
Like TheBlind said, it could be "Gin" ("koibito") that he's referring to ;D but I'm not sure
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Re: Spoiler picture of 677

Postby Tenken » January 8th, 2009, 2:01 pm

Oh man, no! ....
I just checked the RAW file and found that Akai was referring to himself and Jodie, which means they had been in a relationship before:

Akai: "Dakara, omae to wa owari ni shite kure..." ("That's why I should end it with you")

Jodie: ". . . Nani mo watashi-tachi ga wakare nakute mo..."

Akai: "It's not an organization that you can destroy even if you sacrifice yourself.
Futari no onna o douji ni aiseru hodo... Sayou na shoubun ja nain de ne..."


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Put those lines in the context, they explain why Jodie looked sad and thought "Even so..."

Why Akai broke up with Jodie :

1/ he loved Akemi for real (but earlier chapters seemed to point to the opposite)

2/ he's afraid that his plan to infiltrate B.O. would be ruined had anyone found out his fake relationship with Akemi
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Re: Spoiler picture of 677

Postby Misztina » January 8th, 2009, 2:24 pm

Ah, dang! There goes the GinxAkai theory. :P  Finally... XD

Thanks for clearing up those lines, it makes more sense now. ^^
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Re: Spoiler picture of 677

Postby ohnoesmilk » January 8th, 2009, 2:28 pm

Misztina wrote:Ah, dang! There goes the GinxAkai theory. :P  Finally... XD

Thanks for clearing up those lines, it makes more sense now. ^^




Well, there's still that GinxVodka theory...

Also, it seems like that AkaixJodie thing came out of no where.
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Re: Spoiler picture of 677

Postby Misztina » January 8th, 2009, 2:40 pm

Well, Jodie was always fond of Akai, and she really cried much when heard about his death.
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Re: Spoiler picture of 677

Postby ohnoesmilk » January 8th, 2009, 2:42 pm

Misztina wrote:Well, Jodie was always fond of Akai, and she really cried much when heard about his death.
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HAHAHA OMG

I knew she was fond of Akai, but I didn't think Akai actually liked her or they had something or something. Hmmm.
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