Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,043-1,046

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The first Shōnen Sunday teaser of 1,043 is now out—here's the translation, courtesy of Manaphy:
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Sorry I made you wait! The new series begins!

Haneda Kōji was the son of a wealthy and distinguished family. While Conan is trying to search for information about the "Haneda family," in what case will he be involved next?
After a long time, "a certain person" appears!
We can expect spoiler pics/summaries by the end of this week.
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Hmmph... well that person who did not appear for a long time better be Mary. ::)
"one should stick with one's original plan" (初志貫徹 shoshi kantetsu) ;)
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blackmoon wrote:
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Hmmph... well that person who did not appear for a long time better be Mary. ::)
Mary appeared 4 chapters ago.
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Maybe Vermouth?
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Damn... i was thinking about the evil twin sister of Mary ;D
Better yet... it better be Gin instead :P
Can't wait for more detail reveals about the 24th movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSrpPuBnKGA
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Spoilers had already dropped.
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And no shit Sherlock, it's Shukichi and Yumi.
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And here's a summary of 1,043, courtesy of Sakaki:
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The kids are talking about soccer, and Conan's not amused because he wants to investigate the Haneda family. He's looking up the news on his smartphone and sees that there's been match fixing in shogi games and even worse a body found so the games have been suspended as investigations are ongoing and the police have no leads.
The only thing left with the body was a shogi table with one leg and he can't figure out what that means. Ayumi asks about what "fixing" means and there's a discussion about where the word came from. (Haibara thinks it's Sumo.) but then Chūkichi shows up and says it's from Igo (Or Go, like from Hikaru).
Chūkichi knew the guy who got killed, since he played him once and he used an unusual move. Ayumi figures out he's on a date with Yumi because he's not wearing his kimono and he's clean shaven. He says it's not a date, but he's off to meet someone important. He leaves and then a lady who's obviously not Yumi (it is Yumi) is obviously not stalking him. (she is.) Genta asks if they're fighting or something and she says they aren't, but he's been acting funny so she's trailing him. (As in he's been going out secretly more often.)
Yumi thinks she's just being overly worried but Haibara says it's likely he's cheating, lol.
She then doubles down on ~~stalking~~ trailing him and drags Conan in to help against his will. Conan asks her if she's ever met his parents, and she says no --but she's heard he lived with a rich family who had a son who was a shogi genius up until he died in an accident. (Kōji Haneda) Chūkichi inherited his dream to be the best at shogi and here we are.

Chūkichi goes to "star donuts" which is a place Yumi introduced him to so now she thinks he's shopping there for her....until he talks to some girls out front. She gets pissed and reveals herself (And I should add the girls refer to her as his girlfriend and she doesn't deny it.)
Turns out he's running a shogi practice group for these girls. One girl: Mana Katsumata is the daughter of the current shogi senior player Chikara Katsumata. The other girl is Shoko Uriyuu. They both have interest in learning shogi from Chūkichi.
Another dude is there: Kōsuke Hishinuma and he has instant coffee which everyone agrees tastes nasty cause it's kinda lukewarm now.
They head in to meet the other person there Genda, and you guessed it, he be dead. Conan notices that the shogi table there only has two legs and wonders if this is connected to the case he read in the news.
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Chances are that after all Chikara is somehow connected to the main plot. Otherwise, I don't see a single reason for Gosho to introduce his daughter. I hope that Chikara actually will show up, and quite sooner rather than on the last page of the last chapter of this case...
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Nemomon wrote:
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Chances are that after all Chikara is somehow connected to the main plot. Otherwise, I don't see a single reason for Gosho to introduce his daughter. I hope that Chikara actually will show up, and quite sooner rather than on the last page of the last chapter of this case...
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his daughter is a generic-looking case character.... I don't see why having a blood relationship with an irrelevant case character makes him possibly connected to the main plot ???
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Bourbon:''A child's curiosity and a detective's spirit of inquiry do have much in common''
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Vermouth:''A secret makes a woman, woman''
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Mary/Gin:''It's like encountering a demon in the darkness...''
Image
Akai Shuichi:''Fear of death is worse than death itself''
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Shinichi Kudo:''following the smell of blood to arrive upon a crime scene, using every one of your senses to hunt the culprit, then once you've seized hold of him, sinking your sharp teeth(your evidence) until your opponent gives up the ghost, That's a detective''
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Nemomon wrote:
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Chances are that after all Chikara is somehow connected to the main plot. Otherwise, I don't see a single reason for Gosho to introduce his daughter. I hope that Chikara actually will show up, and quite sooner rather than on the last page of the last chapter of this case...
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Well, you know how Gosho loves his end of case stingers... though whether it'll be Chikara or someone else is an open question.

At this point, I hope he'll be revealed to have at least some involvement with the Kōji case—anything beyond that is also an open question.
MeiTanteixX wrote:
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his daughter is a generic-looking case character.... I don't see why having a blood relationship with an irrelevant case character makes him possibly connected to the main plot ???
Spoiler:
It's not her design. It's the fact that his name's come up yet again, in the context of Shūkichi/shogi.
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Well for starters, Katsumata can give some info about Kohji and his whereabouts which might be useful to find Rum.
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Zerozaki4869 wrote:
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Well for starters, Katsumata can give some info about Kohji and his whereabouts which might be useful to find Rum.
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Chikara would've been in his late 30s/early 40s at the time of the Kōji case. Who knows? Maybe he was there. Even if not, he may have heard from those who were at that hotel.
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MeiTanteixX wrote:
Nemomon wrote:
Spoiler:
Chances are that after all Chikara is somehow connected to the main plot. Otherwise, I don't see a single reason for Gosho to introduce his daughter. I hope that Chikara actually will show up, and quite sooner rather than on the last page of the last chapter of this case...
Spoiler:
his daughter is a generic-looking case character.... I don't see why having a blood relationship with an irrelevant case character makes him possibly connected to the main plot ???
Spoiler:
The hope dies last, isn't it? ;)

But with so many surnames out there, why would Gosho chose this one? So far Chikara was a minor character, and so far he shared the same fate as Araide. If Gosho still remembers him and uses his daughter to lure him to the murder scene, then maybe he indeed is an important character? Especially that recently we can feel that Gosho is rushing with the plot, and therefore he wouldn't waste his time introducing a character that has no connections to the plot.

Also, This daughter has a father that's a shogi master. Why would she train under Chuu if she could do that under her own father? Certainly there is a reason of why is she here instead of another NO_NAME character. Maybe like others have said, maybe Chikara could share some info about Kouji, but it would be strange for him to be involved in a murder care, so Gosho used his daughter.

Though it will be funny if it will turn out that she's the murderer. Who knows, maybe if not Rum he's a yet another code named BO executive, and he will use his powers to free her? And then Conan will meet a yet another member that he will be able to gather some info from. Very unlikely, but not totally unlikely ;).
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Nemomon wrote:
MeiTanteixX wrote:
Nemomon wrote:
Spoiler:
Chances are that after all Chikara is somehow connected to the main plot. Otherwise, I don't see a single reason for Gosho to introduce his daughter. I hope that Chikara actually will show up, and quite sooner rather than on the last page of the last chapter of this case...
Spoiler:
his daughter is a generic-looking case character.... I don't see why having a blood relationship with an irrelevant case character makes him possibly connected to the main plot ???
Spoiler:
The hope dies last, isn't it? ;)

But with so many surnames out there, why would Gosho chose this one? So far Chikara was a minor character, and so far he shared the same fate as Araide. If Gosho still remembers him and uses his daughter to lure him to the murder scene, then maybe he indeed is an important character? Especially that recently we can feel that Gosho is rushing with the plot, and therefore he wouldn't waste his time introducing a character that has no connections to the plot.

Also, This daughter has a father that's a shogi master. Why would she train under Chuu if she could do that under her own father? Certainly there is a reason of why is she here instead of another NO_NAME character. Maybe like others have said, maybe Chikara could share some info about Kouji, but it would be strange for him to be involved in a murder care, so Gosho used his daughter.

Though it will be funny if it will turn out that she's the murderer. Who knows, maybe if not Rum he's a yet another code named BO executive, and he will use his powers to free her? And then Conan will meet a yet another member that he will be able to gather some info from. Very unlikely, but not totally unlikely ;).
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I wouldn't rule out that possibility, either.

But yes, I would also prefer for Chikara to be an at least somewhat key player—be it a BO member (Rum or otherwise), or a person with information that helps out Shinichi/Conan.
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DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
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But yes, I would also prefer for Chikara to be an at least somewhat key player—be it a BO member (Rum or otherwise), or a person with information that helps out Shinichi/Conan.
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It would be a huge waste of a good character if he wouldn't be used for anything plot related. He's rich, quite old and with many connections, and connected to Kouji.
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