Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,009–1,012

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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,009–1,0XX

Postby MoonRaven » April 18th, 2018, 8:14 am

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I think there is some sort of collaboration between either the butler and the "dead bunny" or then butler and the "frowny bunny". True target is the client and the bunny a decoy.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,009–1,0XX

Postby mtcc » April 18th, 2018, 1:19 pm

Sana Murakami could b Minami Asakura hint Adachi call 1009 P14
or if Gosho want to change the name a little bit Nami Asakura
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,009–1,0XX

Postby jimmy_kud0_tv2 » April 18th, 2018, 7:44 pm

mtcc wrote:Sana Murakami could be Minami Asakura hint Adachi call 1009 P14
or if Gosho want to change the name a little bit Nami Asakura


This is just likely Gosho playing the name game again. He likes naming the suspects/victims after random things
for example in a previous case a while back all of the suspects had names based on condiments.

I think this time he just based the names on Adachi-sensei's "Touch" baseball manga
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,009–1,0XX

Postby Adel34 » April 20th, 2018, 5:48 pm

I don't have an opinion on the actual case, but I do have one worry...

Spoiler:
The butt grabbing scene is most definitely going to be censored in the anime.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,009–1,0XX

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » April 20th, 2018, 11:45 pm

File 1,011 Spoiler Pics are now out.

Spoiler:
We finally see Elena's eyes.

And is that Akemi in the flashback?

And that man with Elena... is that Atsushi?

EDIT:
Yep, these are the Miyanos—and at a time when Elena was pregnant with Shiho.


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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,009–1,0XX

Postby Jecka » April 21st, 2018, 7:15 am

The case is ending in 1012 and the editors "promise to reveal why Amuro and Akai are fighting next issue".
Take it with a grain of salt.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,009–1,0XX

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » April 21st, 2018, 11:44 am

Here are the text spoilers:

Spoiler:
From Jecka and Baka:
Amuro is looking on his phone and the message from Rum. A flashback reveals Atsushi and Elena's faces. Scene is shown where Akemi drags Amuro into a clinic (of her parents probably), calling him an injured person. Amuro doesn’t want to, but Elena tells him that he is still bleeding, she hints that Amuro was here before. He is saying that he has been bullied because everyone thinks that he is a foreign. Meanwhile Elena tells Atsushi that she is pregnant again. Flashback was triggered by the Sana Bunny talking on the phone with her dad.
The case has not been solved, so longer than 3 chapters. Series continues on May 9th (Golden Week Break next week). Also sidenote says that they will reveal in the next issue why Amuro and Akai are fighting.

From bash:
Atsushi says his research can be funded by the 'Karasuma Group', but there appear to be some negative rumours about that organisation floating around. Elena suggest that she can join the research team as well. Amuro got involved in a fight and injured because he's half-Japanese which is why Elena can identify with him. She tells him that on the inside everyone's human, as proven by the fact that regardless of skin colours, blood running through everyone's veins is always red. Side note says in the next chapter the case will be solved.

From Fujiwara:
Amuro gets a new text message from Rum: “Hurry up with that information about Kudou Shinichi! Time is money! —RUM—“
Also, Conan hears from Ran that she dropped her wallet earlier and Amuro picked it up.


Jecka wrote:The case is ending in 1012 and the editors "promise to reveal why Amuro and Akai are fighting next issue".
Take it with a grain of salt.


I think some are taking it with a bucket, already... even in the context of these past three cases and how, by DC standards, seismic the developments have been.

What do you see Gosho withholding, in terms of "why Amuro and Akai are fighting?"
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,009–1,0XX

Postby CrimsonGenius » April 22nd, 2018, 4:13 am

DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
Jecka wrote:The case is ending in 1012 and the editors "promise to reveal why Amuro and Akai are fighting next issue".
Take it with a grain of salt.


What do you see Gosho withholding, in terms of "why Amuro and Akai are fighting?"

Spoiler:
It's because He took away Akemi away from him, as well cornered Scotch to kill himself
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,009–1,0XX

Postby Jecka » April 22nd, 2018, 11:26 am

CrimsonGenius wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
Jecka wrote:The case is ending in 1012 and the editors "promise to reveal why Amuro and Akai are fighting next issue".
Take it with a grain of salt.


What do you see Gosho withholding, in terms of "why Amuro and Akai are fighting?"

Spoiler:
It's because He took away Akemi away from him, as well cornered Scotch to kill himself

Afaik Gosho already said that first thing is not the case. The rivalry is nothing related to that.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,009–1,0XX

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » April 22nd, 2018, 11:50 pm

Jecka wrote:
CrimsonGenius wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
Jecka wrote:The case is ending in 1012 and the editors "promise to reveal why Amuro and Akai are fighting next issue".
Take it with a grain of salt.


What do you see Gosho withholding, in terms of "why Amuro and Akai are fighting?"

Spoiler:
It's because He took away Akemi away from him, as well cornered Scotch to kill himself

Afaik Gosho already said that first thing is not the case. The rivalry is nothing related to that.


Yeah, I heard that, as well.

So, if Gosho's not withholding that, in terms of, "why Amuro and Akai are fighting?", then what is he withholding?
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,009–1,0XX

Postby passingthrough » April 24th, 2018, 10:38 pm

Spoiler:
maybe the bunny girl is Morooka's illegitimate child, and the butler tried to kill her because he's loyal to Morooka's late wife?
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,009–1,0XX

Postby blackmoon » April 25th, 2018, 4:15 am

Now that Elena was brought back to the story... I wonder how many people actually know what she was called and what other "speculators" consider her to be... found some interesting information\graphic analysis about her from this site:
https://www.detectiveconanworld.com/for ... n/?page=29
So... is there more about her than what was presented up to this point? 8-)
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,009–1,0XX

Postby CrimsonGenius » April 25th, 2018, 7:00 pm

blackmoon wrote:Now that Elena was brought back to the story... I wonder how many people actually know what she was called and what other "speculators" consider her to be... found some interesting information\graphic analysis about her from this site:
https://www.detectiveconanworld.com/for ... n/?page=29
So... is there more about her than what was presented up to this point? 8-)
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,009–1,0XX

Postby Nemomon » April 26th, 2018, 12:14 am

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Plus, if Vermouth is Elena, why would she be so obsessed about killing her own daughter. Even more, why would she give up that "dream"?

Also, Vernouth said that no angel ever smiled upon her, but yet she got two daughters. I hardly can say that she was unhappy having them (considering she left some tapes and all).
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,009–1,0XX

Postby passingthrough » April 27th, 2018, 1:44 pm

Spoiler:
I don't know if this makes sense, but the butler's excuse as to why he can't poison Yuri seems to only be his bad eyesight. Someone has mentioned that if his eyesight is that bad, then why check the mail without his glasses? I agree.
With Kogoro's remark on the magnifying glass, perhaps it's possible for the butler to target Yuri by seeing her nail wrap through the wine glass. Round glass filled with liquid can act as a magnifying lense. But I don't know what can be used as a proof, so maybe I'm wrong. I just have no idea how Morooka nor Sana can possibly poison Yuri.

On the other hand it seems that Conan realised Amuro picked up Ran's purse, so maybe he'll give a heads up to Akai that Amuro might break into the Kudos house. I'm wondering where Yusaku and Yukiko are staying?

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