Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,058-1,060

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What would be interesting to see (but probably unlikely) would be Yusaku/Conan and Kid realising they share a common enemy, or Kid mentioning something crucial about the BO.
A more realistic expectation could be that Conan realises something from Kid's method of disguise which points him towards Rum/ one of the three Rum candidates who is possibly in disguise
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Unlucky Devil wrote:
August 13th, 2020, 7:46 pm
What would be interesting to see (but probably unlikely) would be Yusaku/Conan and Kid realising they share a common enemy, or Kid mentioning something crucial about the BO.
A more realistic expectation could be that Conan realises something from Kid's method of disguise which points him towards Rum/ one of the three Rum candidates who is possibly in disguise
no. its kid. tge flirting, the unique smirk , the lack of detective knowledge , unique expressions and shock after culprit revelation. its definitely kid.
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Vaib, you misunderstood what unlucky devil wanted to say. He is not denying about the kid in disguise.
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Locked room murder trick deduction v.2 (File 1059)
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well read some of the spoiler pics on file 1059... on the last page when Conan revealed the culprit Kid who was disguised as Yusaku appeared a bit surprised... well Kid did notice some strange points from the crime scene and we know Kid certainly isn't stupid, so it may imply that Kid may have deducted the case a bit differently from Conan which was why he seemed a bit surprised when Conan revealed the culprit... it would be interesting to see how the case actually turns out. ;D

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vaibhavgupte wrote:
August 14th, 2020, 5:21 am
Unlucky Devil wrote:
August 13th, 2020, 7:46 pm
What would be interesting to see (but probably unlikely) would be Yusaku/Conan and Kid realising they share a common enemy, or Kid mentioning something crucial about the BO.
A more realistic expectation could be that Conan realises something from Kid's method of disguise which points him towards Rum/ one of the three Rum candidates who is possibly in disguise
no. its kid. tge flirting, the unique smirk , the lack of detective knowledge , unique expressions and shock after culprit revelation. its definitely kid.
Haha, Vaibhav, no I'm not saying it isn't Kid.
It very much is him. All I'm saying is it'd be fun for Kid and Conan to exchange notes on their common enemy.
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Based on the most recent reported spoilers, it looks like vol 100 really will have a major event.
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gin, vodka, vermouth, akai , yusaku in spoiler pics. jodie and camel also present in chapter. but not in spoiler pics
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Finally some fireworks.
Lets hope we wont get another 3 month break before it continues.
[ ] Yonehara = Rum
[ ] Kuroda = Amuros Boss
[x] MG = Mrs. Akai
[x] Haneda = Brother Akai
[ ] Rumi = Asaka
[ ] Wakita = Bo-Member Whiskey (aka the RAT)
[ ] Iori = just a butler
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Apparently it's a 6 weeks break.
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dccd wrote:
August 21st, 2020, 8:07 am
Finally some fireworks.
Lets hope we wont get another 3 month break before it continues.
Well...
Kor wrote:
August 21st, 2020, 8:20 am
Apparently it's a 6 weeks break.
It seems the break pattern we've had since the Karasuma reveal will keep going, and with Goshō's health how it is, I don't see that changing.

Specifically, in the three spoiler pics we've got, we have two of them showing Vermouth (her clothes imply she was the one watching Shinichi/Conan and Yukiko in 1,058, not Kid) striding up to Gin and Vodka in the Porsche, and Gin says, "You’re late, aren’t you..."

And in the other, we see both Shūichi with an earpiece and a smiling Yusaku looking at a dumbfounded Shinichi/Conan.

And courtesy of Fujiwara, here's are some Chinese spoiler summaries:
"FBI is stationed in the Kudou house, Conan is dumbfounded, afterwards Yuusaku and Akai say “The BO is going to make a big move”

Some asks: is James there?
Leaker: I didn’t see him. But I saw Jodie and red vodka (probably Camel?) and a couple of unknown FBI peeps
Q: where is Kid?
Leaker: [not sure about this one, something about Megure speaking and Kid being in Shibuya idek ]

Also, Yuukiko and Yuusaku weren’t poisoned, they realized that something was wrong with the food from the start.
Yuukiko whispers to Conan: “after all, shin-chan seems to be vermouth’s favorite”"
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Long since I wrote here :) Just saw the new spoilers from 1060. Did anybody notice that Vermoth is wearing the same shirt as Yusaku? :O
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Mrshudson75 wrote:
August 21st, 2020, 1:12 pm
Long since I wrote here :) Just saw the new spoilers from 1060. Did anybody notice that Vermoth is wearing the same shirt as Yusaku? :O
Her shirt has stripes—neither of the Yusakus did, so it seems she just changed outfits for the meeting with Gin and Vodka.

And recall Page 6 of File 1,058. These spoiler pics confirm that Vermouth was indeed that shadow figure.

That aside, full spoiler pics are now out (not just individual panels)—the last 6 pages of 1,060, specifically.

And here are translations, courtesy of Night Baron:
Page 11
Megure mentions that Kid was sighted in Shibuya at the same time, and Conan realizes that "Yusaku" is not Kid.

Page 12
Gin: Took you long enough...
Gin: Vermouth!!
Vermouth: Sorry...
Vermouth: I was doing some minor business that Rum ordered me to do...
Vermouth: A person that might become a threat to the organization was staying in Japan for some reason this night, so he wanted me to investigate that...

Page 13
Vodka: And how did... 
Vodka: ...that go? 
Vermouth: It was such a letdown... I can destroy them any time I want...
Gin: You won’t kill them?
Vermouth: Yeah...
Vermouth: For now...
Vermouth: But when it’s necessary...
Vermouth: I will at any time...
Conan: Oi?!
Conan: This is not the time for sleeping!!
Conan: There’s a high chance Vermouth was here...
Conan: ...until a while ago!!
Conan: She might as well...
Conan: ...be the reason behind your sickness...

Page 14
Conan: A...
Conan: ...Akai-san?!
Conan: And Dad and Mom too...?!
Conan: Why?!
Akai: Jodie, Camel...
Akai: How’s the situation?

Page 15
Jodie: Nothing like a listening device or a hidden camera in the study as it seems...
Camel: The other rooms as well are clear!
Jodie: As expected of a Plan devised by a best-selling author!
Camel: Looks like they were completely fooled!
Akai: We still can’t let our guard down...
Conan: F-fooled..?
Yukiko: When I told Yusaku that we’re being monitored by someone, he told me, let’s act conspicuously and see how will they act...
Yusaku: ...and right after that we saw a suspicious leaflet for an Italian restaurant in the mailbox, we went there...
Yusaku: ...and sure enough the taste of the food was off, so when I checked it up afterwards, I found out that Distigmine bromide was mixed with it...
Conan: Then you didn’t eat, right?
Yukiko: Yeah... we just pretended to eat it and put in my bag, and thanks to that my favorite bag became sloppy...
Yusaku: When Distigmine bromide is ingested, it’s followed by symptoms similar to the ones of food poisoning...
Yusaku: Which are : nausea•( can’t make out the kanji for this one )•stomach ache, diarrhea•sweating...
Yusaku: So I feigned said symptoms, enticed their comrade...
Yusaku: to show them that we are utterly unguarded and have nothing suspicious whatsoever!
Conan: If that’s the case you could’ve just told me beforehand...

Page 16
Yusaku: To fool your enemy, you must first fool your friends!
Conan: .....
Yukiko: Plus, you’re Sharon’s favorite Shin-chan as it seems...
Akai: We managed to prevent this place from getting attacked by them for now...
Yusaku: Yeah, all that’s left is to get prepared...
Yusaku: For their big move...

Sidenote: The opening act is over. The show begins now.
“Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent. We would not dare to conceive the things which are really mere commonplaces of existence. If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chains of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outre results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable.”
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DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
August 21st, 2020, 9:19 pm
Sidenote: The opening act is over. The show begins now.
Oh boy...
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Yusaku: Yeah, all that’s left is to get prepared...
Yusaku: For their big move...

Sidenote: The opening act is over. The show begins now.
Not to be pessimistic, but I sure hope the show will truly begin next case and not in 40 chapters :-X


As for how the events seemingly transpired... eh... it's kinda stupid, honestly. Not the Vermouth pretending to be Kid pretending to be Yusaku, I can live with that, I guess. But Yusaku foreseeing the entire food poisoning plot and going along with it is just a weird story to tell. And Conan, the protagonist, ended up being excluded from a BO plot.
I hope the next BO thing will be a bit more thought out cause this ended up feeling rather random.
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